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FlyingSquid , in Pew finds nation divided on whether the American Dream is still possible
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I don’t even know what people think “the American dream” means anymore.

When I was a kid, it meant a house and two cars and a family of four, which, yes, is unachievable by even most of the people who actually want that, but that doesn’t seem to be what people mean anymore.

And really, since that isn’t achievable by so many, we are in much bigger trouble than that 53% thinks. Unless by ‘possible,’ they mean ‘a small number of people can still afford a house.’

WhyDoYouPersist ,

The poll seems to define the American dream as “the idea that anyone can get ahead through hard work and determination,” which is one of the vaguer things I’ve read today.

Trying not to take it literally (there’s no way “anyone” can get ahead…) and responding to the general spirit of the idea:

Anecdotally speaking, I’m very fortunate to have a well-paid, air-conditioned job and own my own house not in the middle of nowhere. Even though I like to imagine much of that was due to hard work in school and not bombing interviews, I reckon it must be at least 90% due to what skin color I am, where I was born, how my family dynamic was growing up, how much money my parents made, and if I had an “in” at a potential job (i.e. a connection or friend there). And that 90% out-of-my-ass statistic is probably conservative. It’s an ugly truth that I think not many people want to admit to themselves, especially those in my demographic. I know whatever options I have will be more easily attained by someone in my situation, versus others out there. It’s a no-brainer.

That said, everything that makes up my relatively fortunate individual life still does not feel like it adds up to any sort of dream, simply because I live in the context of those around me, those in my community, and those who could not possibly get close to “the American dream” no matter how much they try. I cannot isolate my life from others in some sort of bubble. It feels to me as if the American dream should act as a kind of AND logic gate; until everyone can realize the American dream, no one can.

So, with the way things work here, I’d say it’s impossible and never was possible at any point in time. The American dream is not based in any kind of reality and is just a tool used by the ruling class to keep our heads down.

mombutt_long_and_low ,

Damn. Well said.

FlyingSquid , in Judge puts Young Thug trial indefinitely on hold
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And to think, he was never even president of the United States!

gedaliyah , in Wisconsin Supreme Court to consider whether 175-year-old law bans abortion
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This should be a lesson for every state to enact marriage equality laws. If you think they’re not coming for Obergefell, then you aren’t paying attention.

Zachariah ,
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It would probably boost Dem voter turnout which would be beneficial this year.

edit:
you probably meant the legislature should do it
I was thinking ballot measure.

FiniteBanjo , in Conspiracy Theorists Think Biden Was Hit With Directed-Energy Weapons During Debate

Wouldn’t Directed Energy Weapons make him burn and itch so bad he’d jump around?

We have those, we’ve used them in real combat, but they don’t work like that.

Liz ,

Depends on the weapon.

FiniteBanjo ,

I asked a question and I’m legitimately curious, got some sources?

Liz ,

I wrote a whole thing, but honestly Wikipedia does a pretty good job on this one.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon?wpro…

FiniteBanjo ,

Got it, so what I said stands uncontested. Beam weapons do not work that way.

Liz ,

Oh, sorry, yeah, I thought you were just asking about how those things with in general, not whether such a weapon could make someone confused. Yeah we don’t have anything that works that way.

Snowclone ,

In My experience energy weapons turn the victim into a toothpaste like glowing blue puddle.

FiniteBanjo ,

Your fallout experience also tells you lasers have recoil, so I wouldn’t place any value in that.

roguetrick ,

Well, technically they do. Just they have about as much recoil as your flashlight does.

FiniteBanjo ,

Yeah all the mass of the photons being propelled out has a real kick. /sarcasm

No offence to you, at all, but the fact that your comment is a 3:1 ratio makes me sad for the future of humanity.

roguetrick ,

Oh I’m just a general asshole and some folks realize it enough to downvote me. Pay it no mind.

evranch ,

Sure lasers don’t have recoil, but I see no reason a laser gun can’t have recoil.

Anything from flywheel energy storage, a lasing medium compressed by pistons, massive magnetic fields created by high currents, who knows what’s inside that thing.

A handheld laser gun has to generate a beam of such unrealistic intensity that I’d be surprised if the power stage didn’t buck in some manner.

hakunawazo ,
corroded , in Pew finds nation divided on whether the American Dream is still possible

$3.4M is too low of an estimate. If you assume someone works from age 18 to 65, that’s 47 years of employment at an average of $72,300-ish per year. Now assume time for college, plus people make less early on in their careers. You’re looking at a $100k income.

