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Badeendje , in Most US voters say plastics industry should be held responsible for recycling claims – report
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All companies should be required to recycle their own products. No… not via contracts with 3rd parties. Products go back up through the sales channels untill they reach the manufacturers.

If you don’t have an idea how your products end of life works, you cannot sell or manufacture it.

Solves e-waste, plastic, chemicals… a lot of the god awful stuff.

TransplantedSconie , in Most US voters say plastics industry should be held responsible for recycling claims – report

But the Republicans are going to vote for the guy who will sell them down the river Jan 20st 2025.

Fucking.

Morons.

someguy3 , in Trump pledges authoritarian crackdown, saying enemies to be prosecuted at levels "never seen before"

He also emphasized that his promised post-election crackdown would be sweeping in nature, claiming targets would include “Lawyers, Political Operatives, Donors, Illegal Voters, & Corrupt Election Officials.” Hundreds if not thousands of people could ultimately be detained, he suggested, writing: “Those involved in unscrupulous behavior will be sought out, caught, and prosecuted at levels, unfortunately, never seen before in our Country.”

aniki , in Trial begins over Texas ‘Trump Train’ highway confrontation

Civil trial, folks. Not even criminal…

Zombiepirate ,
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And notably, it’s because the cops didn’t give a fuck.

The lawsuit plaintiffs said law enforcement "turned a blind eye to the attack — despite pleas for help — and failed to provide the bus a police escort.” The lawsuit alleged that by refusing to help, law enforcement officers violated the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 because they were aware of “acts of violent political intimidation” but did not take appropriate steps to prevent the Trump supporters from intimidating eligible voters.

aniki ,

I am absolutely sure that the courts will both annihilate the little people while simultaneously letting the cops completely off the hook.

DogPeePoo ,

Civil trial only because… Texas. Fucking Texas 🤦🏽🤦‍♀️🤦🏻‍♂️

kent_eh , in Americans misunderstand their contribution to deteriorating environment

Americans have been lied to by their corporate masters for decades about their contribution to deteriorating environment

SGGeorwell , (edited )

Let’s ask Charles Koch why he has spent billions of his own personal dollars to MAKE SURE people don’t understand that their house is on fire. The problem is murderous oil people perpetrating the most titanic crime in the history of earth. History’s most accomplished murderer is a free man, living in fucking Wichita for Christ’s sake. Arrest him and put him in prison with the other murderous sociopaths. There are others besides Charles, but he’s the most accomplished of the criminals.

Potatisen ,

It’s a bit like an adult lying to children. It’s not really their fault but you’d hope at some point they would grow up.

Asafum ,

I’ll never forget that scumbag who walked in with a snowball and said something like “how is there global warming if there is snow!?” Representative Inhoffe (Republican of course)…

Boozilla , in Americans misunderstand their contribution to deteriorating environment
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I know it won’t fix it, and this is hardly a comprehensive list. But I feel like there are some stupid-easy things Americans could do to reduce the harm. Just a few that come to mind:

  • Don’t buy a big vehicle like a giant pickup truck unless you really need it. (A pavement princess for your ego is not a need).
  • Book air travel as little as possible. Again, only if you truly need it.
  • If you are growing something that requires a lot of water in an area that doesn’t get very much rain…stop doing that. (If you have some kind of closed loop water system, that’s an exception. But how many actually have that.)
  • Telecommute if you can. If you can do your job from home and your boss won’t let you, it’s time to hunt for another job.
Potatisen ,

Americans don’t have the choice to do most of these things, or the choice to do most of anything.

They’re locked into a system, things are decided for them. There needs to be a change internally in America before these things can be changed. Honestly, I think the will to change these things is small, most Americans don’t know much beyond oxygen tanks and diabetes.

spidermanchild ,

Americans don’t have the choice not to buy gigantic pickup trucks and SUVs? Gimme a break. I have never bought one, it’s not some kind of one weird trick thing, you just literally don’t fucking buy them and buy something smaller and cheaper instead.

Zorsith ,
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Half the major auto manufacturers DONT MAKE ANYTHING SMALLER. Ford discontinued every model of sedan.

And that’s not getting into the whole “a brand new car starts at almost 30K on the low end” affordability issue.

Glemek ,

I wish there was something like a kei truck available in the US with some modern crash safety features, and maybe a plug-in hybrid option.

fartsparkles , in She ate a poppy seed salad just before giving birth. Then they took her baby away.

And let me guess, she paid for the privilege of being forced to stay 5 days and having her baby taken away from her? Unless she’s got amazing insurance?

