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ctkatz ,

I think it was more like a literal handful of arizona gop state legislators realized how bad of a look not repealing this law would be for the state republicans up and down the ballot this year and took away a cudgel the state democratic party was going to hammer every republican on the ballot with.

phdepressed ,

Whatever the reason it’s a good outcome this time.

outer_spec ,
@outer_spec@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

yes!!! 😊

Wytch ,

Better late than never?

TropicalDingdong ,

Great W. Great timing. Rack 'em up going into November.

Jordan117 ,

Bad timing, IF it depresses pro-choice turnout enough to give Republicans full control of the AZ state legislature (and potentially the federal government) so that they can re-implement this ban or something close to it. Republicans only need 4 state senators and 9 state reps for a veto-proof majority, which they had as recently as 2012. The existence of the ban was expected to juice turnout on the left – hopefully people do not have short memories.

TropicalDingdong ,

The existence of the ban was expected to juice turnout on the left – hopefully people do not have short memories.

Good points and fair. I think its an unanswered question as to the impact that RvW will have on turnout. Very very real possibility of a repeat of 1980, except Blue not Red. I’m not sure polling will model this effectively (in fact I’m highly confident it isn’t / won’t model this component accurately).

Anecdotally, I’ve never seen the conservative women I know so activated to and pretty instantaneously converted to voting D. Prior they always had excuses or reasons for justifying the reason the voted R. 100% conversion rate for the admittedly very small sample size. Its not even really about abortion, its about civil rights, personal liberty. They’ve basically become single issue voters and Roe V Wade is the issue.

I also don’t think the fight in Arizona is over, and nationally this is going to stay in the news. Depends like you said on how short peoples memories are. This is a very losing issue for R’s.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

Hopefully setting a precedent for other states in similar situations. The states need to stop relying on the fed to protect them from radicals and get it done themselves. Their reliance on the fed has allowed extremists to thrive in their state and bleed into local politics.

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Just wait for the extremists to get in fed again. Those states rights are gonna get a whole lot weaker if the states do things the extremists don’t like.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

people on the right love the constitution though. it’ll be tough to get too much past the 10th amendment. no bipartisan support.

Serinus ,

Funny, as soon as the constitution says something they don’t like (such as insurrectionists can’t be president), then suddenly it doesn’t matter because that’s old.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

Lots of cherry picking for sure

runswithjedi ,

Yeah, a women’s right to their body needs to be a constitutional amendment. Whether federal or state, would be great wherever possible.

Wrench ,

Dems need a super majority to amend the constitution, which isn’t happening in our lifetime.

Horsey ,

The situation here is very, very unique. The state is a swing state that has been trending slowly Democratic. When the AZ Supreme Court ruling came out, Democrats began salivating at the thought of a gigantic turnout for the pro abortion ballot initiative. Any smart GOP politician in the state began to shit their pants because abortion rights ballot initiatives could surge the Democratic turnout in all the state political races and could turn AZ dark blue based on this one single issue. The writing is on the wall though… AZ will be a blue state, but it’s not going to happen quickly as long as the GOP doesn’t piss off the state with unpopular policies.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

That’s great news!

Kbobabob ,

The Fed? As in the one that regulates the interest rates?

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

fed gov

Zaktor ,

They quashed a near total ban because a handful of Republicans either didn’t like how extreme it was or didn’t like how difficult it made their reelections. They didn’t seize control and boot out the radicals. Arizona’s radicals enacted a 15 week ban in 2022 that’s now back to being the law of the land.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

Of course nothing changes overnight but it’s progress

Cryophilia ,

This is a win, not a total victory. Enjoy it for what it is, don’t pretend it’s useless.

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