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cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

Mississippi governor volunteers to be a piss-bucket

Maddier1993 ,

Let the rest of NA band together and start calling them pississippi and let their residents scratch their heads

unreasonabro ,

And if they get uppity about it, they get labelled MissusPissy

toomanypancakes ,
@toomanypancakes@lemmy.world avatar

If I ever go to Mississippi I guess I’m gonna have to piss on the governor’s mansion instead

nick , (edited )

Why would you ever do something so disgusting?

Go to Mississippi I mean, it’s the literal worst state in the worst country.

Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

You don’t know how much that means to me as a Texan. I was thinking we were the worst, but you give me hope.

AlligatorBlizzard ,

As a former Floridian, I thought Florida was the worst.

No, wait, I’m pretty sure Florida is still the worst, but Mississippi is going to be joining Florida on Erin’s Do Not Travel list. :(

captainlezbian ,

Florida speed ran to the bottom. Mississippi has been awful from the start. Texas is the disappointment state, it keeps looking like it might turn blue before pulling some bullshit

Cubes , (edited )

the worst country

This seems a little dramatic

Edit: lol downvoted for mildly pushing back against the idea that the US is the worst of the ~200 other countries in the world. Never change, Lemmy.

nick ,

Try being trans, gay, or black here then get back to me.

Edit: or poor. Or homeless. Or neurodivergent. Or mentally ill.

Actually you know what, just go fuck yourself, how’s that?

wanderingmagus ,

Looks at Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, etc

Cubes ,

just go fuck yourself, how’s that?

This also seems incredibly dramatic

I’m not trying to say that the US is perfect, but do you honestly believe that the US is the “worst” place to be any of the things you listed?

There are plenty of places in the world you would be put to death for being gay. Try asking an immigrant from literally any of those countries if they prefer the US and get back to me.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

We did it guys! The bar is a millimeter off the floor and we cleared it!

Cubes ,

You’re actually arguing that the difference between being put to death and not is a “millimeter off the floor”? That is some privileged nonsense, frankly.

I agree that the US has problems, but hyperbolic doomerism is hardly conducive to changing any of that.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m saying “Some places are worse” is not an argument that “This is fine”.

The point being discussed is that this is a terrible law and an example of Mississippi being a shit hole. You are just side tracking the conversation because you don’t understand the function of hyperbole in speech and think talking about how “The US isn’t literally the worst place to live” is somehow a helpful or useful conversation to have in light of the topic art hand.

The US has problems, and insisting that some places are worse is hardly conducive to changing any of that.

Cubes ,

The point being discussed is that this is a terrible law and an example of Mississippi being a shit hole

This is not the comment I replied to. The comment I replied to was essentially saying that MS and therefore the US are not worth visiting, and I think that’s silly.

“This is fine”

I didn’t say this. I actually agree with you that the MS law is terrible, but trying to push back on the general sentiment of the original comment I replied to: saying the US is the “worst” because of something that Mississippi does.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

I actually agree with you that the MS law is terrible, but trying to push back on the general sentiment of the original comment I replied to

Right: side tracking from the conversation at hand to insist hyperbole is not literal. That does not help and only serves as a distraction.

Cubes ,

You realize that a comments section can have more than 1 discussion going on in it, right? It’s not a “distraction” to talk about something else or disagree with a part of someone’s comment.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s still a distraction from the topic at hand. I’ll also note that you don’t appear to have any comments in this comment section other than “The US isn’t the worst country” so what is it you think you are adding to the discussion here? Hyperbole is bad because someone might get confused?

djsoren19 ,

I’ve got real bad news about how the rest of the world feels about those things then.

As sad as it is, America is one of the most progressive and diverse nations in the world.

frostysauce ,

America sucks but have you heard of Haiti?

Lucidlethargy ,

The US is the worst country? Wat? Bro, have you heard of North Korea?

Maddier1993 ,

Can we petition to rename it Missipississipy?

Viking_Hippie ,

Too difficult to pronounce. Let’s just call it Pississippi. There’s too many M states and only one P state anyway 🤷

Kowowow ,

Bed bugs man

Tar_alcaran ,

Can’t wait for all the dudes walking into the ladies room simply because of chromosomes. They never consider the reverse when dog whistling…

GoddessOfGouda ,

Pretty sure this already happened to a trans guy once and you wouldn’t guess what they did…. They were mad about a man in the women’s room 🤦‍♀️

HopeOfTheGunblade ,
@HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social avatar

He got beat up and arrested.

