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TheKarion , in Board votes to change Concord High School's mascot to be more inclusive

But… Why?

magnetosphere , (edited ) in Police who fatally shot a pregnant woman are sued by her family in Colorado
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Snelling added that the agency later discovered Thompson had warrants out for her arrest and the autopsy found illicit drugs in her system.

Man, I hate it when the cops bring up this irrelevant bullshit. All they’re trying to do is make the victim look less sympathetic, and make themselves look less bad in comparison. Even if the officers had known about the warrants and drugs, these facts don’t make it okay to gun a woman down.

meco03211 ,

I wish reporters would flip this on the cops. “Two officers, with no active warrants, killed a woman.”

magnetosphere ,
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Ha ha ha! I would LOVE that!

sawdustprophet ,
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I wish reporters would flip this on the cops. “Two officers, with no active warrants, killed a woman.”

I’ve seen this headline a few times.

Diurnambule ,

Two officers, with two active affairs for abuse of power, killed a women

Slwh47696 ,

“Two racist, wife beating police officers murdered a woman”

sudo ,

racist, wife beating

police

What’s with the redundancy?

n3m37h ,

I mean this applies to the military too, so there is that distinction

afraid_of_zombies ,

Go even further.

Two officers, one of which had 7 public complaints in their file, killed an unarmed pregnant women

GBU_28 ,

Unfortunately if they write like this they get no more tips from the police. So they act out of self interest and always write middling headlines

reverendsteveii ,

Remember when a cop broke into Botham Jean’s apartment and shot him in the face while he was sitting on his own couch eating ice cream? Remember when afterward they had a press conference to show off the <1 gram of marijuana they found just in case that made him a bad person who deserved to die.

TWeaK ,

It’s not irrelevant at all. It’s likely the reason she didn’t identify herself, which in turn led the police to believe she was their robbery suspect. Outstanding warrants and drugs wouldn’t justify gunning her down, but a robber is much more likely to go on and hurt or kill someone.

CaptPretentious ,

Or, the constant barrage of videos thanks to people having smartphones where we see cops regularly exploiting their position and maiming and killing random innocent people. Might also be a decent reason why somebody may not want to just get ol buddy buddy with the police.

I mean I for one have seen more cops kill innocent people in videos than I saw people die on rotten.com.

Rivalarrival ,

When I have an arrest warrant out against me, I contact the courts and figure out what I need to do to get the judge to withdraw it. Most likely, they just give me a court date. They might ask me to go to the courthouse and sign for service of a summons.

I do this, because I know that if I don’t do it on my own volition, I’m going to have cops and/or bounty hunters explaining the steps they had to take to arrest me, and that judge is then going to consider their testimony during my bail hearing. The more I run, evade, hide, or fight, the less likely I’ll be released on my own recognizance, and the higher my bail.

That’s the expectation in our society. We avail ourselves of the justice system. We demand that our case proceed out of the police station and into the courts as quickly as possible.

It’s rather dumb to try to run from the police, but arrest warrants aren’t issued by the police. You’ve got to be tragically stupid to try to run from a judge.

TopRamenBinLaden ,

It’s only felony warrants that bounty hunters and cops really pursue. You aren’t being hunted for not showing up to court for a misdemeanor. Also, I have personally known people that have waited out their warrants. They seem to disappear in most states after about 7-10 years.

Rivalarrival ,

Whether police are actively searching for me or not is completely irrelevant. They might show up at my home at any time. They might show up at my workplace. Any contact with the police triggers almost certainly triggers arrest: Being pulled over at a traffic stop. Being involved in a vehicle collision. Being attacked by a criminal. Witnessing a crime. Kids get lost, can’t find their way home, and police return them. Neighbor complains about noise.

Or, as in this case, being mistaken for a suspect.

No, I’m not going to spend 7-10 years of my life looking over my shoulder to avoid a misdemeanor warrant that carries nothing more than a small fine or community service. No reasonable person would. That’s just stupid.

She would have been arrested after this stop, not for the crime they initially and reasonably suspected, but on the warrant. She knew that, even if they didn’t. She decided to mash on the accelerator of a 3000lb vehicle in the presence of officers on foot. She decided that endangering the lives and bodies of police officers was a reasonable and acceptable course of action. She decided that aggravated vehicular assault of police was preferable to paying a fine and performing some community service.

The expected standard of behavior is that she contact the court and clear up the warrant on her terms. She chose instead to ram a police cruiser and multiple officers with her car.

