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Texas professors want to use abortion ban to punish students for "consensual sexual intercourse"

“Along with their anger about abortion, they grouse about not being allowed to punish students “for being homosexual or transgender.” They also argue they should be able to penalize teaching assistants for “cross-dressing,” by which they appear to mean allowing trans women to wear skirts.”

makeasnek ,
@makeasnek@lemmy.ml avatar

Another great reason why we need good, anonymous currency and more privacy in society. Everything’s all fine and dandy till your bank or google maps rats you out.

xor ,

So… cash?

RizzRustbolt ,

Thumbnail looks like an establishing shot from a zombie movie.

radicalautonomy ,

Two. Two professors. Two are suing for their right to be shitheads. This needs to be clarified. It’s not a class action lawsuit or anything. The vast majority of profs I had at UT-Austin, if they are still teaching there, were almost certainly protesting Palestinian occupation along with the students.

(This being said and Texas being what it is, I am surprised it isn’t more than two. I can’t leave this state fast enough.)

unreasonabro ,

muricaaa

billiam0202 ,

I’m sure our current SCOTUS, which said that the right to bodily autonomy doesn’t exist because it wasn’t enumerated even though the Constitution clearly says not all rights are, will have no problem using the exact same reasoning to slap these two Texassholes down, right?

Right?

EatATaco ,

Even before the overturn of roe v wade the right to bodily autonomy, as you’re using the term, did not exist, as even roe v wade concluded that the state might have a compelling interest to restrict abortion in some cases. And most states had some kind of restriction in place.

And when the scotus overturned it, they didn’t remove the right to bodily autonomy, but the implicit right to privacy.

DrSleepless ,

Dudes that aren’t getting laid upset that other people are getting laid

solsangraal ,

the people who are maddest about gays are the ones who are secretly gay and hate themselves most of all. they only say “it’s a choice” because they made the choice to suppress it and are angry at anyone who chooses “to thine own self be true”

BubbleMonkey ,

How the fuck do these people think they are going to know an absence is for an abortion? Do they really think their female students are going to volunteer that information in fucking Texas of all places?

It’s pretty damned easy to say “I need time off for a medical procedure” and nothing else, because they aren’t allowed to ask what sort of medical care you are getting. They can ask for a doctors note I suppose but that’s pretty easy to get, and also doesn’t have reasons on it. Or they can say they have a wedding or funeral to attend or whatever.

Or do they think because it’s a woman it’s safe to just assume, as many medical professionals do, that everything medical is related to reproductive systems?

This whole thing is just really gross for no reason other than to be gross. They are just mad they aren’t sleeping with these women.

Although in fairness, I don’t think students should be held to attendance standards in college anyway, it’s a lazy grading metric for failure schools that admit shit students. As adults, students may have other things going on that they need to handle, and if they fail to do the work as a result that’s their problem. I only had a handful of classes that gave a shit about attendance, and I dropped the ones I could because I’m not a child and that’s stupid. (Discussion based courses maybe, but even then, it should be based on participation not attendance)

NABDad ,

If you are female and have to take time off for a medical procedure, they’ll just assume it’s an abortion and flunk you. After all, why are you in school anyway? You don’t need an education to clean house and have babies.

Anise OP ,

Agree. When I was in University professors took the stance that we are paying for this so if we want to skip what we are paying for, that’s our problem. We were adults and responsible for our own time management.

Most professors were researchers first and educators second so they didn’t really want to be there either…

partial_accumen ,

If the students disobey and miss class for abortion care, the filing continues, the professors should be allowed to flunk students.

…and…

The two men argue that granting students an excused absence in such cases violates their First Amendment rights.

And one of these guys is a philosophy professor.

morphballganon ,

There are plenty of philosophy professors who are morons.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Half of all philosophy professors graduated in the bottom 50% of their class. Pretty shocking.

Telorand ,

What’s crazy is he actually won some award from the Journal of Philosophy in the past. But brain rot comes quickly for people like him, who has himself been plugged into the right wing propaganda mill since at least 2016.

And one of his self-professed professional interests is “Christian Philosophy,” so this is totally on brand for him.

kaffiene ,

Source?

mPony ,

oh hon

www.statisticshowto.com/…/normal-distributions/

kaffiene ,

That would only make sense if all graduates become professors

mPony ,

they were making a joke, not a grant application

kaffiene ,

The joke doesn’t make sense like that. I’ve seen it before as “Since fifty percent of all doctors graduate in the bottom half of their class, should I trust them?” Which actually does work. You can just say he got the math wrong and you doubled down on it

Anise OP ,

For real. It really is a statement about the quality of that school of their philosophy professors can’t understand the non-agression principle, or bodily autonomy, or where one persons rights ends and the other’s begins… Apparently don’t send your kids to school in Texas.

MagicShel ,

I’m straight AF, but I’ll show up in a kilt (and go regimental to boot) any time my trans friends need an ally.

sangriaferret ,

Hell, I’ll show up in a silk negligee and edible panties. Wait, what are we talking about again?

MagicShel ,

Well I was talking about skirting the rules, but your idea has merit, too.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Skirting the rules by using a dress code. Excellent!

MagicShel ,

What sarong with that?

4am ,

I’ll join this Muumuuvement

hydroptic ,

Huge surprise that conservatives hate consensual sex.