Plume ,
@Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

You how they say, “it’s not a bug, it’s a feature”? Well…

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’d love a source on that.

I mean, actually, is love for it not to have happened and for people to just stop being assholes, but barring that, I would be interested to see this corroborated

djsoren19 ,

They don’t care. Their goal is for trans people to be too afraid to go to any restroom, or for them to face consequences if they dare go to any restroom.

GoddessOfGouda ,

Can trans people sue cis people for harassment then?

lolcatnip ,

No. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Trans people are one of their main out-groups.

Beaver ,
@Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

Those poor judges who want to deal with legitimate cases

jeffw OP ,

Oh the fifth circuit is SO excited for this

Edit: I had to google to double check, but yes, Mississippi is part of the fifth circuit (ones of the most conservative appeals courts in the USA)

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sure the conservative half of SCOTUS won’t complain if it gets kicked up to them either.

StrawberryPigtails ,

The thing that gets me with this is, how is anyone to know?

If you present as the gender on the door, what are they going to do? Rip your pants down and check? Cop a feel? That’s assault. Peep through the stall? Pretty sure that’s a misdemeanor, most places.

I get the idea behind this is terror, but “Fuck off! I’m shitting here!” should be the only response anyone should get to a nosy question in the bathroom.

Plume ,
@Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It’s because these people have the “we can always tell” mentality. But then they’re the same people who go harass trans guys on Twitter telling them that they will never be women…

Soulg ,

They have an outdated idea of trans people and think that trans women are literally just guys in dresses (kinda like 80s transvestites, if that word is still usable). So they expect to see fucking Frankenfurter from Rocky horror or Eddie Izzard (she’s fantastic and all but let’s not kid ourselves that she’s what they expect trans women to look like)

acetanilide ,

Well considering that one woman literally pulled another woman’s skirt down (not all the way) because she felt it was too short, in front of other people, and then called 911 herself, I wouldn’t put it past someone in a bathroom to do worse if they “suspected” someone was trans, whether or not they actually are

Also I’m sorry for all the commas but I already did it and I don’t want to edit it lol

captainlezbian ,

And people who would do this think they can always tell. What are the odds they’ll believe a 6’2” woman when she says she was born with the vulva they just made visible?

Anise ,

Not all trans women pass. It takes a combination of the genetic lottery, a lot of money, time, and work to pass. Not everyone has that luck nor those resources. Nonbinary folks are also put in a no-win situation.

StrawberryPigtails ,

I’ve met and currently work with more than a few folks, who were neither trans or crossdressers, of both genders that would have trouble “passing” as their own gender.

On a completely unrelated topic:
codes.findlaw.com/al/…/al-code-sect-13a-3-23/
law.justia.com/codes/…/section-16-3-23-1/

I don’t spend as much time in these states so you’ll have to find code yourself but here’s some interesting summaries:
giffords.org/…/stand-your-ground-in-mississippi/
giffords.org/…/stand-your-ground-in-texas/
giffords.org/…/stand-your-ground-in-louisiana/
giffords.org/…/stand-your-ground-in-florida/giffords.org/…/stand-your-ground-in-tennessee/

I always prefer to avoid conflict wherever possible, even if it means not going somewhere I want to go, but it’s always nice to know I have options should things go sideways. Always learn the law in your area. It makes making a profit easier.

Anise ,

I will just never go back to the south. I won’t spend tourism money in places that want me dead. I am not shy to tell friends and family to avoid it too. Most people are unaware of how bad it is getting out there for trans people and when I tell them they usually agree that they don’t want to support those economies either.

NoIWontPickAName ,

God bless Mississippi for being just close enough to Missouri that I have hope that it might not be us

Artyom , (edited )

I assume that integrated into this bill are guaranteed rights that trans people can countersue for harassment and defamation if they are misgendered while using the legally mandated bathroom.

robocall ,
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

Where are people supposed to shit?!

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Where does their state congress meet? Inside their desks sounds reasonable to me.

unreasonabro ,

the lawn

TheJims ,

They’re trying to legislate them out of existence.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

The entire point is to make their existence illegal. Then no matter what they do you can charge them with the excuse of “they shouldn’t have broken the law.”

Fedizen ,

insanity.

Plume ,
@Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I was talking to my therapist yesterday about this, before this news dropped. How I couldn’t wait to get my new ID card with an F on it so that I could finally go to the bathroom without too much fear. If someone happened to spot that maybe I was trans, I could just put it out and say “look, I’m a woman” and walk away.

