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Burn_The_Right ,

Conservatives are cockroaches.

lolcatnip ,

Cockroaches are just a nuisance. Republicans are cancer.

Burn_The_Right ,

Cancer roaches… Conservatives are cancer roaches.

frostysauce ,

I hate conservative ideology but I’m not cool with dehumanizing them in this fashion. That’s literally the words of fascism. Jews were referred to as cockroaches in Germany in the 1930s.

djsoren19 ,

Your enemy has already dehumanized you. They are fascists. You’re offering them far more sympathy and compassion than they would ever give you, and they would gladly use your sympathy against you given any opportunity.

frostysauce ,

You’re offering them far more sympathy and compassion than they would ever give you

Yes, because we’re better than them.

Burn_The_Right ,

Your “betterness” is only seen by conservatives as weakness to exploit. As we move into an era of much more deadly consequences, your position of “being better” is dangerous to you and those around you.

VirtigoMommy ,

Then let them think we’re weak. Dehumanizing others goes against my principles, whether or not that person dehumanizes me. I won’t compromise myself to “best” them because doing so would defeat the purpose.

Refusing to dehumanize them doesn’t make us any more exploitable, and I would argue refusal to dehumanize others solidifies trust on the side of those with humanity left.

When I see someone refuse to sink to such low states as calling other humans “cockroaches” i have more respect for them, and that much more faith trust they won’t turn around and call me a cockroach a few years down the line when political tides change.

If you’re out here calling people cockroaches then I really don’t give a fuck what you have to say. Bad faith, emotional based insults get us nowhere. They give us too much ammo to be that lazy.

Burn_The_Right ,

Humanizing an enemy who will not return the sentiment is how kind, empathetic people are led to their deaths. Withholding emotions for an enemy (who is incapable of empathy and who delights in your suffering) helps to eliminate emotional conflicts when hesitation will result in loss.

On the topic of emotional responses: Your emotional response to my withholding of empathy for the enemy leads me to distrust your ability to do what is needed when the time comes. I argue that the “emotional response” in this argument has been yours alone.

In any other situation, where an existential life and death conflict was not at hand, I would agree with you. When prepping for war, however, I must insist on not being empathetic with my enemy.

VirtigoMommy ,

My response wasn’t particularly emotional but sure.

Keeping my empathy doesn’t preclude me from being discerning, swift and decisive in moments of crisis or high risk. I prefer to be kind, that doesn’t mean I don’t know how to be vicious.

When “prepping for war”, it’s important to consider the non-actors that may get caught in the crossfire. “Conservatives” is a wide generalization, many of them are not only capable of empathy, but dare I say decent people, even if they’re under the spell of propaganda.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a trans woman with a gun and a plan for if/when crisis hits. I’m very aware of the current threats to my life and continued pursuit of happiness. But before that I’m human, and so are they. And as far as I can tell, most of them are as unwilling to participate in this propaganda driven culture war as I am.

So yeah, I’ll keep my empathy.

Don’t let one loud house ruin the neighborhood.

BigMacHole ,

Republicans want BEARDED, MUSCLEY PENIS-HAVERS TO USE YOUR DAUGHTER’S BATHROOM!

Ilovemyirishtemper ,

It’s interesting to me that I only ever hear men complaining about this issue. That might not be reality, but from what I’ve seen, men are using “protect our women” as a reason for this hateful legislation when most of the women they are “protecting” don’t really care.

Could be confirmation bias.

djsoren19 ,

It’s because there’s fewer women crazies in power on the right. The ones that have been elected say this kinda hateful rhetoric anytime trans people are brought up to, but most of them aren’t elected because Republicans hate women too.

IphtashuFitz ,

Ok, so what if dad brings his 3-year-old daughter into the men’s room, or mom brings her infant son into the ladies room? Can I sue over the emotional trauma that caused me?

ShepherdPie ,

Or more importantly what if I use the bathroom in my home and then my wife or daughter use it later? Can I sue them both?

