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Riccosuave , in An unarmed Black man was attacked by a police K-9 dog despite surrendering with his hands in the air
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Good thing they brutally assaulted an unarmed truck driver with an animal, Roman Gladiator style, for driving down the highway without a mud flap on a truck he doesn’t even own while working for a company that probably pays him just above minimum wage.

This kind of behavior will never change unless the monetary awards that go to victims of police brutality start coming directly out of police pensions rather than tax payer dollars. Second, they need to tie police unions to the local city or state labor unions so that they get the same collective bargaining as every other public servant, and see how fast it kills the “thin blue line” mentality.

instamat ,

Agreed, we have to start hitting them where it hurts the most and that’s in the pockets. Their pockets, not the taxpayers.

LexiconDexicon ,

Yeah, getting the people to pay damages isn’t stopping the problem, actually applying justice to cops who abuse authority would however, but it seems like only in rare cases is justice ever served in that regard

Riccosuave , (edited )
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I think it needs to be a multi-pronged approach:

  • There need to be financial penalties that affect entire departments so that officers are encouraged to self-police, and root out bad actors who are negatively affecting their own livelihoods. This could then be backed up by a citizen review board where officers wages or pensions are not collectively sanctioned if they can reasonably demonstrate that they attempted to report abusive or unethical behavior, but it went unacknowledged by management or senior staff.
  • All individual State & Local police unions need to be folded together with the normal labor unions for State, City, or County workers. This accomplishes two things: it removes the power of individual collective bargaining where they can hold those jurisdictions hostage at the expense of all the other employees, and it also makes them part of the community of workers & citizens that they SHOULD be representing. Until we make a structural change back towards community policing where there is a strong emphasis on improving public relations, listening to public feedback, and focusing on issues that are impacting the people in their communities we will continue to have this artificial separation of ethical priorities where police operate as an enforcement arm of the government rather than an integral part of a communities’ social welfare & safety net.
  • Lastly, I agree with your sentiment that police should be held to the same standard criminally and ethically as any other private citizen. We can no longer allow there to be this veil of ignorance where we turn a blind eye to the violence that is perpetrated by police, and where their behavior is just written off as being “part of the job”. Getting to that point requires strong leadership with an emphasis on continuing training, education, and resource management that is directed more towards accomplishing community goals rather than buying surplus military equipment.

All of these things are going to be difficult, and it is likely that we will have to suffer the consequences of our inaction & complacency. Many police will quit their jobs, like we have seen in Seattle for example, and it will take a long time to get better quality officers who care about doing their duty in a humane way. I have doubts about whether or not most people are willing to suffer these short term consequences in order to build a more positive future for the profession. Only time will tell, but I for one would rather start that journey rather than burying our heads in the sand and kicking the can down the road for another generation or more…

LexiconDexicon ,

That was a very sensible post and I agree with your points, it would make a vast difference. I felt like in many ways this was tried in the 90’s but I could be misremembering, however it did seem like an era of Police Reform that sadly backtracked after 9/11 and Bush

Riccosuave ,
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I can’t really speak to what policing was like in the 90’s because I was just a bit too young to remember. I totally agree that things changed for the worse after 9/11, and seem to have both regressed as well as becoming more visible due to the internet.

I don’t claim to have all the answers, and I am by no means anti-police. I respect that it is an incredibly difficult job that taxes the psyche of those who choose to pursue that career path. There needs to be a mutual respect, and strategy between the population and its public servants. It is just a microcosm of the major societal problems we are wrestling with in the United States more broadly.

I wish people would put a greater emphasis on pursuing well-being through creative problem solving rather than focusing on partisan politics or the “culture war”. If we could start by focusing on issues where there is positive public sentiment rather than hyper-focusing on small ideological differences I think most people would realize that their differences don’t really matter as much as they thought. I choose to be cautiously optimistic that we can get there.

Cobrachickenwing ,

End qualified immunity is a must to get any of the above started.

Sigma_ , in 2 female hikers found dead in a Nevada state park amid heat wave

Deserts are no joke. The great read of the missing Germans exemplifies the danger of these areas.

Kaliax , (edited )

I got it to work, thanks for sharing this!

WashedOver ,
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Try it now. I just read it all. It might have been bogged down with too much traffic earlier as I suspect it’s hosted on a old server plan.

astral_avocado ,
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Hikes and walking are apparently irresistible to Germans, to the point where they regularly die in volcanos in Guatemala. Not surprising lol

kmartburrito ,

Great read, thanks for sharing

Mylemmyaccount ,

Thanks for sharing, this was a fascinating read!

HBK ,
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Fantastic read, thanks for sharing!!!

AnarchistArtificer ,

I read through all of that, but I still can’t fathom how large and hostile a place like that is. It doesn’t help that the largest place I’ve hiked is the Yorkshire Dales

Razzmadazz ,

Well that’s an hour of my life gone

An hour well spent thanks for the link!

Polydextrous , in An unarmed Black man was attacked by a police K-9 dog despite surrendering with his hands in the air

“American cops once again pull the classic ‘American Cop’.”

lemmyshmemmy , in 2 female hikers found dead in a Nevada state park amid heat wave

This is just the beginning.

We need to act to mitigate and adapt to climate change now

mikeyBoy14 ,

And also stop goes for hikes in the middle of a heat wave.

JoumanaKayrouz ,
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Also we need to stop racism, but like racism, climate change has little to do with this story

ManosTheHandsOfFate ,
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You know what people do in countries with lots of really hot weather? They take a siesta during the hottest part of the day because that’s just smart.