But she was in disbelief at this. She genuinely couldn’t wrap her head around the idea of someone making a scene because a trans person was in their bathroom. Like, at first, she thought I was blowing up a non existent issue. “Who would do this?!”, she asked, And I told her it was an actual issue that lots of people were doing it and therefore lots of trans people avoided the bathroom like the plague.

And when I told her about some US states new laws, taking Utah as an example, her jaw dropped. She had this look of utter disappointment, like I had just chipped away a piece of her faith in humanity.

Not only did the idea never crossed her mind, she couldn’t even conceive why it would be a problem. I laughed at this and told her: “That’s because you’re a normal person.”

Just wanted to share this with all of you, especially fellow trans people. It’s good to know that while some people are mentally deranged at the idea of my existence, It not only seems to be a very loud minority, but it also seems to be a repellent for a lot of people who cannot grasp their obsessions.

Seeing someone who isn’t really aware of our issues in the first place being shocked at these things was relieving. It felt good and gave me hope.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Even though I rationally understand it, I still have a hard time wrapping my head around it. Let someone shit in peace. If I’m in the men’s room and someone comes in there that looks like a woman dressed as a man, I couldn’t care less.

In fact, if someone came into the men’s room and looked like Marylin Monroe in the famous white dress, I couldn’t care less.

Piss, shit, whatever.

Just don’t talk to me. I’m not in there to make friends.

Plume ,
@Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Imagine going to the bathroom, just to take a shit! How fucking weird, right? (/s)

…seriously, I wonder what these people imagine we’re doing in the bathroom. Or hell, what are they doing in the bathroom that warrant such worries?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

They like to bring up the “a man could wear a dress and go into the women’s room and rape a little girl” canard. To which I reply, “they’d probably get away with that more easily if they wore a janitor’s uniform. We really should ban janitors from bathrooms.”

They don’t care for that suggestion.

Plume ,
@Plume@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I may be pulling something out of my ass but I honestly can’t be bothered to check. But, wasn’t this something that was said about lesbian women too? That they shouldn’t be allowed in women’s bathroom because they would pry on other women and so on?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

At this point, maybe people should just start shitting on the floor if someone tries to challenge them.

CouncilOfFriends ,

Nobody even notices at Wal-Mart

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Of course not, but just try doing it in an Aeropostale.

…not that I’d know anything about that.

cmbabul ,

Yo that is way too specific of a clothing store that isn’t really relevant anymore

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t say I did it recently!

cmbabul ,

Was this hypothetical deuce a Jackass/CKY/Tom Green era related prank?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

…sure. Let’s go with that.

captainlezbian ,

Not only was that a thing, a lot of the transphobic violence in bathrooms winds up hitting cis lesbians

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Or just, like, cis girls with short hair.

aphlamingphoenix ,

They already do this in church. They don’t need to risk trying it in a public bathroom.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

So the only thing stopping them from doing that now is the dress detecting force field around the bathroom?

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

Republican politicians only use public restrooms for closeted homosexual hookups before going to their rallies to scream about hating the gays.

unreasonabro ,

Taking your penis off and rubbing it on the toilet paper, obviously

captainlezbian ,

There’s three acceptable forms of communication in the restroom: functional (eg after you), quick compliments on outfit/makeup (some dislike it but it grew on me), and the far too drunk lady who speaks the wisdom she cannot possess

ShepherdPie ,

quick compliments

“Smells like you’ve been eating your recommended dose of fiber. Great job!”

Jax ,

quick compliments

Sounded like your were fryin’ chicken in there. I like that.

Moobythegoldensock ,

Whenever I walk into a public restroom, I whip out my portable lab equipment and forcibly karyotype everyone there. How else am I supposed to piss for 20 seconds in peace?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t have to live next to me

Just give me my equality

Everybody knows about Mississippi

Everybody knows about Alabama

Everybody knows about Mississippi, goddamn

Nina Simone sang it about the black experience in Mississippi in the 1960s. With a couple of minor lyrics changes, it could be about the queer experience today.

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

Now imagine the queer experience back then…

aphlamingphoenix ,

“This is a show tune but the show hasn’t been written for it yet.”

Dkarma ,

This is a first amendment violation. My bathroom choice is my Expression

MonkderDritte ,

What a dick.

enbyecho ,

I’d give even odds that this guy has tried on panty hose at least once.

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