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Badeendje ,
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

A friend bought a Tesla that came with a defective rear window from the factory, they found out when opening the door at home. A tech came out and sealed the door shut so the car could be used. It took 10 months before the car was repaired and the door was usable.

Their next purchase was not a Tesla, future purchases will not be a Tesla ever again. Just by the quality of their product.

Regardless, Musk is a douche nozzle.

sylver_dragon ,

Ya, this is the sort of thing which would keep me from buying Tesla. While Musk’s antics certainly don’t help, everything I hear about Tesla tends to revolve around poor quality control, terrible customer support and long delays in getting problems fixed. Even without Musk, I wouldn’t want any part of that.

HawlSera ,

I feel so smug in the fact that I never liked the guy, never bought into the hype…

I don’t know what’s going to save the human race folks, but it’s not going to be a billionaire in a cock measure contest.

Ultragigagigantic ,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

The charging infrastructure isn’t where it should be if people were really serious about EV.

Soggytoast ,

I see a lot of anti-musk sentiment but didn’t really know why. What happened to piss everyone off? My guess is some autistic ranting on Twitter but that didn’t seem enough

Pissnpink ,

Behind the bastards has some fun rants about him

Quill7513 ,

Search any of the following along with “Elon Musk”:

  1. Transphobia
  2. Abusive workplace
  3. Scam
  4. Libel/Slander
  5. Alt right
  6. Apharteid profiteer
  7. Market manipulation
  8. Replacement conspiracy
  9. Broken contract
Lon3star ,

Yep, and the quality of quite suspect

uis ,

How about avoid buing car?

Numuruzero ,

👍

A_Random_Idiot ,

because I dont want to literally spend 5 hours round trip on a bus, to go to a store thats 20 minutes away by car.

and until public transport, and urban planning improves, cars are gonna be a reality for a lot of people.

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

Public transport needs to become better BEFORE people can get rid of their cars. Until then, cars it is.

uis ,

But there is too little political will to improve PT BEFORE we get rid of cars

Default_Defect ,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

Then how do you expect people that need one or the other to get anywhere in the interim? Can’t exactly pressure my local government if I can’t go to work or eat without using my remaining free time walking everywhere.

uis ,

In 1917 government was pressured just fine

Noedel ,

Maybe lefties boycotting Tesla will cause MAGAs to go electric… Silver lining?

TokenBoomer ,

Saw my first cyber truck today. Looked like a Roblox car. I pointed and laughed, I don’t think the driver was happy.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a32e103e-fa95-4dcf-a201-064a50e963cb.jpeg

When can we get a Xiaomi SU7?

Muscar ,

I deeply want a compilation video of cybertruck owners being shamed in public like that. It would be incredibly satisfying.

dev_null ,

For every person laughing there are 4 people finding it cool, at least that’s what I saw in the MKBHD review.

Makes sense to me - most people in the real world aren’t terminally online, don’t know the Cybertruck exists, and have no idea it has anything to do with Elon Musk. So when seeing one they just have a “wow what an unusual car, that’s interesting” reaction.

AA5B ,

I’m sure you also make personal choices not everyone agrees with. Why all this spite?

Plus, there still really isn’t a compelling EV choice for pickups. Is this unconventional styling really worse than an F-150 $20k+ over the marketed price and where the base version never actually appeared? Is it really worse that the GMC “Ultium is so much better” truck that no one ever sees and they stopped making? Is it worse than the RAM truck “we’re all in in EVs, except for making them”? We need something, anything, to push the truck market, so even if Cybertruck’s style doesn’t succeed, we need them to push other manufacturers

Maybe Rivian is the future, but they’re still too expensive and the company too small. They’re definitely the one to watch

CaptainPedantic ,

That looks like a Porsche Taycan with an Hyundai Ioniq 6 grafted onto its ass. Despite that it looks pretty good.

Duamerthrax ,

I was talking to a fervent Musk fan. He was explaining how much he loved how much Musk was pissing off liberals and how he was such a good businessman. I asked him if would ever buy a Tesla and he said no. I told him that Musk doesn’t sound like a very good businessman.

wahming ,

Did… You just sell a tesla?

Duamerthrax ,

No, there’s no way this guy would ever buy an electric. I just navigated an NPC into a dead end dialogue branch.

MedicPigBabySaver ,

I was moments away from a down payment on pre order on the new 3 series. I forget the exact details of why I didn’t. I am grateful that I bailed out on that plan.