They seem to be really focused on just punishing people

Telorand ,

The two rules of Conservatism:

  • I get to do what I want.
  • You have to do what I say.

The professors get to do what they want and flunk whomever they want. The students have to do what they say and only have sex on their religious terms.

hydroptic ,

That’s a perfect description of the conservative mindset.

It’s like when they crow about “freedom of speech”, which they invariably use to mean “our freedom to be bigoted against you”

Got_Bent ,

I knew a trans biology professor at UNT. Just looked her up and she’s still there but I wonder for how long

I looked her up on ratemyprofessor and while she’s not very popular, every comment is about lack of organization, none about gender. I am admittedly surprised

Reverendender ,

“It is a violation of my rights to not be able to interfere with the healthcare of my female students!” - These assholes, apparently

Anise OP ,

They think that first amendment rights mean that they get to be minor tyrants over their class? It is the right to speech, not the right to a fiefdom.

TubularTittyFrog ,

i wish someone would punish me for consexual sexual intercourse.

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

Don’t you mean “during”?

TubularTittyFrog ,

before, after, during. i’m a man of ambition.

acetanilide ,

Instead, Bonevac writes, because pregnancy is the result of “voluntary and consensual sexual intercourse,”

So apparently you can’t get pregnant when you’re raped. That’s great to know /s

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

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stevedidwhat_infosec ,

Let’s keep dismantling the education system and see if this fixes things

Chocrates ,

I am so sad that this is burned into my brain.

SeaJ ,

That fucker doubled down on that too admitting that he regretted his apology and stands by being a fucking dunce.

acetanilide ,

Wow. I wonder if he thinks that human vaginas have crazy twists and turns and dead ends in it like some other animals do

Telorand ,

Wait, they do? Damn, I’m always learning about how weird evolution is!

acetanilide ,

Yep! Ducks and pigs are the two I think of. I recommend using the keywords “reproductive system” and not trying to google duck/pig penis lol. You might get some images you don’t want to see. Or maybe you do want to see it, what do I know?

Humans on the other hand…pretty straight forward. Unless you are a “real Republican” in Texas, I guess.

NOT_RICK , (edited )
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not confident that dipshit could even point out a vagina in a police lineup.

Edit: he’s dead so he definitely can’t

acetanilide ,

Awww man, I missed the news of his funeral. How sad.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Unfortunately for him, his body didn’t have a way of shutting his prostate cancer down for him

Plague_Doctor ,

His must have been a legitimate cancer.

4am ,

He certainly was.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

That’s on him for consenting to prostate cancer /s

BrokenGlepnir ,

So the thing is, your body actually can do some things about cancer. It is just really spotty unfortunately. Humans bodies still have nothing for shutting down rape pregnancy though.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

From what I’ve read rape is actually more likely to result in a pregnancy than consensual sex. Ain’t that a kick in the teeth?

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

Good fucking riddance

InternetUser2012 ,

Karma bats 1000

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Gosh, I wonder what party he belongs to.

originalfrozenbanana ,

By this logic they should be perfectly fine with any sex that can’t lead to pregnancy, right?

Right?

Right?

givesomefucks ,

Religious extremists always use the “slippery slope” argument against progress, because that’s what they want.

If anyone ever tells you they have to do something because their religious texts says so, you need to immediately look at the craziest shit that’s in there.

Because either they’re lying about their reason for doing the first thing, or they’re working their way up to the craziest shit.

And regardless of what religion it is, there’s going to be some absolutely horrible shit in there.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

*except for The Satanic Temple and Pastafarianism.

freshcow ,

I love this take on religion.
Parallels with the “stupid or evil” assessment I always have to do for conservatives in general

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

Evil is always rooted in ignorance

Telorand ,

I disagree, simply by virtue of the fact that psychopaths exist. Morally motivated evil (aka harmful acts) I think is rooted in ignorance, and religiously motivated evil almost certainly is.

This is an example of that last one.

Five ,

My favorite slippery slope argument YT

Plague_Doctor ,

The Bible actually references abortion and priests giving them to women who their husbands believe were unfaithful. And how that was particularly okay to do. Idk seems to me these folks don’t read the Bible.

Bible verses, Numbers 5:11-28 www.biblestudytools.com/numbers/5.html

prole ,

Christians that aren’t sociopaths, who actually read the Bible (aka, actually comprehend it), typically don’t stay Christian very long.

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

you need to immediately look at the craziest shit that’s in there. Because either they’re lying about their reason for doing the first thing, or they’re working their way up to the craziest shit

I know a lot of people that will cite Leviticus to explain how homosexuality is bad, yet none of them like to talk about the parts of Leviticus that condone and regulate who you should enslave and how you should treat your slaves. 🤔

prole ,

Or not cutting the hair around your temples, or wearing clothing with mixed fabric or, I dunno, eating shrimp.

Dkarma ,

Texas: the incel state

Atelopus-zeteki ,
@Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run avatar

Right!?! Doesn't this smack of simple jealousy that the professors can't have as much fun as their students? Their lives must be so empty, which explains why others living their best lives, with lovers, friends, and community is so offensive.

satanmat ,

Sir, please pickup line 2, they said it was Texas calling, but I think it was Giliad just disgusting their voice…

mPony ,

*disguising

also, solid quip, that one.

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