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ArbitraryValue , in 54% of young Americans say food costs are the biggest strain on their finances

Wait, what? If you’re hungry, nutritious food (canned beans and such) will cost less than $5 a day. And that’s without cooking. If you can boil water, you can save some money and increase the variety of food available to you.

hedgehogging_the_bed ,

When milk of $5+ a gallon in most of the country, the solution isn’t as simple as “cook at home” for those of us with a family to feed. Young Americans don’t mean just 24 year olds.

IsThisAnAI ,

I have a toddler and cook at home. What exactly is your point here, I don’t understand. Rice, beans, meat, produce call all be had for cheap. Milk IS one of the more expensive foods but it’ll last two weeks, is probably a poor example when you can also buy 2lbs of pork for $6.

FlyingSquid ,
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Your claim of two pounds of pork for $6 does not line up with Kroger’s meat pricing.

www.kroger.com/pl/pork-ham/05006

SaucySnake ,

But your link shows a half loin being sold for $2.50/lb, and a pork shoulder being sold for just over that.

Schadrach ,

Your claim of two pounds of pork for $6 does not line up with Kroger’s meat pricing.

You could easily do this if you buy on sales or close dated and freeze. Last time I bought pork it was pork loin on sale from a Piggly Wiggly at $1.89/lb. Buy several, ask the meat dept to cut them into chops if they will (or do it yourself if they won’t) separate into single meal for the household portions, bag and freeze. They’ll last even longer if you use a vacuum sealer.

We do basically the same with ground beef - buy a bunch when there’s a sale, pre-prep some of it into taco meat, meatloves, chili, etc then portion, bag and freeze.

FlyingSquid ,
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I guess that’s true. I don’t think we should be buying so much meat (if any) to begin with… I wouldn’t ban it or anything, but Kroger or whoever selling nearly-expired meat for very low prices is not going to help matters. The only thing I can say for it is that at least they’re attempting to avoid just throwing it out.

Schadrach ,

selling nearly-expired meat

For most things expiration dates are bullshit that’s more about profits or product flow than safety. Most things are usually more than fine for at least a few days after, and freezing meat extends it’s safe life by months.

To give you an idea how much expiration dates are bullshit, if you’ve ever been to a Sam’s they sell these enchiladas, pasta and the like that are just throw in the oven for a bit and eat and they’re all made with shredded chicken. They make these things in house, and they’re all chicken because the chicken comes from unsold rotisserie chickens that have been out too long that they pick all the meat off and shred. Because the expiry on them isn’t actually about food safety, and pulling them off the shelf, shredding and repackaging as chicken enchiladas or chicken pasta alfredo or whatever lets them invent a new mostly bullshit expiry date for the same chicken.

hedgehogging_the_bed ,

Toddlers don’t eat very much. I feeding a family of four including two teens. My point is that while individual foods are cheap, a balanced diet is still expensive, especially the foods for growing children. Milk, eggs, fresh produce, unprocessed meats, all are significantly more expensive than they were 5 years ago. Hell, even uncooked rice is up to $1/pound.

PriorityMotif ,
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We buying a neighborhood cow. What are they gonna do about it?

RagingRobot ,

Yeah the price of food for one person is easily doubled now. If you are single it’s hard enough but if you have a family of 4 it’s insane

Baguette ,

Ah yes, surely the issue must be that people aren’t eating enough poverty meals of canned beans and rice. Meat is obviously only for wall street investors

Dkarma ,

Havent you heard? You’re not supposed to eat meat anyway.

fuckthepolice ,

This but unironically.

Schadrach ,

Meat is obviously only for wall street investors

When you need to cut your food budget and still want meat, you watch for meat sales, buy a bunch and freeze it. A vacuum sealer is fantastic for this since it lets you split stuff into single meal portions and seal it. Most grocery store meat departments will also willing to cut roasts and the like into pieces for you if you ask and that doesn’t change the price - usually buying a pork loin and asking them to cut it into chops will be cheaper than just buying chops, for example. For quick meals pre-prepping a bunch of taco meat, meatloaves, chili or the like and freezing it is a great time saver.

Around here ground beef and pork loin go on sale pretty often, just a few weeks ago we had pork loin for $1.89/lb and discounted 85/15 ground beef.

timmy_dean_sausage ,

Sardines are a great (and cheap!) source of protein and they’re super nutrient dense. Tons of vitamin d, b, fish oils. This has little to do with the topic at hand, I just got turned onto sardines as someone that wrote them off my entire adult life and they’re awesome!

