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Trump floats idea of three-term presidency at NRA convention

Donald Trump flirted with the idea of being president for three terms – a clear violation of the US constitution – during a bombastic speech for the National Rifle Association in which he vowed to reverse gun safety measures green-lighted during the Biden administration.

“You know, FDR 16 years – almost 16 years – he was four terms. I don’t know, are we going to be considered three-term? Or two-term?” The ex-president and GOP presidential frontrunner said to the organization’s annual convention in Dallas, prompting some in the crowd to yell “three!” Politico reported.

Trump has floated a third term in past comments, even mentioning a prolonged presidency while campaigning in 2020. He has also tried distancing himself from this idea, telling Time magazine in April: “I wouldn’t be in favor of it at all. I intend to serve four years and do a great job.”

homesweethomeMrL ,

How appropriate.

gregorum , (edited )

The only time we elected a president more than twice, it was a Socialist, and he was so popular that we had to pass a law after he was elected a fourth time so it didn’t happen again.

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Ensign_Crab ,

The only time we elected a president 3 times, it was a Socialist

FDR was elected to four terms. He died 85 days into his fourth.

and he was so popular that we had to pass a law to keep him from being elected a fourth time.

The 22nd amendment wasn’t even drafted until after FDR was dead, and wasn’t ratified until 1951. And the language of the amendment specifically exempts the president at the time of ratification. The 22nd Amendment wouldn’t have stopped Truman from running again, let alone his predecessor.

gregorum ,

Oops, fixed!

andrewta ,

Lol someone down voted you for admitting a mistake and fixing it.

gregorum ,

You got downvoted too, lol.

People in Lemmy can be odd. I’ve noticed that, once in a while, I may pick up a stan. After a possibly terse exchange, I’ll see all comments/posts have, like, as single downvote for a few days.

Brunbrun6766 ,
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FDR was a Social Democrat not a Democratic Socialist. Similar but very different

Sunforged ,

FDR was not a socialist and the New Deal was a compromise from the existing capitalist power structure in order to harness and then diffuse the growing socialist energy in the country. It’s a huge reason the New Deal focused so much on highway expansion instead of public transportation.

brain_in_a_box ,

I know that the overton window has moved a long way to the right since then, but FDR was a long fucking way from being a socialist; a social democrat at best, but probably more accurate to say he was just what a capitalist was before the neoliberal turn.

DudeImMacGyver ,

The same guy who unilaterally banned bump stocks with an executive order being hosted by the NRA shows how much the NRA actually cares about the second amendment.

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

Bump stocks and all other focuses on rate of fire are more or less a sacrificial lamb. It provides a strong distinction between “Heh, stupid fucking loser thinking ‘assault rifles’ are actually a thing” and “semi-automatic versions of rifles specifically designed for and used by military forces”

When the reality is that basically every military strong discourages the use of full auto by anyone whose job is not to carry a machine gun of some form. But, because that AR-15 you bought at Walmart doesn’t have full auto, it isn’t a military weapon.

And because it is our god given right to carry an m249 everywhere we go, it is a horrible insult to the gun nuts of the world to lose their full auto capabilities so we should all feel warm and fuzzy and stop trying to stop kids from getting shot.

circuscritic , (edited )

That’s because full auto rifles*, are typically seen as wasting limited ammunition. A modern military unit isn’t likely to encounter a bunched together group of 30-50 soft targets where a full auto rifle would be most effective…unlike a mass shooter indiscriminately targeting a crowded concert.

*Rifles, not machine guns. I’m well aware of the utility of squad machine gunners, talking guns, etc.

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

First off: modern militaries DO get some nice mass executions a lot more often than one would expect. Well worth doing some reading up on that.

Second: Automatic fire is still horrible for that. If your bullets have a high degree of penetration then you are, generally mortally, wounding multiple civilians per shot and are better at aimed shots at clusters of women and children. Or your bullets don’t have a high degree of penetration and you mostly just light up one or two kindergartners whose corpses take up most of the shots. At which point you are, again, better off at firing off a bunch of snap shots.

