I was so upset about Santa Clarita Diet. That one and leaving Travellers on the biggest cliffhanger I could ever imagine with time travel and shit and then… just gone.
Same reason why people are still on Twitter and Reddit, the majority can’t be arsed to push back against companies. This is why they keep getting away with it and it’s just enabling other companies to go the same route.
Yeah, and the same reason I believe all these micro subscriptions in cars will just go ahead. In 5-10 years, half of the functions of the car will be locked behind subscription gates and it will be normal. Too many people jsut don't bloody care.
Some things they don't care about -- e.g. Reddit, Twitter stuff -- and some things they just don't feel like they can affect. If they're buying a new car, and every single car in their region and in their price range is selling subscriptions, then they're going to feel like they have no choice.
Now, they do likely have choices -- they could buy a used car, or they could look outside their immediate region -- but those options may not address their pain points (maybe they really, really wanted a new car), or maybe they can't afford the time to travel, etc., but the fact that less convenient choices exist don't necessarily make people aware of them, or feel like they're real options.
When every company you interact with, and every transaction you make, is like this, it takes up all of your spoons for dealing with this stuff. It wears down your resistance, and makes it feel like it doesn't matter what you want, just what's being offered.
I mean you’re right, but it’s so fucking exhausting to care about everything wrong in the world. Gotta pick your battles. Personally I have a semi-decent Jellyfin setup, but I’m not going to berate anyone for taking on a netflix sub if the momentary distraction helps get them thru another day in this dystopian hellworld.
Indeed. Here’s your $50,000 car that casts $1000 a month to operate on top of fuel and maintenance. So really it is a $100,000 car that you put 50k down on and pay off on the installment plan. We are in the enshittification stage of this version of capitalism. We cling to the myth that the system makes our lives better, it did for a long time if you lived in the developed world, but that dynamic has played out. Now we are in the phase where ‘growth’ is mainly found by enshittification.
While that’s true it’s also true in 1776 most Americans couldn’t be arsed to push back against the king, it only takes a relatively small portion to care a lot and to order a better alternative then when the ball is rolling everyone will jump on
Same reason why people are still on Twitter and Reddit, the majority can’t be arsed to push back against companies.
Or they just want to watching something on their television after work and have other priorities other than some "war against Netflix" that a couple corners of the internet are angry about?
It IS nicer, but I’m just tired of seeing it everywhere. My wife is one of those people. Her phone scares me from all the spyware she has on it. It’s an iPhone, so I guess it’s a bit better? I don’t know.
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The inevitable conservative argument: “If we didn’t have open borders, construction companies would need to cater to their employees better because they’d have less competition from cheap labor. Thanks Biden”
I hate subscriptions. Too damn easy to forget about. I’ve started subscribing for the shortest period possible and immediately canceling. Sometimes I’ll renew, but generally I just try to get as much as I can out of it in a short period then let it expire
I honestly think that they were kind of right to go after password sharing. In the end, it is all about how expensive you want your service to be. It’s up to the user decide if it is too expensive or not. Of course I cancelled, but hey, if most if the people were OK to pay more than good for Netflix
I don’t get what’s controversial about Netflix making sure their customers keep their promises.
The good thing about Netflix is that they don’t lock you in for 12-24 months. So you’re free to cancel whenever you want. Compare that to the agreement you have with your internet provider.
With that said, you who cancelled Netflix because of this change, what streaming service did you move to that didn’t enforce on account per household?
With that said, you who cancelled Netflix because of this change, what streaming service did you move to that didn’t enforce on account per household?
No streaming service has a "on[e] account per household" rule so I'm not really sure what you mean. Are you saying "what streaming service allows password sharing?" The answer is all of them except Netflix and Apple sort of (Apple cleverly tied it to having an Apple ID so credit where credit is due. It's just too difficult to password share outside your family. But in theory you can).
I didn't cancel netflix, but I didn't bother to make my own account when I got booted from my parents' account. Because Netflix doesn't make enough good stuff to justify it anymore and they cancel everything too quickly. I'm actually happier paying for Apple TV+ or whatever it's called because the price is good and the content is like nothing I've ever seen half the time. I can just browse PlutoTV and/or Tubi and I've got 90% of the quality I see at Netflix for $free.99.
I don’t get what’s controversial about Netflix making sure their customers keep their promises.
This is a tad dramatic, we don't have a moral obligation to netflix. Account holders agreed to terms and to make it sound so important as a personal promise is a bit much. Either way, you're totally right, Netflix is within their rights to boot people. I think most people get that. But they also allowed the status quo for 16 years, so this is their fault. They set an expectation and created a sharing culture that almost, quite literally, crosses generations. They wanted to be in more homes faster and that was the cost. Then they're surprised when they say "hey it's over" and people are vocalizing their displeasure? Again, it's their right, but what did they (or you) expect to happen?