Honestly, I’m so glad to live somewhere with public health care.

ravhall ,

Yes. However, she will get a payout in the end

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

She will, but many MANY more won’t be so privileged.

girlfreddy OP ,
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Tbf I don’t think she wants a payout … she just wants her kid back (and maybe have the testing protocols updated to follow the science instead of the stupidity).

someguy3 , in She ate a poppy seed salad just before giving birth. Then they took her baby away.

For decades, state and federal laws have required hospitals across the country to identify newborns affected by drugs in the womb and to refer such cases to child protective services for possible investigation. To comply, hospitals often use urine drug screens that are inexpensive (as little as $10 per test), simple to administer (the patient pees in a cup), and provide results within minutes.

girlfreddy OP ,
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If Horton had been tested under different circumstances—for example, if she was a government employee and required to be tested as part of her job—she would have been entitled to a more advanced test and to a review from a specially trained doctor to confirm the initial result.

NuXCOM_90Percent , (edited ) in She ate a poppy seed salad just before giving birth. Then they took her baby away.

Gonna call “hinky” on this.

Back when I had a job that required regular drug testing we WERE told to not eat poppy seeds. But my understanding is that, unless you have other digestive issues (not sure if a baby would count?), it is incredibly unlikely to test positive unless you are mainlining poppy seeds for weeks on end. Its similar to how getting a whiff of something dank isn’t going to make you test positive but you should still avoid those scenarios.

The issue is that if you pissed hot you would immediately need a much more expensive (since you need a proper professional rather than someone who signed a form saying they won’t pleasure themselves while watching you pee…) blood test. And, in the case of contractors, they would then need to deal with the union reps who would fight tooth and nail to ensure that blood test never happens and it is just a headache for everyone. And you can bet those reps always insisted people had just eaten a single poppy seed muffin. Same with the Super Important Parents of the nepo babies.

But yeah. It is fricking wild that it is immediate action without follow up. Especially when someone is going to be in the hospital for at least a day or two anyway.

Manifish_Destiny ,

It’s actually fairly easy to fail a drug test from poppy seeds. It’s literally where we get opium from. You do not need digestive issues, or even a ton of poppyseeds.

It takes like half a teaspoon.

Also not all poppyseeds are created equal. Some contain far more/less alkaloids than others.

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

“Easy” is a stretch.

Yes, poppy seeds are the seeds of the poppy plant which is a large component of opium. But they are not actually opium and your body tends to digest the seeds (which are likely already broken down by the cooking process and however long they were in a jar) different than if you were to process and smoke or inject them. Which tends to lead toward trace amounts that should be below most thresholds… unless you are particularly dehydrated or otherwise didn’t digest the seeds properly.

A big part of the issue is that reputable research on how much you can get away with for a piss test tends to not be funded for whatever reason. It is the same reason that it is generally fine to use hemp based products (e.g. Dr Bronner’s) but nobody will ever put that in writing because there are too many unknowns and it just leads to a mess.

Or, going back to smelling something dank at a concert or on a trail? Guidance was always to be terrified and run away to at least five states over. But the reality is that you basically would need to be hot boxed to get enough contact THC from that. But the threshold between “someone in this outdoor venue is smoking a marijuana cigarette” and “I am stuck in a cloud of weed smoke” is very dependent on far too many factors. So it is easier to say “You get paid enough to just avoid it”

And of the less reputable studies (such as the “I am gonna eat poppy seeds and then piss hot”), they tend to have VERY wildly varying seeds. So stuff like fresh seeds off the plant and so forth.

Which is why I still find it wild that they would go from single piss test to action without a blood test. But not THAT wild since blood tests take significantly more time and money.

naeap ,
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You don’t make opium from the seeds

You can wash them though and the “syrup” around contains morphine, codeine and stuff.
The seeds themselves don’t get processed, but the poppy cup gets cut so this white liquid flows on the outside.

That you scrape of and gets processed to opium or heroin.

cheese_greater ,

Its just sap residue but yeah, you’re spot on. Some of the alkaloids linger altho most poppy seeds are washed unless its explicitly skipped

naeap ,
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Thanks! Couldn’t come up with the correct word and settled for “syrup” ;-)

girlfreddy OP ,
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“Easy” is a stretch.

Not really. I’ve posted a bunch of science that proves that.

Do you have any science that disproves it?

limonfiesta , (edited )

No, it’s not easy to pop hot just from eating a dish with poppy seeds and it hasn’t been for a long time. The trace amounts aren’t nearly enough to reach the minimum threshold.

I would be 100% willing to believe hospital used substandard or defective tests, that she was on another legally prescribed medication that causes false positives, or even that the hospital administered opiates themselves, and through negligence and incompetece, forgot to put it in her chart.

But whenever someone says they ate a poppy seed muffin or salad, and that’s the only explanation they have, I’m immediately leaning towards actual opiates being the culprit.