On topic though, I love threads like these because we get to see all of the middle/upper middle class nepo-babies come out with their advice on how to manage living with a level of poverty they have clearly never experienced. Always such a special time.

TubularTittyFrog ,

they also have a fuckload of sodium

timmy_dean_sausage ,

Nope! I have hypertension, so I’m extremely sodium conscious, out of necessity. The king Oscar tins we buy have 350mg of sodium in them, which is around 15% DV. That’s not much compared to pretty much all red meats…

FlyingSquid ,
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I’m so excited for my new all-canned beans diet.

Dkarma ,

What if I told you that you don’t need the processed foods you’ve been eating your whole life? Shocking I know.

You “I can’t afford food” Them “here’s food you can” You “no not like that! I need muh Doritos to be happy like the commercials tell me!!”

Most people in Mongolia eat one thing their entire lives and are fine.

FlyingSquid ,
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So it’s either ‘bag of doritos’ or ‘eat all canned beans for the rest of your life.’

Most people in Mongolia eat one thing their entire lives and are fine.

This is just utter horse shit and it also sounds based in bigotry.

www.travelbuddies.info/mongolian-foods/www.viewmongolia.com/mongolian-food.html

Etc.

RagingRobot ,

I buy vegetables and meat mostly. are those luxury foods now? Last I checked that was just food.

TubularTittyFrog ,

fresh food is a luxury in the usa, yes.

i was grew up in a bottom 50% household. most of my childhood diet was sugary snacks, canned/boxed foodstuffs, and frozen meat/vegetables. fresh food was largely reserved for holidays. my mother used to spend about 60/week to feed a family of four, and this was after coupons and in the 1990s

Lumisal ,

I like how some Americans aren’t even pretending to strive to be the best nation anymore but just saying “eat like people in impoverished countries”.

Like, people in Mongolia or for example my parents when they lived in El Salvador didn’t eat beans every single day because they wanted to or enjoyed it - it’s because there literally was no upward mobility and the oligarchy kept it that way.

You’re the person who centuries ago would be defending the king as you ate only oats for the 10th day in a row because some other kingdom had minor starvation.

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Hobbes , in Florida ex-cop with ‘patterns of abuse and bias’ joins DeSantis’s state guard

And so the recruitment for his brownshirts begins.

skeezix , in GOP Lawmakers in Louisiana Reject Adding Rape & Incest Exceptions for Children to Abortion Ban. Again.

Pra ba jeeba

Blumpkinhead ,

What?

originalucifer , in Mom’s Fatal Fall at Ohio State Graduation Was No Accident: Coroner
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

The coroner’s office has yet to officially release the cause of death.

uh huh

some_guy , in Former U.S. soldier convicted in cold case murder of pregnant 19-year-old soldier on Army base in Germany

I wish the article had some info about how they arrived at the conclusion that it was this guy, but that info is completely absent.

58008 , in RFK Jr. says he had parasitic brain worm and undisclosed memory loss
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We know.

some_guy , in Tesla is under a federal wire fraud probe for misleading investors

I’m presently listening to the latest ep of the Better Offline podcast and ole’ Lonnie is the topic.

Wilzax , in Panera says it's phasing out its controversial Charged Lemonade nationwide

Just have the same lemonade with no caffeine added. It was delicious

HurlingDurling , in TikTok sues US to block potential ban
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Good, hope they win.

Regardless if you like or hate TikTok, the accusations were always baseless and this ban is just because the government wants to control and filter what news we see on it for their benefit and the benefit of corporations.

Bernie_Sandals ,
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the government wants to control and filter what news we see on it for their benefit

But isn’t this exactly what the Chinese government was able to do with TikTok?

The FCC used to ban foreign ownership of TV stations for this exact reason, and I don’t think that’s exactly wrong

HurlingDurling , (edited )
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There has not been any proof made public of the Chinese influence on TikTok. John Kerry Senator Mitt Romney recently expressed in an interview (trying to find it now, but I heard it online 2 days ago) that the ban on TikTok was to stop the spread of information regarding the Israel attack on Palestine because the government wants the people to support Israel.

EDIT: It was Mitt Romney, not John Kerry -> independent.co.uk/…/blinken-romney-israel-hamas-t…

More here

Bernie_Sandals ,
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There has not been any proof made public of the Chinese influence on TikTok

Have you actually done research into that, or did you just hear it, and it confirmed your bias, so you took it to be true? The executive branch research departments and the GAO/CRS have been putting out reports for months on TikTok’s ability as an influence tool.