She was no Breonna Taylor. She was no Philando Castile. She had full control over the situation, and chose felonious acts of violence in an attempt to avoid the courts.

I can empathize with her position, but I have no sympathy.

altima_neo ,
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Yeah they had no reasonable suspicion to target her.

Zengen ,

Running from the police with an active arrest warrant while your high is pretty relevant lol

Kase ,

Afaik, running from the police also isn’t a reason for them to gun someone down.

LEDZeppelin , in Lyft and Uber say they will leave Minneapolis if the mayor signs a minimum wage bill for drivers

“Allow us to exploit the labor or we will leave the market”

Same excuse since the dawn of slavery

OldWoodFrame , in Belarus would use nuclear weapons in the event of 'aggression,' Lukashenko says | CNN

I’d be shocked if they actually had the capacity to fire the nuclear weapons Russia gave them.

That was the whole situation in Ukraine in 1994, Ukraine had them as part of the Soviet Union, they gave them to Russia in return for a promise from Russia to not use military force against them (whoops). Seems like a bad deal for Ukraine until you realize that they weren’t able to fire those weapons, the control was still in Moscow so it wasn’t like they could be used for national defense.

betterdeadthanreddit ,

I’m inclined to agree with you but there’s a remote chance the puppet state of Belarus has the capability to launch. If they do, Russia can try to go for a facade of, if not innocence (that ship has sailed), less-than-complete guilt. Can’t imagine that anyone would buy it though.

Buddahriffic ,

Yeah, I’ve thought the same with North Korea and their nukes. China and Russia might just see them as an entity that might nuke their enemies to hurt them but without the destruction capability that might trigger a MAD style “launch everything in response!” while they themselves can keep the MAD facade up (and I’m skeptical about MAD because I don’t think many with the power to launch will make the decision that it’s time to end civilization as we know it, though a nuclear exchange could likely escalate to that eventually even if it didn’t immediately).

But I also don’t think such a facade would hold up with Belarus. Maybe North Korea could be argued to be independent enough from China and Russia that a launch from them shouldn’t automatically be considered something that Xi and Putin both signed off on. But Lukashenko is only in power because Russia keeps him there and even if he can order a launch, if Putin didn’t support one, he’d probably kill him himself if he can get to him quicker than NATO can. That might be the only reason NATO wouldn’t go all out instantly, just to see how Russia reacts to decide if it’s a “end Belarus and hope it doesn’t kick off ww3” or a “welp, ww3 just started” scenario.

Kangie ,

until you realize that they weren’t able to fire those weapons, the control was still in Moscow

That’s not a showstopper. It’s just an issue of ‘how long it takes to retrofit/remove PALs’

Captain_Jimmy_T_Kirk , in Nurse Lucy Letby guilty of murdering seven babies on neonatal unit
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What an irredeemable monster.

Kuro , in Lyft and Uber say they will leave Minneapolis if the mayor signs a minimum wage bill for drivers

Oh no, they’ll have to pay their employees half the cost of living…

… Anyways

reverendsteveii , in 'Hell on wheels': Teen convicted of crashing car at 100 mph, killing boyfriend and friend

Anyone with a legal background able to help me understand how two deaths resulted in 4 murder convictions and 2 vehicular homicide convictions?

Prethoryn ,
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Not a lawyer but I believe the charges can be sub cats of murder and homicide.

I would have to double check.

Ullallulloo ,
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I can say she was convicted of two counts of both R.C. 2903.02(A) & (B)—basically “normal” murder and felony murder. Clearly they thought she did it on purpose and because she was committing another felony. I can’t say why those don’t merge together under Ohio law or if they are supposed to. Ohio is a fairly statutory state, so maybe they overwrite that common law rule?

reverendsteveii ,

Okay, felony murder makes sense as the other charges would be felonies. I don’t care much for felony murder laws because I feel like they deincentivize careful action in law enforcement, but I definitely understand where if that law is in place she caught murder for the actual murder then felony murder subsequent to the assaults.

Still feels weird that two dead people produced 6 homicide convictions though. Like, you killed them, that’s 2 crimes. You killed them with a car, that’s two more crimes. In the process of killing them with a car, which is a felony, you killed them. That’s two more crimes.

Hank , in Nurse Lucy Letby guilty of murdering seven babies on neonatal unit

This is what the left wants.

ChocoboRocket ,

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  • Hank , (edited )

    Unlike you with your ability to perfectly sense sarcasm every single time.