Not saying it’s impossible these days, I’m saying it’s the least likely possible answer between those two options.

That said, this is the American healthcare system, so my money is on hospital error of some kind.

girlfreddy OP ,
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No, it’s not easy to pop hot just from eating a dish with poppy seeds and it hasn’t been for a long time.

Scientific proof please.

limonfiesta , (edited )

This isn’t some new development. Anyone who’s had regular drug testing in the last 20 years is aware of this. Clearly, you haven’t had a regular drug testing requirement for a job, parole, or any other reason.

If you had, you would know that modern tests moved the threshold of detection up because of these issues on early era drug tests, which is why this idea persists.

I won’t call it a myth, because it’s always possible a batch of food grade poppy seeds wasn’t properly processed, and that batch has unusually high alkaline contents, or that someone consumed a disgustingly large amount of poppy seed muffins, or salad dressing, a day before their test, but that would be the exception, not the rule.

Also, have you never had the poppy seed salad from costco? The dressing is in a small plastic ramekin with at most, a tablespoon of poppy seeds, but probably less.

girsaysdoom ,

It looks like they flagged her because she missed multiple check up appointments prior to delivery too, which apparently is a common sign of drug abuse. It really just seems like she’s overwhelmed time-wise and really doesn’t need 5 children but that’s her choice as long as they aren’t harmed.

ravhall , (edited )

Well, one of her kids is obese, and I would call that abuse.

But the article was a whirlwind of dumb procedures and overreactions.

Lupus ,

Well, one of her kids is obese, and I would call that abuse.

Personally I wouldn’t be so quick to judge on that. 1 out of 3 kids we can see in the photos is overweight, the other two look healthy. There might be something else at play with that one child, which is out of her control, we don’t know that.

SpaceNoodle ,

No, she picked that one specific child to make fat, because her evil is the extremely targeted kind, obviously.

ravhall ,

Such as?

IamSparticles ,

Back when I had a job that required regular drug testing we WERE told to not eat poppy seeds. But my understanding is that, unless you have other digestive issues (not sure if a baby would count?), it is incredibly unlikely to test positive unless you are mainlining poppy seeds for weeks on end.

Your understanding is incorrect. It varies depending on the sensitivity of the test and the seeds being ingested, but it is actually quite possible for poppy seeds to trigger a false positive on a urine test for opiates, and it does happen. MythBusters tested this in their 3rd episode many years ago. They bought test kits that were publicly available for workplace testing and followed their instructions. They, like you, went in thinking it was just a myth. The plan was that they would continue ingesting foods with poppy seeds until they either got a positive test or they ate such ridiculous quantities that it wasn’t worth continuing. But they started getting positive results very quickly, (after just a few servings of either poppy seed bagels or poppy seed cake) and they stayed positive for a couple days. They called the companies that manufactured the tests and were assured repeatedly that it was not possible (because of course they would never admit that their tests can get false positive results). US Federal employers that test actually mandate that their tests have a much higher threshold because of this effect. But not everyone uses tests that adhere to that standard, and many are just way too sensitive.

defense.gov/…/service-members-should-avoid-foods-…
drugfoundation.org.nz/…/mythbusters-poppy-seeds
usada.org/…/can-poppyseeds-cause-a-positive-drug-…

NuXCOM_90Percent , (edited )

I loved Mythubsters but they were far from rigorous scientists (and Adam Savage says that every time he talks about Mythbusters to get Will Smith’s Tested some views).

Again, there are LOTS of variables involved including even whether the poppy seeds were washed or how sensitive the test is. My understanding is the disposable OTC-ish tests tend to be much higher sensitivity because they need to last a lot longer than chemicals in a lab.

Can it happen? Yes. Just like you CAN pop positive for THC from just walking too close to the stoners at a crag. But considering this was mass produced and processed salad dressing at a frigging costco? That is very much in the “oh god, I ate one poppy seed muffin!” territory. And considering that most of those arguments are geared toward people who will be unemployed if they piss hot, it is going to err on the side of caution.

Because there is a big gap between possible and probable. And you’ll note that almost all reputable sources say “it is possible and you should avoid this” in the same way that basically everything sold in California is potentially cancerous.

In fact, for Mythubsters in particular: I would need to rewatch that episode (… I need to rewatch most of their episodes, honestly) but they were always in downtown San Francisco, right? Could EASILY see a case where they got gourmet/organic poppy seed muffins rather than the insanely processed crap you find at a kroger (or a costco).


Going back to hemp oil and THC. From actual tests we totally didn’t misappropriate government lab resources to run, Bronners was incredibly processed and safe. But there was also enough variance bottle to bottle that I would never have (knowingly) risked it. We did basic statistics on the 4-ish bottles we tested but… money.

