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lambalicious ,

10th time

only now threatens jail time

Correct me but any pregraduate law student who hasn’t been skipping on their classes could get rich by filing for the obvious bias the judges have to allow 10 contempts of court, wouldn’t they?

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

This is the second ruling of contempt

First ruling was collectively over 9 comments he made.

This is the second, and said next would be jail time.

BakerBagel ,

This is still from the first batch of contempt charges. The judge ruled on 9/10 and wanted more information before ruling on the 10th

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

This is the second, and said next would be jail time.

Didn’t they say that after the first as well?

Asafum ,

And they’ll say it again after the next.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

No.

lambalicious ,

So, if I am understanding correctly, as a citizen I can threaten a judge 9 times, or threaten 9 different judges, and demand that I can only be held accountable for only one of them, or for all of them as a package only once?

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

No, you are not understanding it correctly.

lambalicious ,

Feel free to explain then, because from here it looks like El Trumpo should have been thrown to jail 8 contempts ago, like any normal citizen. Right now if I was a US citizen I would be justified in citing precedent that I can’t be sent to jail or even threatened with jail time with only 6 contempts.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

No thanks

unreasonabro ,

America is not a real place

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

50 states in a trenchcoat ran by a shadow agency doing the bidding of oligarchs.

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

What shadow agency?

KroninJ ,
@KroninJ@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly

lightnsfw ,

congress

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Everyone complaining about the judges leniency… consider that getting locked up would be absolute gold for trumps campaign. Infinite money as well as great exposure.

Yeas it works be great to see him behind bars, but I’d prefer to play the long game.

Baggie ,

I would wonder then what would be a better alternative? Like if he’s going to milk being a martyr then how can he be punished?

fine_sandy_bottom ,

He just needs to go to jail for a real crime with a penalty of many years.

If you lock him up for a couple of days it just activates his base.

VinnyDaCat ,

Wish more people understood this.

Even if he was locked up for a lengthy period of time, he can campaign from jail. There is precedent for this. He has to be locked up under specific circumstances to stop his campaign.

kibiz0r ,

Name one famous example of a charismatic coup-attempting fascist getting locked up and rallying their supporters behind a manifesto referring to “their struggle”.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

Ooh ooh I know this one! The answer is Hitler!

paholg ,

That is irrelevant. If Trump’s behavior would cause a regular schlub to be jailed, then he should be jailed, full stop. That’s how the law is supposed to work.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

I’m sorry but you’re gravely mistaken.

A judges whole job is to interpret the law and to apply appropriate penalties given the circumstances.

In some cases crimes have prescribed penalties - “exceeding the speed limit by 5mph” probably has a prescribed penalty.

In other cases the judge must weight the circumstances and determine what penalty is appropriate.

In this case, trump is antagonising the judge because it keeps his base engaged, and keeps campaign donations flowing in. Trump wants to go to jail because it would ignite his base. Why would a judge feel that penalty is appropriate? May as well give him a blow job.

More to the point, the primary objective of any punishment in this case would be to cause Trump to desist. If putting him in jail is not going to do that, but rather give his contemptuous remarks a far greater reach, then why indeed put him in jail?

Honestly, the best course of action for the judge and the correct “punishment” for Trump is to give his various utterances the least oxygen possible while preserving the authority of the court.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll do it you big meanie!!! :'(

Burn_The_Right ,

“Just 15 or 20 more times, mister! I’m not kidding this time!”

Dorkyd68 ,

You guys rip on me 13 or 14 more times and I’m out of here. ~basketball

Hyphlosion ,
@Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

I don’t know why I hang out with you guys!

WindyRebel ,

Your mom’s dating SQUEAK!

Oderus ,

Dude

Chef ,

You should be ashamed of yourselves!

Back in the driveway, we were nothing!

Now we’ve risen to the highest level, but you’re throwin’ it all away!

If you’ve forgotten what baseketball means to America, you have only to look at this board - the Malaka-Laka Balance Board of Trust.

Don’t you see what we have here?

A game where guys with bad backs and bad knees can… get together and compete on the same field as guys that are all goosed up on steroids.

