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wildncrazyguy138 , in Why Are So Many Americans Choosing to Not Have Children?

I’d suspect there’s a high correlation with better birth control options.

In the 90s, women had to be diligent to take a pill every day. Hell, I can’t even be trusted to take a pain pill when I have a headache.

I can’t tell you how many times an SO and I had a scare because she forgot to take a pill for a few days. I think this is doubly so when you’re in your late teens/early 20s and still don’t have a good understanding of risk.

Now, women can get an injection that lasts 3-6 months, or an implant that works for years.

So we’ve lowered our risk significantly and now it’s more skewed towards family planning. I think that’s a great thing - let the people who want to have kids have them, let the rest live out their lives how they envision it.

But family planning is tough and there are important factors that others have mentioned in their comments here. Money, opportunity, timing, support. I didn’t start having kids until my 40s, but if things had lined up better, I certainly would have preferred to be a Dad a little sooner.

Blackbeard ,
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Another aspect of the birth control part is that women can control their fertility through their teens, and then through their 20s, and then through their 30s, and so on. Many of them do so until children make sense financially (as in your case), but there’s a subgroup there who will delay and delay and delay long enough to ask themselves, “Wait, do I really want children?” Very few women have had that opportunity during the history of our species, and there’s a significant number of them who honestly assess it and make the decision not to. My wife is one of them. She was 100% on the “I want to be a mom” train as a teenager and college student, but as she explored the world and learned to live on her own she got the chance to deeply reflect about why she wanted to be a mom, and the reasons just didn’t line up. Birth control really is a game changer because it puts the power of fertility squarely in the woman’s hands for the first time really ever. Before now procreation depended entirely on the influence and whims of men.

MagicShel , in He Kept Investigating the 2020 Election. Next Week, Michigan Sheriff Dar Leaf Faces Voters Himself.

Fingers crossed, but I wouldn’t count on change. People are different in that part of the state.

worldwidewave , in Arizona official who defended state's 2020 elections loses GOP primary

State Rep. Justin Heap had 42.4% support to 35.9% for Richer when The Associated Press called the race Wednesday morning. Don Hiatt, a candidate who worked in information management technology, took 21.8%.

Richer is an outspoken defender of the swing state’s election process who forcefully pushed back against the unfounded voter fraud claims that spread after the 2020 and 2022 races.

Heap, a critic of Maricopa elections in years past, has dodged questions about whether the 2020 election was fraudulent. He was endorsed by many prominent Arizona Republicans who have refused to accept Joe Biden’s victory four years ago, including Kari Lake, who is running for the Senate this year after her failed 2022 campaign for governor.

Only the worst Republicans are winning. Hopefully a large turnout in November will decisively defeat all the Trumpiest candidates

Mouselemming ,

So from here it looks like the Hiatt voters swung it to Heap, or at least helped to do so. Speaking from ignorance of course, but that seems appropriate for a red race.

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brrt , in 6-month-old boy dies in hot car after parent forgot to drop him off at day care: Sheriff

Daycare is probably not the only scenario in which this happens but I wonder if at least some of those cases could be prevented if the daycare reached out when an expected drop off didn’t happen.

cynar ,

Some do. However, a more common situation is that the parents have been dealing with a sick baby, and decided to let them sleep, when they finally went down. A phone call waking them, after a sleepless night can be met with inappropriate, but understandable, anger.

Many nurseries err on the side of politeness.

Shawdow194 , in 'She called for help and we failed': Sheriff asks forgiveness for Sonya Massey shooting
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"We did not do our jobs."

When most people don't do their jobs they get fired

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oxjox , in Why Are So Many Americans Choosing to Not Have Children?
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“They just want to pursue pleasure and drinking all night and going to Beyoncé concerts. It’s this pursuit of self-pleasure in replace of fulfillment and having a family.”

I’m not gonna argue with this.

For reference, I turned twenty in 1997. Initially it was about money. But then it became apparent, as so many of my friends were having kids, that not having kids was much more fun and liberating. Yes, I am selfish.

I would imagine that my combination of experiences (financial struggles > self-realization) isn’t as unique today as it was twenty years ago.

Moreover, I think it’s worth discussing the ramifications of over/under population. Until we find a magical self-sustaining power source for the planet, and maybe not even then, too many people on this globe will cause it to reject us. On the other hand, a shrinking population means pending economic disaster. These next generations are going to have to choose between a livable planet or economic security. Err, I mean our global corporate overlords are going to give us no choice but to make the planet less livable.

krellor ,

I've always been confused by these conversations though. Aren't people who are having kids doing so because they want to, whatever want might mean to them? Fulfilling just seems like another way to pursue fulfillment/happiness or whatever it is that individuals pursue.

When my wife and I chose to have kids, we enjoyed it. We derive fulfillment and satisfaction out of raising kids. Yeah it's frustrating at times, and you do have trade-offs, but we did it because we wanted to, to feel happy/fulfilled. We didn't start a lifelong journey to support children into adulthood out of some weird sense of patriotism or something. Anyone doing that is weird.

oxjox ,
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Sure - you do you. I respect the choices and priorities you and your wife share. I didn’t say I’m making “the right” choice and others are wrong.

In the long run, I’m envious of the relationships parents build with their children. There’s nothing more rewarding.

I’m the kid who ate the marshmallow when left alone. You’re probably the one who waited five minutes for two.

andyburke ,
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I don't think the other commentter was disagreeeing with you or trying to compare. They said that they chose to have children for the same reasons you chose not to. (I am also a parent who chose kids for the fulfillment/happiness and not as some weird effort to build political power or something.)

