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Tetra , in 3-year-old accidentally shoots, kills 1-year-old sibling after getting ahold of unsecured handgun: SDSO
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Clearly we need to arm 1 year olds so they can defend themselves

mightysashiman , in 3-year-old accidentally shoots, kills 1-year-old sibling after getting ahold of unsecured handgun: SDSO
@mightysashiman@kbin.social avatar

the 2 common culprits in all these horrible stories are: 1) human stupidity 2) gun proliferation. solving the first would require eugenism. solving the second is a big american no-no. So don’t call it horrible, just live with it. It’s just a normal by-product of american culture.

Ichi_matsu ,

IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no, so we’re back to square one.

Buelldozer ,
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IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no

No it’s not. For all of their ills, stupidity, nonsense, fraud, and extremely questionable decisions the NRA does run education campaigns with their “Eddie Eagle” program. A big problem is that it has been kicked out of schools, especially schools in Blue States, so they’re unable to reach one of the audiences that need it the most.

It’s like Red States kicking Sex Education out of schools and being shocked at teen pregnancies. Education works far better than restriction. Always.

rikudou ,

it has been kicked out of schools

So, as @Ichi_matsu said, it’s a big no-no for Americans.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.world avatar

I hadn’t thought of it quite that way but I suppose so. American’s do seem to have a nasty habit of not wanting to teach our children about things we don’t like.

BeMoreCareful ,

Yeah, I’m not sure eugenics is ever the answer

Wtf?

damnYouSun ,

Why would the gun be loaded? At the very least the gun and the ammo should be separated.

Burninator05 ,

You are 100% correct but that loops is back to #1.

Jaded ,

The better question is why was a handgun needed? People shouldn’t buy deadly weapons for fun.

MasterObee ,

Anything is a deadly weapon in the right situation.

rikudou ,

Ok, I’m waiting for you to kill me with a maple leaf.

MasterObee ,

Do you not think that someone can die from choking on a maple leaf?

rikudou ,

Possibly in the rarest of circumstances. Doesn’t sound like a deadly weapon, though. And I’ve never heard of such case.

On the other hand, quick search shows these headlines:

  • 1-year-old boy accidentally shot by 4-year-old brother in Texas
  • 7-year-old accidentally shoots and kills 5-year-old in Kentucky
  • Jacksonville police: Boy, 8, accidentally shoots, kills sister, 5, injures neighbor, 4
  • ’Another tragic story’: 3-year old girl accidentally shoots and kills 4-year-old sister in Houston
  • Family grieves after daughter accidentally shot to death by 7-years-old brother
  • 10-year-old charged with accidentally shooting his 12-year-old brother
  • 14-year-old boy accidentally shoots brother, 8, outside Oklahoma Walmart
  • Police: 14-Year-Old ‘Accidentally Shoots’ 12-Year-Old Brother In Choctaw
  • 5-year-old accidentally shoots, kills little sister in Indiana

This is just the first page of results and all of that is from 2023.

So, were you saying something about choking on maple leaves?

MasterObee ,

I’ll keep asking the same question -

If these were knife accidents, would you support banning knives?

This sounds like parental neglect, and should be treated as such. The tool doesn’t matter, it’s the fact the parents neglected the safety of their kids.

rikudou ,

And from now on I’ll keep ignoring you unless you ask a different question, because I already answered that one.

MasterObee ,

You didn’t answer the question. It’s really simple:

If these were knife accidents, would you support banning knives?

You_are_dust ,

I normally would not interject in this type of conversation, but your question about the knives keeps coming up and seems to imply people don’t have knives. I can almost guarantee every home in the USA has at least one sharp knife. These aren’t knife accidents and everyone has a knife in the house. Not every house has a gun. The knife question only makes sense if knives weren’t even more common household items then guns.

hypelightfly ,

Wait, what happened to the maple leaf? That's not the same question.

borkcorkedforks ,

Most people buy a handgun like that for self-defense. Likely because they don't expect the cops to show up and protect them. And there isn't anything wrong with owning something dangerous if it's property secured and used safely. These parents were negligent.

PoliticalAgitator ,

Most gun safety in America is optional.