But more than anything, isn’t this game about gettin’ together with your friends and just havin’ a good time?

I remember. I remember a long time ago, I didn’t have anybody.

You guys took me in. I guess that’s why it kills me to see you like this.

If we can’t be friends… then the heart and soul are out of this game. Certainly out of me. I know I’ll never get that back again.

We have sullied the waters of the Lagoon of Peace!

I’m begging you, for the love of our Caribbean brothers, dudes, stop this madness!

Voroxpete ,

It’s 2 times. The first 9 violations were assessed as a block (it was 9 separate tweets). So this is only his second warning.

Given that the judge doesn’t want to get the case thrown out on appeal, two warnings is perfectly reasonable.

Burn_The_Right ,

Look, buddy… Your reasonabilitiness is getting in the way of my pissedoffedness. Meet me back here in two weeks so one of us can say “See? I told you so!”

Voroxpete ,

I’ll have to check my schedule, I think I already have an angry screaming match scheduled around that time.

moon ,

“threatens” lmao ok let me know when you’re actually gonna do something

Sam_Bass ,

Threatening him does nothing but make the judge look like a chickenshit same as the rest

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

“The last thing I want to do is put you in jail.”

~ Judge Juan Merchan

We love our fair and impartial judiciary, don’t we folks? Lets give Judge Merchan a big hand. He’s helping to Make America Great Again.

drislands ,

I wonder if he means that in the sense of “putting you in jail is only going to empower your frankly rabid base of supporters. I need to avoid even the slightest hint of a mistrial so we can put you in prison for good.”

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

putting you in jail is only going to empower your frankly rabid base of supporters

What does the judge think will happen should the jury returns a guilty verdict?

FrostyTheDoo ,

Then the jury will be targeted instead of the judge, so he’d prefer that.

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy ,

A jury of people selected (partly) by his own lawyers convicting him should be a lot easier of a pill to swallow for his base than a “Democrat” judge unilaterally deciding, on his own, to detain trump.

key word here is “should”

Honestly while Trumps legal team have been complaining about not being able to get a fair trial, that works both ways. I’m worried about enough MAGAts making their way onto the jury to nullify

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I need to avoid even the slightest hint of a mistrial so we can put you in prison for good

I mean I’m pretty sure that’s it. There’s no chance whatsoever this doesn’t go to appeal if he’s convicted, and you don’t want the case to be overturned because the appeal court thinks the judge was biased against Trump

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

He knows that the rabid Republicans will try to twist it to say that he was jailed to prevent him from attending his own hearing. When they would gladly teleconference him in from the cell, like they do with other criminals. But that’s not good enough for Donald Duck. Either this Jack-o’-lantern gets to sit there and look pretty or he will scream and cry a fit until election day comes around and it’s too late.

It’s all part of the nut factory’s plan.

Chainweasel ,

Contempt charges are usually held in a cell in the courthouse, and they just parade you out for your trial and then put you back in the cell when it’s over. He’ll be able to do literally nothing but attend his own trial.

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

But if he starts acting out once they have him in cuffs, screaming about how his special mister person privileges are being violated, won’t they be putting him back in the cell?

skeezix ,

Bok bok!

Karyoplasma ,

Doesn’t this create a precedence for being a dick to judges because they let it slide for Drowsy Don and everyone is supposed to be treated equally in front of court? I wonder what would happen if I were to be found in contempt of court for the 10th time in my trial.

UFODivebomb ,

It does! Tempted to start a campaign educating the accused on their rights to harass judges and staff.

Karyoplasma ,

You’ll run into less trouble if you just accept the fact that some people are more equal than others.

isles ,

Accepting that “fact” is how we got here.

Voroxpete ,

He’s not been warned ten times. It’s ten violations. The first nine happened as a block. So this is his second strike, in terms of how often he’s been reprimanded for this.

Son_of_dad ,

If you put him in jail for a weekend, he’ll be treated like a martyr and will be treated like a king by the cops and guards, who are surely his own supporters.

Olhonestjim ,

Not if he breaks.

Jimmyeatsausage ,

Yes, if he breaks… His supporters have literally taken the stance of “wearing diapers and shitting your pants is manly.”