Third: The actual reason militaries have automatic weapons is for situations where aiming is difficult or less important. Machine gunners at the squad level are expected to fire very short controlled bursts (otpimally single shots) to actually suppress a target when trying to “keep some heads down” so that the maneuver group can flank. Or they are engaging at significantly longer ranges (which is why machine guns often have a larger caliber round than the rifles) where a short burst increases the likelihood of hitting a target. And while it is mostly out of favor, many infantry rifles had burst fire capability or even simultaneous fire capability (either with two barrels or a ridiculously high rate of fire burst) to increase the likelihood of infantry hitting a target by spending more on ammo than training (before realizing it significantly increases the cost of the weapons AND requires more training so that the high schoolers can maintain their weapons in the field). But modern optics, and a decade or two of being the only people with NVGs, rendered that obsolete.

Beetlejuice001 ,

This guy massacres

DudeImMacGyver ,

Yeah bullshit, these assholes don’t give a fuck about your rights or mine, they care about their power, money, and influence.

barsquid ,

Are you claiming the “take the guns first” guy isn’t a strong 2A supporter? Say it isn’t so!

goferking0 ,

Amazing how little Republicans care when the person saying that has an R next to their name

HootinNHollerin ,

Lock him the fuck up already

Theprogressivist ,
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“If the Biden regime gets four more years, they are coming for your guns,” Trump railed.

Really pulling out the “greatest hits” with this piece here. He’s got nothing else.

gregorum ,

That’s a GOP golden oldie. I’ve heard that same bs line since the early 90s at least.

rwhitisissle ,

And it’s a great line for the gun lobby. In a lot of ways, the NRA and gun manufacturers would prefer a Biden victory because gun sales spike when Democratic presidents get elected, as gun-nuts are certain every time it happens that this is the time, for real, that they’re “coming for our guns.” In other words, people panic buy rifles because they think a federal ban is coming. But the reality is that Dems will never push through sweeping anti-gun legislation because there are so many pro-2FA democrats out there that doing so would be ludicrously difficult and monumentally unpopular.

darkpanda ,

‘Member when Trump said he’d take guns without due process? Like he literally said that.

youtu.be/yxgybgEKHHI?si=5WjokT9mD_4VQ46T

CCF_100 ,

“regime”

He really used that word? Wow…

Theprogressivist ,
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I said the same thing. Heavy eye roll.

brain_in_a_box ,

Doesn’t he know that that word only applies to foreign nations.

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    brain_in_a_box ,

    Sorry, I should have said foreign, non-white nations.

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    brain_in_a_box ,

    If you’re just going to make pithy insults, you should at least have them make sense.

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    brain_in_a_box ,

    It could, but it only accurately applies to you

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    brain_in_a_box ,

    It’s working on you

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    brain_in_a_box ,

    Sure, you definitely don’t seem mad.

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    brain_in_a_box ,

    Sure sure, you can tell a person definitely isn’t mad when they pull out the ‘chief’ and the ‘lol’

    Blackbeard ,
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    You are both trying to win by reporting the other’s comments, so I’m kindly asking you both to stop.

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    This conversation is over now.

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    Blackbeard ,
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    You are both trying to win by reporting the other’s comments, so I’m kindly asking you both to stop.

    brain_in_a_box ,

    I can’t report comments that clearly break the rules?

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    This conversation is over now.

    lolcatnip ,

    This is partly just blowback from everyone agreeing to use different vocabulary for governments we like vs governments we don’t. We never should have tolerated the blatant propaganda of the US having an “administration” while our adversaries have “regimes”.

    There are lots of other examples of journalists using loaded vocabulary this way. Most of them escape me at the moment but I can think of a few, like “freedom fighters” vs “insurgents” or “terrorists”, and “police action” or “peacekeeping force” vs “occupation” or “invasion”.

    Sludgehammer ,
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    So let’s see here, Trump is 77 years old, but will be 78 at the time of election. Let’s just add eight years and we get 86… yep he’s angling for president for life.

    Theprogressivist ,
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    Yep, and his brain will be mush, so who knows who’d really be running the show.

    AbidanYre ,

    Will be? It already is.

    tsonfeir ,
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    Maybe he has worms. 🪱

    Scubus ,

    Nah, rfk was able to sustain it for a little bit. In Trump’s brain it would file refugee status and emmigrate.

    disguy_ovahea ,

    Not before he has it deported.

    lolcatnip ,

    It already is mush.

    Zerlyna , (edited )
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    But Biden is too old already. SMH. Maybe he’ll get sucked out of a faulty window in his plane. Edit: that was a /s people.

    tsonfeir ,
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    Who, Trump?

    Zerlyna ,
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    Yes sorry

    Ensign_Crab ,

    He’s angling for hereditary dictatorship.

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