Whereas we also got a hold of some of the oil used at a local spa and that shit would have made Snoop Dogg dizzy.

NauticalNoodle ,

When I did some reading on this subject in the past what I came across was that there is a difference between washed poppy seeds an unwashed poppy seeds which Is exactly as it sounds. Unwashed poppy seeds have a higher opiate content due to a thin coating on the outside that they likely picked up while still inside the seed pod. That seed pod is the primary source of opium. So, basically It can boil down to what company the poppy seeds were sourced from and whether or not they had been rinsed off with water prior to hitting the market.

girlfreddy OP ,
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Gonna call “hinky” on this.

Got scientific proof of that or is just a feewing you get?

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

Ah. Apologies. I thought I was speaking with an adult. Not a child who can’t have a conversation without randomly antagonizing others.

Have fun.

girlfreddy OP ,
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Poor you.

Samvega , (edited )

“I’m a white man with status and power, and I experience the world as great. As these women who don’t make as much money as me are just whining.”

Some people think they’re progressive and caring because they are involved in pro-Dem politics, when the Democrat party is centre-right.

Samvega ,

Gonna call “hinky” on this.

Thanks for defending a human world which has been purposefully designed to harm other humans.

As the article states:

The harms of drug testing fall disproportionately on low-income, Black, Hispanic, and Native American women, who studies have found are more likely to be tested when they give birth, more likely to be investigated, and less likely to reunite with their children after they’ve been removed.

These are people about whom you do not really care, I suppose, so wishful thinking about how ‘isn’t the world great?’ is more important than compassion for other living beings, in this circumstance.

corsicanguppy , in Tyreek Hill is detained by police before Dolphins game. Officer is subsequently placed on leave

Is this normal?

  1. someone gets hurt
  2. there should be a law
  3. laws
  4. not working
  5. we need someone to enforce that law
  6. someone enforces that law
  7. not for that person
  8. cops in trouble for enforcing law

Yeah, good thing he’s on a few days’ leave. Hope the fishing’s nice.

protist ,

The issue here is clearly not the enforcement of the law, but handcuffing him face down on the concrete for what is ordinarily a citation. Get it together man

Carmakazi , in Trial begins over Texas ‘Trump Train’ highway confrontation

A prior lawsuit filed over the “Trump Train” alleged the San Marcos Police Department violated the Ku Klux Klan Act by failing to send a police report after multiple 911 calls were made and a bus rider said his life was threatened. It accused officers of privately laughing and joking about the emergency calls. San Marcos settled the lawsuit in 2023 for $175,000 and a requirement that law enforcement get training on responding to political violence.

In case you were still wondering what side the police are on, and whether you could count on their help if these people came after you.

Dkarma ,

Time for leftists to get " we don’t dial 911" stickers

seth , in SEC Charges Seven Public Companies with Violations of Whistleblower Protection Rule.

Oh wow, really steep fines, less than one year’s salary of the whistleblowers they fucked over in several cases. Less than the yearly compensation of the executives who should be held criminally liable in every case. Essentially no penalty at all.

irotsoma , in SEC Charges Seven Public Companies with Violations of Whistleblower Protection Rule.
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With fines that low, totally worth it to discourage future whistleblowers considering the seriousness of some of the crimes which they likely will get tiny fines for as well.

resetbypeer , in Trump Bluntly Tells Police to ‘Watch for Voter Fraud’ and Reminds Them That Citizens Are ‘Afraid of You People’

He wants to use the police like the Nazi’s used the gestapo.

TheTechnician27 , in She ate a poppy seed salad just before giving birth. Then they took her baby away.
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This is a long, long article, but it’s 100% worth it. The entire thing is infuriating.

ravhall ,

Agreed.

It sucks for everyone involved too. The mothers, the doctors, the hospital, the caseworkers, all seem to be locked into a ridiculous position because of poor testing equipment, and overly protective laws.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

You can always just lie.

ravhall ,

Who is “you” in this situation?

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

Anyone at every step of the way.

“Whoops we didn’t collect enough urine to perform the test.”

“Whoops I spilled it and she’s already in labor”

“Test came back as positive? No that was a false alert”

“Whoops I filled the wrong information in the report and sent the authorities to the wrong place”

“I came to check on her and she clearly wasn’t on drugs so I left”

Etc. These are moral failings of everyone along the way.

ravhall ,

That could land them in prison, or at the least they would lose their license in addition to fines.

You’re asking medical personnel to bypass requirements, and in this situation I totally understand how that seems like a win-win, but that’s not a practice we should be encouraging people to do. That’s how people die.

Cadeillac ,
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100% worth it.

The entire thing is infuriating.

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