$100k is probably enough to support a mortgage, two kids, insurance, essentials, bills, and retirement savings in some LCOL areas, but not in many places. In many parts of the US, that might cover a modest house and monthly bills, but there won’t be much left over; forget retirement.

My old brain still looks at a 6-figure income as “you’re rich.” In 2024, you’re not even close.

Fades , in Tory student group condemned after video shows them ‘singing to Nazi song’ University of Warwick says video ‘troubling’ after footage shows students dancing at Conservative association dinner

nazis are emboldened more and more every day. We’re all fucked.

PotatoesFall , in FDA bans food additive found in citrusy sports drinks and sodas

they misspelled citrussy

Deconceptualist ,

You’re the wurst

Dkarma ,

Citwussy

Deconceptualist ,

Ew, lol

AceCephalon ,
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Citrine red text flashbacks

MyOpinion , in Wisconsin Supreme Court to consider whether 175-year-old law bans abortion

Good old GOP looking back over 100 years on how to treat women.

verdantbanana , in Pew finds nation divided on whether the American Dream is still possible
@verdantbanana@lemmy.world avatar

Remember the last election our current president ran on a campaign promise to raise the minimum wage and then later during his presidency threatened the rail workers with their livelihoods when they were striking worker’s rights?

BOTH parties have actively kept the citizens down amazing no third party has support

almost like the US cannot fathom a world without geriatric leaders putting the people in their proper places

_core ,

The Rs and Ds have rigged the system so third party candidates are all but impossible to elect.

Olgratin_Magmatoe , (edited ) in Ron DeSantis vetoes millions in arts grants to defund “sexual” theater festivals

Fascists hate art so this 100% tracks:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5DqmTtCPiQ

nick , in 10 Major Metrics Show The American Recovery is Best in the World – And Still Improving

None of this shit will matter when a fascist dictator is installed.

sunzu ,

People's wages don't matter? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

What sort of clown position is that? Your wage is one single number that defines how you live. That's the most important thing to every working adult esp if you have to take care of other people.

Are you even a liberal or just a brain dead political shill?

nick ,

✊🏻🍆💦

sunzu ,

A disgusting bootlicker spotted... Remember folks, this is the type guy telling to vote for his guy lol

nick ,

I’ve literally never said anything of the sort. Both candidates are utter dogshit and the sooner they log out of Minecraft, the better.

Allonzee , (edited ) in Pew finds nation divided on whether the American Dream is still possible

"But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got.

Because the owners of this country don’t want that. I’m talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers.

Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this fucking place. It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people – white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on – good honest hard-working people continue – these are people of modest means – continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t care about you at all – at all – at all.

And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That’s what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it’s called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.”

―George Carlin, 20 years ago

beetlejuice0001 ,

Incredible how relevant every word is today

Allonzee ,

Some call him a prophet, but I think he’d have preferred to have been called perceptive.

snausagesinablanket , in Biden’s Lapses Are Said to Be Increasingly Common and Worrisome
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Who said it besides CNN?

return2ozma ,
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This account is based on interviews with current and former White House aides, political advisers, administration officials, foreign diplomats, domestic allies and financial donors who saw Mr. Biden in the last few weeks, sometimes just briefly, sometimes for more extended periods. In most cases, they spoke on condition of anonymity because of the delicacy of the matter.

Paywall removed: archive.is/cDgdA

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  • Kaboom ,

    They never are. Hell, most of the articles about trump were anonymous sources

    treadful ,
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    And it’s a weird article, because about half the article is also (named) people saying the exact opposite during the same timeframe. So at best people close to him can’t even agree. Headline seems like bait.

    CaptainKickass , in Post-Debate Poll Shows 72% of Voters Say Biden Doesn’t Have Cognitive Health to Keep Serving as President

    What did those same respondents say about Trump’s fitness for the presidency?

    FFS you trolls are busy. I thought he was busily commiting genocide. Now he’s mentally deficient?

    Make up your damn minds.

    SuperCub OP ,

    Obviously you didn’t read the article because it’s in there.

    Biden isn’t the only candidate who didn’t fare well following his performance — 49% of registered voters also believe Donald Trump doesn’t have the mental and cognitive health to be president.