Phegan ,

People are starving and unhoused and this is the shit they choose to focus on. People should be mad

SoleInvictus ,

People are starving and unhoused and that’s exactly why they’re focusing on this. To distract people from the source of their actual issues. Bread and circuses.

ameancow ,

The people sliding the checks under the table to the politicians pounding this worthless wardrum day and night are the same people who profit greatly on the idea that there are people who have, and people who have not. As long as this dichotomy is preserved at all costs, the system remains stable and the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor where they belong: supporting the wealthy with their low-wage labor, and the vast, complicated spectrum in between.

Trans people became the latest convenient target because they’re such small segment of the population. They’re being singled out exactly because they’re easier targets than a racial or ethnic minority. Not that they’ve stopped pointing at ethnic and racial minorities, but they know that more people will push back a lot harder on overtly stated ideas of racial superiority.

tiefling ,

As a circus performer, I’d rather not be dragged down to the level of these shit heads.

SoleInvictus ,

No no, I don’t intend to besmirch circuses. It’s a phrase attributed to a second century AD Roman poet, referring to politicians generating public approval by providing diversion instead of fixing the root causes of issues or even handling those issues at all.

We could also say “bread and games”.

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Food and sports

Archer ,

Dang you’re right that is so unfair to circus professionals

tiefling , (edited )

Ironically, most circus performers tend to be very liberal. The circus sideshow is home to all the outcasts, and a large chunk of us are trans or queer. Many of us are disabled, some of us have deformities or body mods (I have a forked tongue). Republicans would undoubtedly send us to the gallows if they could.

I’ve literally gone on stage to warn people about the bills that Republicans are trying to pass. At our core, we’re artists, and we’re trying to fight the good fight.

In fact, the history of the “freak show” is very interesting and worth reading about. It’s a story of how capitalism exploits vulnerable populations for profit (PT Barnum is a piece of shit), though it has evolved a lot over time and is different now.

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

In fact, the history of the “freak show” is very interesting and worth reading about. It’s a story of how capitalism exploits vulnerable populations for profit (PT Barnum is a piece of shit), though it has evolved a lot over time and is different now.

40 minute video essay on the topic

lolcatnip ,

Yes? They’re focusing on issues where they don’t like status quo.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

Does this also affect any private establishment that wants to have a non-gendered bathroom? Like can those businesses sue the government for overreach for putting an onerous burden on their business for needing more than one bathroom?

some_guy ,

Oh, awesome! Cause that’s what I need when I’m struggling. I don’t need health care. I don’t need a livable wage. I don’t need equal rights. I need to sue trans people.

See? Repubs are giving us a path to success. Just sue a trans person who maybe has no money to pay out and everything is fine!

5in1k ,

That governor looks like an adult baby. Creepy pedo vibes for sure

TheJims ,

Peter Griffins special needs brother

unreasonabro ,

but my umbrage

enbyecho ,

I’d give even odds that this guy has tried on panty hose at least once.

MonkderDritte ,

What a dick.

Dkarma ,

This is a first amendment violation. My bathroom choice is my Expression

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t have to live next to me

Just give me my equality

Everybody knows about Mississippi

Everybody knows about Alabama

Everybody knows about Mississippi, goddamn

Nina Simone sang it about the black experience in Mississippi in the 1960s. With a couple of minor lyrics changes, it could be about the queer experience today.

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

Now imagine the queer experience back then…

aphlamingphoenix ,

“This is a show tune but the show hasn’t been written for it yet.”

Plume ,
@Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I was talking to my therapist yesterday about this, before this news dropped. How I couldn’t wait to get my new ID card with an F on it so that I could finally go to the bathroom without too much fear. If someone happened to spot that maybe I was trans, I could just put it out and say “look, I’m a woman” and walk away.