If he breaks, it’s because that’s what a man does. Hell, if video came out of him going down on some dude, you’d see all his homophobic followers wear “I suck dick for Trump” shirts, loud and proud, and with no hint of irony.

Nothing matters to them anymore except Trump, so nothing Tru.o does can dissuade them… They’ll just change whatever they like/hate to stay on the team.

Even if they put him in jail, it’d be like when Capone went. He’ll get his own cell by himself with a TV to watch fox news on, they’ll give him a phone to tweet his bullshit, probably a personal chef to make him Big Macs and Diet Cokes.

This isn’t the case that’s gonna fix the justice system, even if we did throw him in jail.

HubertManne ,

Is it bad that I would sorta like to see that? The tshirt thing that is.

Olhonestjim ,

That’s no excuse to help him avoid jail or prison. Nobody should give a damn whether it causes his followers to act out. America can handle them.

SeattleRain ,

And? If his followers riot throw them in jail too. Tired of the legal system tip toeing around right wingnuts. They don’t do it for anyone else.

Son_of_dad ,

Better arm up then, if you want things to get more explosive

Cheems ,
@Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

So your stance is he should be above the law because you’re scared of the maga klan

Son_of_dad ,

No. I never said he should be let off. I’m saying go ahead and jail him, but don’t act like it’s gonna be quiet and calm. Arm up.

brygphilomena ,

Honestly. I am so sick of hearing “he’ll be a martyr” as if it’s a certainty. It’s excusing not giving him consequences.

Son_of_dad ,

I’m not making it an excuse to keep him out of jail. I’m just stating a fact. Prepare for it.

Dkarma ,

So what will change? NOTHING. Except maybe he’ll stfu

adam_y ,
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

Wow, he must have really learned his lesson from the last 9 telling offs.

FenrirIII ,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

At $1,000 a pop, paid for by his cultists, he doesn’t care.

adam_y ,
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

Sort of my point.

rusticus ,

Susan Collins has entered the chat

chunkystyles ,

Oh fuck you got reminding me of that shit. Damn near a day ruiner.

Voroxpete ,

It was one telling off, for 9 separate tweets that the judge was made aware of. So this is his second warning.

swordgeek ,

Stop. Threatening.

Start. Sentencing.

Ragnarok314159 ,

Sentencing him to jail is going to activate his base. That’s my only concern. People who have grown tired of him crying wolf will finally see this as the deep state locking away Trump to keep him from campaigning.

Voroxpete ,

It’s not a sentence. This is a penalty imposed by a judge for misbehaviour in a court room, not a sentence handed down for a crime.

And the judge has to give at least a couple of warnings (this is actually the 2nd, not the 10th; the first 9 violations were all assessed as a block) or else he risks the actual case getting thrown out on appeal.

Kuvwert ,

100 hours of trash pickup per violation

MamboGator ,
@MamboGator@lemmy.world avatar

That wouldn’t be fair because standing up would count as trash pickup for him.

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

If the jail time is on par with the fines he gets, he should spend about five minutes in jail. That should teach him not to do it again.

Voroxpete ,

It’s actually pretty likely to just be an afternoon, the first time around. Remember, this is a penalty for behaviour in court, not for the actual crimes he’s done. The point is to get him to stop acting like a little child. So yeah, odds are the judge books him for an afternoon, just so he can see how bad it is, then if he still keeps at it he starts getting week long stretches until he learns to stop attacking witnesses.

ExfilBravo ,

That judges threats are emptier than an Donald Trumps head.

Voroxpete ,

Don’t be fooled by the “10th time”. There were 9 separate violations that were all brought as a single complaint last week. So technically one “time” (as in, one ruling), just regarding 9 separate tweets so technically nine separate incidents. Number ten here is basically Donnie’s second strike in terms of actual warnings. If he gets a third without repercussions, then I think it’ll be fair to say the judge may be bluffing.

Remember, judges have to play things a little softly if they don’t want to set up precedent for appeal. He can’t give Trump any reason to claim he’s being treated unfairly. Two warnings is perfectly reasonable.

rusticus ,

Trump’s hair has entered cotton candy mode

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