You choosing not to have kids is perfectly normal and fine in my book. It is fucking strange to pressure other people into having children.

I think both the previous commenter and I are trying to back you up more than trying to argue you made a wrong choice.

poVoq ,
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Shrinking population will be the least of our problem, in fact the opposite will happen (despite globally shrinking population). Huge areas in the global south will become uninhabitable rather soon, and if we don’t want to be complicit in a global genocide we will have to take some of them in. This will more than off-set any local population decline and we will rather have to scramble to provide affordable housing to all.

oxjox ,
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Right. But also… As the population shrinks (in addition to AI / robotization), we’re on track for a global economic catastrophe.

When businesses can no longer grow, due to people not having enough money and there being fewer consumers, the stock markets will (slowly) crash. As that happens, corporations will scramble to keep afloat. As major employers struggle to employ workers, the unemployment rate rises. Combined: this means less tax revenue, less social services, less economic prosperity. People complain about inflation but deflation is far worse when the population is already in a decline. Governments will scramble to inject free money into the economy. Bonds could become worthless.

The global economy that’s been growing for the past fifty years may crumble in the next fifty years. People may need to rebuild smaller local economies.

It’s actually very interesting. As the population has grown and technology has put the entire planet in the palm of our hands, we as a civilization have grown more apart from each other - instead choosing to reside in the bubbles of our choosing. If the population declines and larger economies struggle, perhaps we’ll need to go back to a time with mom and pop shops and learn to be more neighborly.

In the near term, I think the economic impact would be far greater than ecological impact. Though I think the ecological impact certainly may have a more long term role to play in humanity’s story.

But, I’m not an expert in either of these things. I welcome any source materials studying the matter. I would imagine that some one / group has compiled a formula to define the perfect equilibrium for the planet - combining population growth, employment rates, productivity rates, energy consumption, depletion of natural resources, etc. I’d venture to guess we passed that point around 2010.

conditional_soup , in Los Angeles Says It Will Not Join Newsom’s Push to Clear Encampments

What the fuck, I did not see that one coming. I’m in the central valley, can a SoCal person catch me up here? Is LA actually getting shit done on homelessness?

something_random_tho ,

No, it’s an overwhelming problem. Encampments are huge, unsafe, and monopolize use of public spaces.

Nougat ,

If there was available, appropriate, safe, and dignified housing available to people in encampments, then it would be justifiable to clear ad hoc encampments. Otherwise, you're just making it "someone else's problem," because people have to go somewhere.

Beaver ,
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They’re people not a threat.

octopus_ink ,

Loose fit for the meme, but the sentiment is the same.

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Beaver ,
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Average person on safe supply.

Blackout ,
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The alternative is to stick them all in a very large train that runs around the earth at the equator.

something_random_tho ,

Most homeless people are down on their luck and really need support. Affordable housing, job training and placement programs, food, and medical care can really help these people. I don’t have any problem with this majority of the homeless population.

A small percentage of homeless are insane, whether due to mental health problems/drugs/some combination. These are the people causing problems. They cannot be left to destroy themselves and society around them. We need mandatory care for these people for them to live with dignity. It is not compassionate to throw them on the streets and ignore them. We need asylums for this subset, like we had until Reagan closed them all.

Blackout ,
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That's what the caboose is for

unmagical ,

Unhoused people are members of the public and thus ought to have access to public spaces.

something_random_tho ,

Right of access to public spaces doesn’t mean shitting on the street, smoking crack, starting fires, or stealing dozens of bikes and packages from neighbors.

FlyingSquid ,
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They shit on the street because no one is letting them use any bathrooms. They are “starting fires” because it gets cold in L.A. at night.

Most homeless people in L.A. are not drug addicts or thieves. They’re just down on their luck in one of the most expensive cities in the country. Many of them even have jobs. But when rent is $2000 a month for a shithole that’s a 3-hour drive from their job, what are they supposed to do?

This says almost 50% of homeless people were working in L.A. and that was back in 2020- cbsnews.com/…/homeless-la-county-homelessness-wor…

So you tell us: where are they supposed to go? How are they even supposed to get there?

Also, re the drug part- if you had to live in the conditions they lived in, you’d probably be tempted to take the cheap escape that intoxication offered too.

jaybone ,

In the SF Bay Area they are jumping on the chance to take advantage of this new scotus ruling. So I’m a bit surprised LA is not.

tacosanonymous , in Three accused of involvement in 9/11 attack plead guilty in Guantánamo Bay deal – prosecutors

I guess they successfully avoided a lengthy trial by just torturing them for 21 years? wtf

HeckGazer , in He Kept Investigating the 2020 Election. Next Week, Michigan Sheriff Dar Leaf Faces Voters Himself.

Those two on the left 100% modeled their outfits after the baddies in the second half of FarCry 3

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Nougat , (edited ) in Neo-Nazi Gang Affiliates Attacked a Mixed-Race Family in Martindale TX, but Only One Was Arrested

Some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses.

Aurenkin ,

Those who died are justified

For wearing the badge, they’re the chosen whites

modifier ,
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The greatness of Rage Against the Machine is that their music is always relevant. The depressing thing about Rage Against the Machine is that their music remains relevant.

MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in US arrests a former Green Beret over the failed 2020 raid into Venezuela to remove Maduro

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saltesc , in US stands by decision that 50 million air bag inflators are dangerous, steps closer to huge recall

Gtfo. US regulating in the interests of the public?!

Oooooh wait, it’s been known for 15 years…

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