Here’s an example from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence

You can say “nuh-uh” or “They wanna ban it so people like genocide again,” but it’s objectively true that TikTok can be used as a weapon, and we would be doing the exact same ban if VKontakte or Weibo suddenly became super popular.

HurlingDurling ,
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Bernie_Sandals ,
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The Hill? Lol.

I don’t understand exactly what you’re trying to refute. That’s just Blinken saying that the decentralization of media is one of the key drivers of the changes in politics during the past decades. Which is objectively true.

The Congressional Research Service has put out 3 reports in the past year about this, which I can’t link here because they’re PDF files, but you can find by googling “CRS TikTok”.

According to the CRS, Chinese laws require that TikTok Have an internal communist party organization, and by law must have a member put on its Board of Directors by the CCP.

Even TikTok’s parent company (Byte Dance) has admitted that its employees have spied on journalists while trying to purge the company of leaks.

HurlingDurling ,
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So I can understand you taking apart an article, or someone’s commentary about an interview from a source you find untrustworthy, I really do.

But this is them… in a video…

Honestly does it really matter who posted the video at this point? The dude said it, on video, who cares if it’s from the hill at that point?

If you are still arguing that the tiktok ban isn’t about Israel then we are done with this discussion are we’re on an impass

Bernie_Sandals ,
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But this is them… in a video…

The only one saying anything about TikTok in the video you linked is Romney, who didn’t write the bill, and will soon be retiring, let alone his estrangment from his party, I don’t think he has the influence to be a trustworthy source on why banning TikTok has broad bipartisan support.

I’m sure some of the Republicans may be thinking of things such as Gaza when trying to ban TikTok, but that’s not an explanation for the swathes of democrats who have come out in support, saying that China is their reason.

The US government has been trying to ban TikTok for 3 years even before October 7th. So I can’t see any way that this is solely or primarily intended to crack down on local support for Palestinians.

thesporkeffect , in Israel frustrated U.S. paused weapons shipment over Rafah assault concerns, official says

Is this hasbara?

EndlessApollo , in Medical freedom vs. public health: Should fluoride be in our drinking water?

No, but not for any health reasons, it just tastes like shit lol

MakePorkGreatAgain , in World’s top climate scientists expect global heating to blast past 1.5C target

when this century? soon or in ~70 years?

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

It’s starting now.

intensely_human ,

Yup. By defintion any process that ends in the future is starting now. I think the question isn’t “are we on the curve now?” but rather “When are we expected to see this 3C stuff?”

Duke_Nukem_1990 , (edited )

By defintion any process that ends in the future is starting now.

How so? I will start baking bread on friday and it will be finished saturday. Hasn’t started yet tho.

intensely_human ,

Unless you consider thinking about it to be part of the process. Or the movement of the universe toward such an event. Such boundaries between cause and effect are arbitrary and exist in the mind, not in reality.

SlopppyEngineer ,

1.5°C before 2030

2.0°C before 2050

3.0°C before 2100

That’s what I get if I skim a few articles. Dates are without mitigation.

intensely_human ,

So basically we only get to check one of those predictions within the next ten years.

The 2100 date for 3C is going to take 75 years to test.

When scientists predicted mass starvation in 2000 it was only 25 years out, but by the time that prediction turned out false everyone had basically forgotten the predictions. And that’s just a 25 year gap.

What I’m saying is that there’s zero skin in the game, reputation-wise, for someone making climate predictions 75 years out.

SlopppyEngineer ,

That reasoning, if not the exact words about scientists being wrong, was also used by critics to say climate warning plateaued and no action at all should be taken. Turned out the critics were wrong.

I’ve seen a lot of the classics being brought up: There is no warming, warming is good, it’s not human made, it’s too late anyway, it’s just the weather, there are no ill effects, … So I’ll follow the scientists, they got a lot more right than the critics.

kent_eh ,

It has already started.

MakePorkGreatAgain , in Transgender activists flood Utah tip line with hoax reports to block bathroom law enforcement

filing fake complaints is activism?

andyburke ,
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When the complaint system is intended to repress, launching a DDoS against it is activism, yes.

Make sense?

Moonrise2473 , in US revokes licences for sales of some chips to China's Huawei

This move hurts more the us and Intel than china and Huawei.

It will just accelerate the transition to homegrown processors, turning tables

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