SeaJ ,

Ah yes. Increasing heatwaves obviously have nothing to do with climate change.

JoumanaKayrouz ,
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Climate change caused the weather, yes, but it didn’t make these people go out hiking in dangerous heat.

StarManta ,

The beginning was like 15-20 years ago.

lemmyshmemmy ,

I mean the complex, long-term effects climate change will have on the Earth. We’re locked into change for the foreseeable future. At some point the temperature can stabilize, but the cascading impacts will continue for centuries even after it does.

So… we’re just at the beginning.

foggy ,

… like 70

mob ,

Pretty sure since the beginning of written history, wandering into the desert has never been portrayed as a safe activity, especially in the middle of a heat wave.

Climate change is real, but that’s like saying someone froze to death in the Artic due to climate change.

lemmyshmemmy ,

The broader context is that hundreds are now dying annually from heat in Nevada. Many people will die from heat waves, not to mention severe weather, flooding, famine, and human conflict caused by resource shortages.

mikeyBoy14 ,

Man, Lemmy is savage with its downvotes.

PugJesus , in An unarmed Black man was attacked by a police K-9 dog despite surrendering with his hands in the air
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“Do not release the dog with his hands up,” a state trooper warns several times from a distance.

I love (/s) both that the local cops needed to be told that, and that in addition, the local cops still didn't fucking listen. The bar is on the floor and they still manage to limbo under it.

ZombieMatrix ,

I especially like that the state police gave a lawful order to the lesser division, the lesser division ignored it and faced zero repercussions apparently. That cop should have immediately been arrested. ACAB

PugJesus ,
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Obviously the overall issue of incompetence and pigheadedness and probable sadism remains, but I don't think state troopers have authority over local police.

instamat ,

I think you’re right, state doesn’t have authority over local. Regardless, they’re all dickheads.

altima_neo ,
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I dont think it works like that, but regardless, cops are high on their ego and will not listen to anyone who isnt their supervisor, even if what theyre being told is logical.

Son_of_dad , in An unarmed Black man was attacked by a police K-9 dog despite surrendering with his hands in the air

Using dogs on people is some barbaric, ancient world cruelty. It’s also animal abuse. It’s insane that we still use dogs to maul humans.

aeternum ,

yeah, but he was clearly resisting. /s

FlyingSquid ,
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He should have just complied!

Wait, he was complying?

Well he should have just complied harder!

PaulDevonUK , in An unarmed Black man was attacked by a police K-9 dog despite surrendering with his hands in the air
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I am sick of hearing about these stories from all over the world. No, wait…

orphiebaby , (edited )
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I’m not defending the US. But…

Asian countries like Russia and China censor. You don’t hear stories from Arabic countries, India, or northern South America I presume because they hardly have reporters and the rest of the world (wrongfully) wouldn’t care anyway.

Most of the rest of the world also doesn’t have a history of African-descendant slavery; but racism, classism, and sexism are still common in most places in the world. Religious persecution too. You do hear about that stuff if you know where to read.

DonJefe , in Spanish election: Sánchez holds off right surge
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Los fascistas no pasarán!

carl_dungeon , in Russia launches criminal probe into death of journalist in Ukraine

Fuck Russia

Ilovethebomb , in Aussie Bus Driver Fed Up with 'Misbehavior' Dumps 18 Kids on Side of the Road

Good job using an American school bus on the wrong side of the road for the thumbnail.

MindSkipperBro12 ,
Ilovethebomb ,

Thanks for contributing.

smoof ,
Ilovethebomb ,

Not bad.

TrebuchetTaxiService ,

Thanks, now it makes sense.

Obi ,
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I need more information about your username. Is it the trebuchet that acts as a taxi, as in you sit on it and drives along, or is a trebuchet service, where it uses its primary function to yeet you to your destination?

TrebuchetTaxiService ,

The latter. We use the power of the counterweight to deliver you (as close) to your destination as possible.

Obi ,
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Sounds great and safe, sign me up!

Matt_Shatt ,

I just assumed this was somewhere in America due to the thumbnail. I guess I could read the article before jumping to conclusions though.

MasterObee , in School board in Missouri, now controlled by conservatives, revokes anti-racism resolution

The board’s vice president, Randy Cook, said phrases in the resolution such as “systemic racism” aren’t defined and mean different things to different people. Another board member, Jane Puszkar, said the resolution served no purpose.

“What has it really done,” she asked. “How effective has it really been?”

The new board is right. Saying some buzzwords doesn’t really help anything.

Treat students as equals, regardless of race. Provide resources to poor folk, black or white. Teach math to kids whether they’re black or white.

Pretty simple.

SheeEttin ,

Yeah, that’s what the resolution was supposed to do. But regressives don’t want that, they like to exploit the racism.

MasterObee ,

How were the students not being treated as equals?

expatriado , in Taliban beauty salon ban: Three Afghan women mourn the end of a valued service

they lasted this long?

dethb0y , in School board in Missouri, now controlled by conservatives, revokes anti-racism resolution

I am 100% not surprised this would go down in Missouri.

fearout , (edited ) in Corfu latest Greek island to evacuate over wildfires
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Greece can’t seem to catch a break. This is now what, a fifth island/region to be engulfed in wildfires?

And their hottest month of the year is usually august :(

Fizz , in Aussie Bus Driver Fed Up with 'Misbehavior' Dumps 18 Kids on Side of the Road
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They will be fine. My bus driver did this often cause we were complete fuckheads.

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