InternetUser2012 ,

I wanted a Tesla and couldn’t afford it. Now I can afford it and I would buy one right now if it weren’t for Musk turning into a complete shit bag. (I realize he always was, but he hid it well and I thought he was an awesome dude) Fuck that guy, and fuck every company he’s a part of. I’ll just wait until conversion parts become cheap enough it’s worth playing with.

jose1324 ,

You’re gonna wait a long time then

AA5B ,

Too many legacy car manufacturers are pushing back against the future, even after Tesla proved it’s here. I’m afraid your choices will be a long painful drag on the future, with protectionism, until the final collapse, and a wave of Chinese products sweeps away the debris of the last industrial age

JasonDJ ,

Tesla didn’t prove shit. Musk was in the right place at the right time. Electric cars were coming regardless. The last thing he deserves credit for is that.

AA5B ,

BS, electric vehicles still aren’t coming, if you look at the legacy manufacturers. They were forced by competition and regulation to make big investments and finally have a small number of a few models. Even with that, they’re retrenching, rather than progressing. It’s been a long time coming, and never would have happened without Tesla proving you could make compelling EVs and sell them at a profit.

US is low on EV adoption but rather than make affordable compelling EVs, legacy manufacturers are backtracking on their announcements, lobbying for protectionism, and trying through courts and lobbying to revert the new efficiency standards. They should be very afraid of BYD’s announced factory in Mexico, which will bypass the protectionism they’re hiding behind

JasonDJ , (edited )

The USs biggest problem with EV isn’t a lack of products. All the big three have EV or PHEV vehicles in their lineups now and they are all really great cars, especially for their price.

The real problem now is infrastructure. Public charging places, charging for apartment dwellers, hell even most older houses only have 100A (or less) service, and some don’t have the option to upgrade (or the upgrade is cost-prohibitive).

You could look at the lack of electric trucks, but trucks here are a status symbol for a certain demographic, and the last thing on that demographics mind is controlling greenhouse gas emissions. Most of them don’t even believe anthropomorphic climate change is real. Until that is fixed, there’s barely any market for them in the first place.

At this point we need sticks. We’ve dangled the carrot of the federal EV credit. Now we need a big tax for new fuel vehicle registrations. Let the the tax scale inversely with EPA MPG. Put that money towards investing in grid upgrades and subsidies for home and multi-dwelling building improvements to better support EVs.

Bytemeister ,

Best indicator I can think of for the near future… At least 4 new gas stations have been built withing 2 miles of my apartment. They wouldn’t be doing that if the industry was poised to switch over to electric in the next 30 years.

aCatNamedVirtute ,

Ha, I really like that 😊

PanArab ,

I’d rather buy a BYD on the low end or a Lucid on the high end, with many of far more interesting EVs all across the range. Not to even get to him as a person which is unappealing.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Or the vast majority of people can not afford Teslas. The die hards have bought them already or have died in them already.

Drukail ,

I bought my first EV last month. I’ve been looking forward to making the switch for 10 years. I would have been happy to buy a Tesla back then (not that there were many options). I didn’t even consider it as an option now because of Musk.

abaddon ,

Same here. Every company sucks in some way but Musk is just the worst. We went with the Mach E and it’s been great so far. Not perfect but a huge improvement for us over ICE.

cybersandwich ,

Same.

My wife just got a new car and a Tesla would have been on our short list 4-5 years ago. We didn’t even consider it now.

Mostly because of musk but also because of their subscription BS, features that don’t transfer if you sell it, and their general failure to deliver on many(all?) of their self driving(and other) promises.

I could have probably talked myself into ignoring most of the shortcomings but with Musk–im not going to touch a Tesla. I don’t want to support that.

My father-in-law just bought a new car and said the same thing.

I’ll probably need a new car in a couple of years and I am excited about all of the other electric vehicles. Rivians, BMWs, etc.

Iampossiblyatwork ,

Same.

We just bought the ev Blazer this weekend. Fuck Tesla.

AA5B ,

From the same company feeding the trolls anti-EV propaganda when Tesla went through their growing pains, and now can’t admit that changing fundamental technology and scaling up can be hard. That Blazer is having all the same quality problems and growing pains people laugh at Tesla over - looks cool though, and was on my list as well

In my case, lack of CarPlay was a big factor against Blazer, although I’m ok with that on my Tesla, because at least they do good software

Iampossiblyatwork ,

Not arguing any of that. The point here is that I find Musk repulsive enough that the Tesla, for all of its superior software, was never even in my decision making process.

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