    Yes, Biden is aiding and abetting genocide, but that wasn’t part of the article. But literally 7/10 voters say Biden has lost the mental capacity to serve as president. It’s the reality whether you accept it or not.

    lennybird ,
    @lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

    Well said. The number of down-votes on hard truths like this submission but a complete lack of substantive argument prove they’re in denial.

    rocci ,

    The point is that Democrats are trotting out a senile genocide-enabling old man to defend democracy, and then blaming everyone who asks why

    SuperCub OP ,

    Posting polls ≠ trolling

    WorkIsSlow ,

    Trump is a legitimate threat to democracy.

    So shouldn’t we send literally anybody else? Isn’t Biden’s approval rating sub 40%?

    I agree with lesser evil voting and harm reductuon, but we’re not voting yet. They can maybe run somebody who might not throw the election.

    Midnight ,
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    Saying that Biden needs to be replaced is not the same as saying don’t vote for whoever is the Democratic candidate. I’ve been screaming into the void telling people to vote on Lemmy and even I think he needs to be switched out. The post debate polling is that damning.

    If the dems shove it down our throats I’m still voting for him, but there’s still a narrow window to get a better candidate and we should take it.

    ABCDE ,

    The vitriol from people ignoring the fact he looks completely fucked is bizarre. Why are people supporting someone with one foot in the grave?

    SuperCub OP ,

    Either they are Blue MAGA (cult of personality) or their true motive is to get Trump elected.

    SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

    What is blue MAGA?

    I’ve seen the term before on some far-right news site but I don’t understand what it means.

    Skullgrid ,
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    its bullshit projection.

    ABCDE ,

    What part is bullshit?

    Skullgrid ,
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    that people voting “blue” are doing it with the same ignorance as the MAGA lot, who are still following a criminal liar.

    apfelwoiSchoppen ,
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    There is a reddit comment that I condensed that summed it up well.

    Blue MAGA is a term used by progressives and leftists to define liberals who tends to punch left with “vote blue no matter who” rhetoric, especially when dismissing criticism of the Democratic party and candidates, who generally conform to all the negative neoliberal stereotypes while demanding that they still get support because the other guys are worse.

    Obviously, those people and others feel the same about “Genocide Joe” and that the lables still apply in the current election, where the same discourse from liberals is happening again.

    lennybird ,
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    Blind loyalists to blue guy instead of orange guy, devoid of evidence or reason to support their position… Mostly because they’re too skittish to promote the obviously better course of action. Big time bandwagoneers.

    SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

    What’s the better course of action here?

    lennybird , (edited )
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    I can get into deeper detail as I’ve done elsewhere in my recent comment history, but this DNC member of 30 years nails it. Watch the second half in particular, but the whole clip is relevant: youtu.be/DtmZjFBMU90

    This is the most important video out there right now.

    Edit: I love how you down-voted before you could’ve ever possibly viewed the clip. Truly, exceptional open mind you’ve got.

    ShepherdPie ,

    It’s the same team sport politics that MAGA supporters engage in.

    otp ,

    It’d be a fairer comparison if we could see Trump without all his makeup

    ABCDE ,

    Why are you angry? Who is a troll, Yahoo?

    dogslayeggs ,

    Nobody in the article or in this thread: “Genocide.”

    You: “This accurate reporting of real world polling doesn’t reflect my world view, so it must be trolling and be about genocide!!”

    CaptainKickass ,

    No, I was just commenting on how quickly the tactics had changed.

    You missed it. Again.

    dogslayeggs ,

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  • zabadoh , in Trump asks for conviction to be overturned after immunity ruling

    I hate to say this, but the only way to save US democracy is for Biden to use this new “absolute immunity” to arrest or assassinate the SCOTUS and DJT and other enemies of pluralistic democracy.

    I doubt that DJT and his allies would hesitate to do the same to their perceived “enemies”

    brachiosaurus ,

    This did not work out for the Roman Republic when Sulla did it. All it did was pave the way for Julius and Octavian to do it again later

    Zaktor ,

    He already wanted the National Guard to shoot BLM protesters. That seems like a pretty immune act in this ruling. Get some 18 year old conservative shithead guardsman pulled in from bumfuck county to the godless city to pull the trigger and start the shooting and he’s all good.

    TokenBoomer ,

    That is correct.👍

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