Buelldozer ,
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TIEPilot ,

Not if your concerned about personal safety. I don’t live in the best neighborhood. So the time to slide in 12ga rounds might cost me my life.

youtu.be/AItWcBU-NEA?t=238

All my others are in safes and the ammo is not easily accessible.

borkcorkedforks ,

Separating ammo isn't actually securing the firearm though. Loaded or unloaded it should still be property secured. And you can safely store a fire loaded if the firearm is actually in some kind of safe. The parents were simply negligent.

hypelightfly ,

Solving the first would require the end of human existence. You can't breed out stupidity, eugenics doesn't solve anything.

madcaesar , in AAA pulls back from offering insurance in Florida, following Farmers

If only the gays would stop marrying the hurricanes would stop and premiums would be lower! - Florida republican voter, probably

acunasdaddy ,

It’s the fault of the trans athletes and books that use the word “gay”!

HeavenAndHell ,
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Not probably, they have been on record saying so.

orphiebaby ,
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Our Baptists in Illinois when I was a kid blamed 2000s hurricanes on “sin” such as gay marriage, so that’s correct.

(In case you are wondering, I am no longer Christian— let alone Baptist. I am agnostic theist though!)

Raphael ,
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If the hurricanes had guns this wouldn’t be happening.

kamen , in The temperature in China hit 52.2°C (126°F)

“Global warming is a lie”

MisterD ,

Don’t look up

InternetTubes , in The temperature in China hit 52.2°C (126°F)

And people thought I was kidding when I wondered a few years ago when we would have to face the problem of not even being able to drive due to melting tires from the heat.

loudWaterEnjoyer ,
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The melting point of rubber tires is around 371°C or 700°F

Pumpkinbot ,

They soften much earlier, though. And there’s also the friction of moving against the road.

agissilver ,

We can change the rubber formulation so the Tg shifts up or down. This is actually part of the difference in winter and summer tires.

hup ,
@hup@lemmy.world avatar

They start to lose integrity around 200⁰C or 390⁰F… we’ll be dead long before our tires randomly soften to the poi t rhey deform.

But you’re right that friction under even slightly higher heat means they’ll wear out significantly quicker. Drivers might need to change them every 1-2 years instead of 3-5, as a hypothetical.

Malfeasant ,

I live in the Phoenix area. Every summer, as it starts to heat up (so like april…) you start seeing the tire debris everywhere, and the higher frequency of cars pulled over with flat tires… Heat is absolutely a factor in premature tire failure, whether or not the rubber is literally melting.

hup ,
@hup@lemmy.world avatar

I mean of course some people don’t change their tires when they’re supposed to, or continue driving on flat tires to get to move their vehicle from the place it originally went flat. So sure when not being used as designed, of course there is a bias towards rubber tearing in the triple digits instead. If you’re not an idiot driving on safety hazards it’s extremely unlikely.

AnyProgressIsGood ,

crop failure will be a big issue. cant grow corn or apples indoors. Hope yall like… lettuce.

scottywh ,

Lettuce is a luxury food with very little nutrition and high water requirements…

Chances are good that the majority won’t retain access to it for very long really since it will make the most sense to grow something more efficient.

OnlyAStarOnlyTheSea ,

Potatoes. You don’t need a lot of light and they grow from the sprouts of old potatoes. They do need some water though. Same with other root vegetables like carrots and sweet potatoes. But I’ve never managed to get a sweet potato to grow. Carrots and potatoes and tomatoes grow good in the fall and winter in az. Now I’m just trying to figure out what to grow to can for the summer months.

Neutral_Minion , in French authorities ban protest against police violence in Paris

Oh boy that’s going to go over well

stopthatgirl7 , in Minnesota mayor faces pressure to resign or meet LGBTQ+ group's demands after his comments on Pride
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As always, ain’t no hate like Christian “love.”

MicroWave OP , in Tesla directors agree to return $735m to settle claims they were grossly overpaid
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Tesla Inc’s directors will return $735m to the company to settle claims they grossly overpaid themselves in one of the largest shareholder settlements of its kind, according to a Monday filing in a Delaware court.

veng , in The temperature in China hit 52.2°C (126°F)

It’s strange - in the UK we’re usually getting toasty this time of year too, but we’ve had unusually mild weather despite many other parts of the world experiencing record temperatures. Feels like the mildest summer we’ve had in about 10 years.

megasin1 ,

This might be because we’re in an ill niño weather event. This brings hot coast to the southern hemisphere particularly South America. And it means the North is cooler particularly north Europe and Canada. This will flip back and forth over the years

agissilver ,

ill niño

Must be summer 1999 🤘

SCB ,

It’s Spanish for… The nino.

gamer , (edited )

Don’t be illin’

EDIT: for the record in case you actually didn’t notice the typo, it’s spelled “EL niño”, not “ILL niño”

Uli , in Tesla directors pay $735M to settle claims they overpaid themselves

Reminds me of that time I gave my houseguests free pairs of shoelaces from my second-hand shoelace collection to settle claims that I was taking the shoelaces from everyone’s shoes.