But she was in disbelief at this. She genuinely couldn’t wrap her head around the idea of someone making a scene because a trans person was in their bathroom. Like, at first, she thought I was blowing up a non existent issue. “Who would do this?!”, she asked, And I told her it was an actual issue that lots of people were doing it and therefore lots of trans people avoided the bathroom like the plague.

And when I told her about some US states new laws, taking Utah as an example, her jaw dropped. She had this look of utter disappointment, like I had just chipped away a piece of her faith in humanity.

Not only did the idea never crossed her mind, she couldn’t even conceive why it would be a problem. I laughed at this and told her: “That’s because you’re a normal person.”

Just wanted to share this with all of you, especially fellow trans people. It’s good to know that while some people are mentally deranged at the idea of my existence, It not only seems to be a very loud minority, but it also seems to be a repellent for a lot of people who cannot grasp their obsessions.

Seeing someone who isn’t really aware of our issues in the first place being shocked at these things was relieving. It felt good and gave me hope.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Even though I rationally understand it, I still have a hard time wrapping my head around it. Let someone shit in peace. If I’m in the men’s room and someone comes in there that looks like a woman dressed as a man, I couldn’t care less.

In fact, if someone came into the men’s room and looked like Marylin Monroe in the famous white dress, I couldn’t care less.

Piss, shit, whatever.

Just don’t talk to me. I’m not in there to make friends.

Plume ,
@Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Imagine going to the bathroom, just to take a shit! How fucking weird, right? (/s)

…seriously, I wonder what these people imagine we’re doing in the bathroom. Or hell, what are they doing in the bathroom that warrant such worries?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They like to bring up the “a man could wear a dress and go into the women’s room and rape a little girl” canard. To which I reply, “they’d probably get away with that more easily if they wore a janitor’s uniform. We really should ban janitors from bathrooms.”

They don’t care for that suggestion.

Plume ,
@Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I may be pulling something out of my ass but I honestly can’t be bothered to check. But, wasn’t this something that was said about lesbian women too? That they shouldn’t be allowed in women’s bathroom because they would pry on other women and so on?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

At this point, maybe people should just start shitting on the floor if someone tries to challenge them.

CouncilOfFriends ,

Nobody even notices at Wal-Mart

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Of course not, but just try doing it in an Aeropostale.

…not that I’d know anything about that.

cmbabul ,

Yo that is way too specific of a clothing store that isn’t really relevant anymore

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t say I did it recently!

cmbabul ,

Was this hypothetical deuce a Jackass/CKY/Tom Green era related prank?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

…sure. Let’s go with that.

captainlezbian ,

Not only was that a thing, a lot of the transphobic violence in bathrooms winds up hitting cis lesbians

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Or just, like, cis girls with short hair.

aphlamingphoenix ,

They already do this in church. They don’t need to risk trying it in a public bathroom.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

So the only thing stopping them from doing that now is the dress detecting force field around the bathroom?

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

Republican politicians only use public restrooms for closeted homosexual hookups before going to their rallies to scream about hating the gays.

unreasonabro ,

Taking your penis off and rubbing it on the toilet paper, obviously

captainlezbian ,

There’s three acceptable forms of communication in the restroom: functional (eg after you), quick compliments on outfit/makeup (some dislike it but it grew on me), and the far too drunk lady who speaks the wisdom she cannot possess

ShepherdPie ,

quick compliments

“Smells like you’ve been eating your recommended dose of fiber. Great job!”

Jax ,

quick compliments

Sounded like your were fryin’ chicken in there. I like that.

Moobythegoldensock ,

Whenever I walk into a public restroom, I whip out my portable lab equipment and forcibly karyotype everyone there. How else am I supposed to piss for 20 seconds in peace?

Fedizen ,

insanity.

robocall ,
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

Where are people supposed to shit?!

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Where does their state congress meet? Inside their desks sounds reasonable to me.

unreasonabro ,

the lawn

TheJims ,

They’re trying to legislate them out of existence.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

The entire point is to make their existence illegal. Then no matter what they do you can charge them with the excuse of “they shouldn’t have broken the law.”

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