    Edit: The commenter called me an idiot. I'm disappointed that a harmless comment like that got deleted. They're entitled to think so and also to let me know how they feel when I make the conscious decision to make a controversial statement on a public forum.

    rustyfish , (edited )
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    You seem to be new to the internet. Please check out Poe’s Law.

    This way you won’t sound like one of the dumbasses who actually believe that shite you wrote.

    Edit: Is it just me or is Memmy fucking up my links? The Wikipedia link got redirected to Edgar Allan Poe and the UD link ended up in Poe stuff too.

    Edit2: Ok, you deleted your comment before I could reply. So, you are just an edgelord. What a waste of time you are.

    Ertebolle ,

    You accused your political opponents of supporting baby-murdering... sarcastically?

    Norgur ,

    funny joke, haha.

    Hank ,

    They also all have young male prostitutes in their basement that they torture for fun.

    HopeOfTheGunblade ,
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    You want to unpack that for us?

    Hank ,

    /s

    HopeOfTheGunblade ,
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    Yeah, unfortunately that wasn't obvious, since I've seen literally exactly these words with intent behind them in other comments. As rustyfish pointed out, Poe's Law is the law of the land; text doesn't come with tone.

    JustZ ,
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    I think the person is suggesting that the mother is delusional and therefore so must have been the daughter. Not sure.

    Norgur , (edited )

    Yeah... exactly... except that I've never seen an embryo in neonatal care. Wonder if there's a reason for that, Mr. "let's make the horrific murder of born babies in the UK about fucking bipartisan US-Bullshit-Politics"
    Gosh, I hate those people.

    Edit: If you lot in New Religioustan as a society want to let women die because AbOrTiOnS aRe BaD.... that's your perogative. Your fucked up perogative, but your perogative. But... like... leave the rest of us alone, perhaps? You know... the part of the world where one upping "the other side" isn't the whole deal in politics and the politicians with a hint of a soul get a say sometimes... We like our human rights and our actual freedom intact, thank you very much.

    DillonBrooksEnjoyer ,

    It’s naive to think the UK is somehow immune to the polarization we suffer in American politics.

    Norgur ,

    Oh, first of all: I'm not only talking about the UK, but in this setting that reduction is understandable
    Secondly: No, of course no place in the world is immune to this shit. None. But right now, many places in the world are not struggling with this shit at the same level and hopefully never will, so no need to infect each and every talk on the internet with US-Politics and the dire and gloomy things that go on over there.

    Hank ,

    I'm actually German and it seems like you got a little bit bamboozled. Thank you for your participation.

    SaakoPaahtaa ,

    German humour ladies and gentlemen🙌

    HipPriest ,

    I'm pretty certain people in Chester don't want their babies being murdered in hospital regardless of which party they vote for.

    What on earth are you on about?

    Hank ,

    Just some classical trolling for nostalgias sake. Thank you for your participation.

    HipPriest ,

    Well no offence but I've got family in Chester so you can fuck off

    Hank ,

    So you'd be ok with my statement if you didn't have family in Chester? Weird statement but ok. Also better watch your language, someone else's comment got deleted for calling me an idiot.
    Have a nice weekend.

    DarkThoughts ,

    This is what the left wants.

    You are so fucked in the head that you literally use the murder of babies to push your dumbass political agenda.

    Hank ,

    If you read into the follow up comments you'd realise that I'm making fun of those you accuse me to be a part of.

    DarkThoughts ,

    Same difference, sorry.

    solstice , in Sweden raises its terror threat level to high for fear of attacks following recent Qur'an burnings

    Religious texts are just about the only books I support burning, especially if the intent is to piss off the morons that think the books are true.

    How can I make a donation to buy more korans and kerosene for them?

    girlfreddy , in Police who fatally shot a pregnant woman are sued by her family in Colorado
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    @MicroWave

    They murdered her because they thought she was a shoplifter?????

    In what universe did it become ok to murder anyone for shoplifting???????

    always and forever

    magnetosphere , (edited )
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    But… but… she used a knife! She backed into an inanimate object! That made her an immediate, deadly threat!

    Edit: that was sarcasm, folks. Jeez.

    girlfreddy ,
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    @magnetosphere @MicroWave

    Pretty much. 😠

    magnetosphere ,
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    See edit

    girlfreddy ,
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    @magnetosphere @MicroWave

    My apologies. I was agreeing with your sarcasm but should have made that more clear.