Th4tGuyII , in Most Brits reckon Brexit has failed, new poll finds
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Slightly less than 50% of the country could've told you that was gonna happen before we were forced through the motions.

Should've been common sense that blocking ourselves off from easy access to trade with our primary trade partners was a bad idea, even more so when you consider the privileged position we had in the EU based on our former standing as a world superpower that we were tossing away for nothing.

Xeelee ,
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But a lot of those people didn't go and vote.

Th4tGuyII ,
@Th4tGuyII@kbin.social avatar

I'm referring to the ~48% of remain voters that did turn out.

Not counting those that didn't vote (if thry could) because they're arguably more ignorant than the Brexiteers, complaining now when they didn't speak up back then.

beesyrup , in 3-year-old accidentally shoots, kills 1-year-old sibling after getting ahold of unsecured handgun: SDSO
@beesyrup@lemmy.world avatar

This is horrible.

Kolanaki , in French authorities ban protest against police violence in Paris
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French authorities confirmed that a protest against police violence set to take place in Paris on Saturday could not go ahead due to police shortages.

“We don’t have enough cops to commit violence on everyone protesting so we have cancelled the protest.”

Whirlybird , in Iowa judge temporarily halts 6-week abortion law

6 weeks is dumb because often people won’t even know they’re pregnant at that stage. 20 weeks is fair so hopefully they go back to that.

Viking_Hippie ,

Infinity weeks is fair since it’s nobody’s business except that of the woman and her doctor.

Whirlybird ,

Nah.

For arguments sake - would you be ok with an abortion at 39 weeks? 40 weeks?

Viking_Hippie ,

Stupid question since no abortions are performed that late, making it a hypothetical with no basis in reality.

Whirlybird ,

But you just said “infinity weeks”? If it were legal up at any stage you can bet your arse it would happen at 39 weeks at least once, 40 too. So again - would you be ok with people having abortions at 40 weeks? Don’t deflect, answer the question. I want us all to see you confirm that you’re ok with aborting a full term baby.

Viking_Hippie , (edited )

Notice how I specifically said “and her doctor”? That wasn’t for funsies. At or near term, doctors will induce birth or perform a c-section, not an abortion.

It’s a medical procedure and as such hypotheticals WAY outside of standard practice to the point that the doctor would lose their licence in any modern country are as irrelevant as arguing about whether it should be allowed for doctors to remove a healthy spleen just because they’re bored.

Whirlybird ,

You said “infinity weeks”. If you actually meant “less than 30 or so weeks” why didn’t you say that? “Infinity” and “less than 30” are very different.

Viking_Hippie ,

I didn’t mean less than 30 or so weeks, I meant infinity weeks within common medical practice. Which number of weeks you want to apply as an absolute isn’t the important part, the medical expertise is.

You seem to have the reading comprehension and knowledge about female reproductive medicine of either an elementary school boy or an average Republican congressman, whichever is slightly worse than the other.

Whirlybird ,

I meant infinity weeks within common medical practice.

So by “infinity” you meant “less than 30”. Infinity is literally the worst, most incorrect word that you could have used in this situation. You criticising my reading comprehension is a hoot based on your poor choice of words that mean one thing but you’re using them to mean something else. Even an elementary school kid knows not to use infinity when they mean “less than 30”. You seem to have the same amount of communication skills as an average Democratic congressman.

stringere ,

Nope. They meant there should be no absolute one-size-fits-all number of weeks. There should be no weeks because it is a medical decision between the patient and doctor. They will not provide a number of weeks because the number of weeks is no one’s business but the patient and doctor.

Whirlybird ,

They will not provide a number of weeks because the number of weeks is no one’s business but the patient and doctor.

So I’ll ask you - do you think someone should be able to get an abortion at 40 weeks?

stringere ,

Fuck off with your hypotheticals because pro-life cunts are inflicting real life pain:

rollingstone.com/…/texas-abortion-ban-forced-birt…

Whirlybird ,

Answer the question.

RetroEvolute , in Evergrande: Crisis-hit Chinese property giant reveals $81bn loss
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81 BILLION dollars is a lot of motherfucking money.

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