Either way it doesn't matter. If their balance sheet works it works. I just can't quite see why you're riding in defense of Netflix.
“…but I didn’t bother to make my own account when I got booted from my parents’ account. Because Netflix doesn’t make enough good stuff to justify it anymore and they cancel everything too quickly.”
So you actually don’t care about Netflix enforcing the agreement since you don’t care about Netflix.
I agree on Netflix not making much good stuff. A lot of the Netflix movies people are praising today would never have passed the pre production phase in the 90’s or 00’s. It just seems like there has been a general decline in quality the last 10 years and people had just gotten used to it and get happy for whatever is better than the latest upcoming remake/sequel.
I also agree about Apple producing quality. In my opinion they’re the only streaming service that doesn’t fill their catalogue with bullshit just to look bigger.
All other services not requiring one account per household is simply not true. Netflix is probably the only service actively stating that account sharing is okay. For example, Disney Plus terms states that you are not allowed to share your credentials to a 3rd party.
The reason that some services are more lenient on this issue is that they are still focusing on gaining market shares. Next phase is starting to focus on how to getting profitable.
Netflix might be the first one cracking down on this but they are definitively not the last one doing that.
If the streaming services don’t make sure it’s enforced the copyright holders will.
So you actually don’t care about Netflix enforcing the agreement since you don’t care about Netflix.
Why does that matter? Don't discount my opinion simply because I don't care enough about netflix's content to pay for it. Nothing I've said hinges on that.
All other services not requiring one account per household is simply not true. Netflix is probably the only service actively stating that account sharing is okay. For example, Disney Plus terms states that you are not allowed to share your credentials to a 3rd party.
Netflix said the same things in its terms for 16 years. Would you have said "netflix doesn't allow account sharing"? Because that's a pretty ridiculous claim when functionally they did and everyone else does. I currently only pay for HBO, yet I'm on Prime, Hulu, and Disney+. Terms or not, we know what the reality is. So let's not hide behind faux-legalese and arguments even you don't believe man.
The reason that some services are more lenient on this issue is that they are still focusing on gaining market shares. Next phase is starting to focus on how to getting profitable.
They aren't lenient, they literally don't enforce it. And it's not just "some," it's all but Netflix and Apple* (as explained above). Because functionally it's allowed.
Netflix might be the first one cracking down on this but they are definitively not the last one doing that.
No doubt about it, but not sure its relevance.
If the streaming services don’t make sure it’s enforced the copyright holders will.
This sounds highly speculative.
I'm also not sure you really answered the "one account per household" thing. You are very precious about the ToS so I'm curious what you meant by this.
The reason I chose the word “promise” is because people often, especially in discussions regarding Netflix latest nice, tend to forget/ don’t understand what it means when you sign an agreement.
I personally don’t care if people get angry if Netflix hold them liable to the agreement they signed out if they get angry after getting a parking fine.
Regarding the ToS, do you mean that Netflix never made a change in the terms regarding sharing account before enforcing the new stuff or do you agree that the terms now regulate who you can and who you can’t share your account with?
I don’t know how much clearer I can make this. We are talking about what is written and what is functionally happening. It’s like jaywalking. If you jaywalk, and someone said “jaywalking is illegal,” you would roll your eyes because literally everybody does it.
All of these services say it’s one account per person (again, not a household). But none of them enforce it. So for the last 16 years Netflix has functionally not had that rule. I do not understand how you are confused by this concept. I feel like I’ve been pretty clear about it and it’s self evident. It is pointless to say “you’re not allowed to share accounts“ when it was rampant and Netflix did not care. We aren’t idiots, we know they are choosing to enforce it now. That’s literally what this entire discussion is about.
So what do you think is the reason why people are mad at Netflix? Is it because Netflix didn’t stop some customers from not following the agreement earlier or is it because the customers can’t continue to not following the agreement?
Yeah they’re allowed to but we get to be mad at them and factor that anger into our decisions regarding their product. Few if any people are saying that this behavior should be illegal, we’re saying it’s frustrating how few people are taking that anger into action
That’s correct. My point was that Netflix is now a low quality overpriced non-essential product. Why not just cut it without adding yet another subscription to your life?
Netflix making sure their customers keep their promises
Netflix sold me a 4 screens shareable account. They then broke their promise and removed the shareable part. WTF are you talking about, or was that simply sarcasm?
American phone and internet prices are crazy, they’re six times what I pay in the UK and come with so many bullshit fees and lock in clauses. Netflix being better than the worst of the worst doesn’t mean it’s not still shitty.
But yeah I do kinda agree, it’s a company giving you a choice to buy their shitty product for a high price - just say no and get your entertainment elsewhere, they make shit write-by-numbers time fillers no one actually needs it in their life. It’s the telecoms and other essential services we should be mad at, and by mad at I mean nationalising and open sourcing
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