    Sorry you're taking the rap for my lack of clarity.

    magnetosphere ,
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    These things happen. No worries. Thanks!

    be_excellent_to_each_other , (edited )
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    Doesn't matter how small the crime is or how unthreatening the suspect is. Failure to comply is cause for any and all escalation.

    "Ready for the pop? Here comes the pop!" Cops laugh, fist-bump while rewatching bodycam video of their dislocating shoulder of 73 y.o. woman with dementia

    We heard about that first when it happened, and nothing at all was done when it was just some old lady hurt. (edit: Even with bodycam) THEN the laughing video came out a few days later and THEN the public outcry ramped up enough they had no choice. Only then was there any action against those officers.

    magnetosphere ,
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    see edit

    be_excellent_to_each_other ,
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    My reply wasn't intended for you directly, was replying to the overall point from the other commenter, but thank you for clarifying!

    magnetosphere ,
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    Oh, okay. Thanks!

    magnetosphere ,
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    I am very appreciative of the fact that we had a misunderstanding but kept it civil, unlike on The Site That Shall Not Be Named, where it would have brought out the worst. Man, that place was awful. I love the fediverse!

    sociablefish ,

    The Site That Shall Not Be Named

    Assuming that the site name satisfies /R.{4}t/i, Lemmy < centralized [The Site That Shall Not Be Named] replacements < The Site That Shall Not Be Named

    MicroWave OP , in Little Rock schools will allow African American class to count for graduation, in break from Arkansas state officials
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    Little Rock is newsworthy because of its historical significance in the Civil Rights era:

    The Little Rock School district includes Central High School, the scene of a pivotal moment in the Civil Rights era. In 1957, nine Black students enrolled to test the landmark Brown vs. Board of Education ruling that declared segregated public schools unconstitutional. On their first day of school, the students were met with an angry White mob that rejected integrated schools and the National Guard blocking the entrance.

    “We are fortunate to have one of the foremost subject matter experts leading the instruction at Central High School who has expressed that her students are enthusiastic about the opportunity to take the course,” the district said. “AP African American Studies will allow students to explore the complexities, contributions, and narratives that have shaped the African American experience throughout history, including Central High School’s integral connection.”

    MicroWave OP , in Fulton County Sheriff's Office investigating threats to grand jurors who voted on Trump indictment
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    To help keep track of what’s going on

    After the indictment was unsealed, users on social media, including far-right platforms like 4chan, began to call for violence against the grand jurors and Willis, the group Advance Democracy Inc. found. The organization, which monitored the response to Trump’s indictment in Georgia, identified one post on the platform X, formerly known as Twitter, that included photos of some of the grand jury members.

    The indictment against Trump in Fulton County is the fourth returned by grand juries this year. In addition to the criminal charges in Georgia, the former president is also facing federal charges in South Florida and Washington, D.C., the latter of which stem from alleged attempts to stop the transfer of presidential power after the 2020 election. Trump has also been indicted by the district attorney in Manhattan on 34 state felony counts of falsifying business records.

    Trebach ,

    So there's little chance they'd even join their savior in prison because he could die in federal prison before ever being sent to a state prison.

    Saneless ,

    Sounds good when can we start

    SeaJ , in Lyft and Uber say they will leave Minneapolis if the mayor signs a minimum wage bill for drivers

    Considering they are not really any cheaper than taxis, no biggie.

    SheeEttin ,

    They’re much nicer, though. That’s why they’ve been successful.

    Stinkywinks , in Georgia school board fires teacher for reading a book to students about gender identity

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  • CapnMoisesBKind , in Belarus would use nuclear weapons in the event of 'aggression,' Lukashenko says | CNN

    I didn’t know they have any.

    DigitalTraveler42 ,

    Russia recently shifted some into Belarus, I think like 3 months ago or so.

    reuters.com/…/belarus-has-started-taking-delivery…

    DarkThoughts ,

    Allegedly.

    JustZ ,
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    Read article.

    CapnMoisesBKind ,

    I just want to foster conversation man. This platform needs it. And God knows I need the interaction from someone other than a bot.

    You’re one of those “just google it” types right? Who thinks just saying it makes you do good?

    JustZ ,
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    Nah I appreciate that but you’re not going to spark much without reading the articles you’re commenting on, right?

    CapnMoisesBKind ,

    I sparked much commenting elsewhere though. Atleast I tried right?

    I made you comment right?

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