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Hubi , in 133 Degrees and No Ac: Kids at Angola Prison Kept in Potentially Deadly Heat

OJJ policy states that children can be sent to Angola from other facilities for any number of reasons, including committing certain acts of violence against a staff member or possessing marijuana. Even kids determined to have a serious mental illness or “significant developmental disabilities” can be transferred to the unit.

Charles C. was hospitalized at 10 years old and diagnosed with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and ADHD, according to a previous statement submitted to the court. He was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder after being shot at age 13 and has been hospitalized several times for mental health crises.

In addition to the unbearable heat, Charles reported that a staff member had thrown him against the wall, which made him bleed. He said he’d been denied access to educational programs and is often hungry because he doesn’t have enough food.

This is so inhumane. It’s the kind of stuff you’d expect of third world dictatorships. Fix your shit America, seriously.

thorbot , (edited ) in I lost my job to ChatGPT and was made obsolete. I was out of work for 3 months before taking a new job passing out samples at grocery stores.

“I have no skills that couldn’t easily be automated, please have sympathy for me”

I guess her “undeniable beauty” isn’t enough to carry her to fame and fortune. What a pitiful article.

nyar , (edited )

Copy done by ai is dull garbage.

KonekoSalem ,

Whatever ai is meant to be replacing here has to be garbage to begin with, if ai can replace it.

cassetti ,

Remember when big corporations thought they could outsource 100% of customer service to india many years ago? Remember how well that went?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdichter/2019/03/30/call-centers-return-to-the-u-s-more-companies-get-the-link-between-customer-service-and-profit/

Jaysyn ,
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Because of a related fiasco, two of the largest communications companies in the USA won't allow Indian subcontractors for design work at all unless directly overseen by one of their American contractors.

cassetti ,

And the same thing is happening with AI. Friend of mine who is a programmer has a few side projects for customers. One of them got impatient trying to get him to fix a bug in their software. So instead they tried to use ChatGPT to fix the bug, and it went as well as can be expected.

Having worked with ChatGPT to program code, I've seen it literally invent fake modules, declare variables, call up this fake module and then never bother to declare the code for that special module (which supposedly does 99% of what you want it to do). And if you ask it to program the missing module, it simply declares that module and calls up a new magical module that still does 99% of the desired work. It's and endless loop that goes nowhere lol

SpaceNoodle ,

And there are still loads of call centers staying in India and the Philippines.

cassetti ,

And there will be loads of companies who insist on using AI in the future..... but not all will - because they'll learn that like everything, there are limits to it's capabilities.

tumble_weeds ,

Companies fuck up all the time kid

sethw ,

I've read lots of dull copy written by humans

SheeEttin ,

But it’s cheaper than dull garbage written by a human.

PeepinGoodArgs ,

That is actually a good reason to be sympathetic, being displaced by new technology.

Kichae , (edited )

Yeah, I'm not sure where this attitude of "Fuck people who did work and developed skills in fields that employers thought were necessary, but now suddenly the new hotness is believing that they're not" is coming from. Smug superiority based on the avenue through which you allow yourself to be exploited is pretty fucking dark, and says nothing good about the people espousing that mindset.

Edit: Unsurprisingly downvoted by someone who seems to have mistaken themselves as smarter than the average bear and unreplaceable. "I was interested in a thing that turned out to be more lucrative than you" isn't a good enough reason to look down on other people, folks. None of us deserve more comfort than anyone else, especially not because we liked something other people didn't. Believing otherwise is just anti-social, sociopathic bullshit.

PeepinGoodArgs ,

It’s neoliberal economics where the economy exists for its own sake.

thorbot ,

You’re generalizing a LOT here. The attitude isn’t typically “fuck people who did work”… it’s “I don’t have sympathy for you if your job role was so piss poor that a language model could scrape up data already present in the world and slap it together better than you can.” AI is still extremely limited and the results it produces are fed from other sources, and very soon itself, as it generates more and more. A human is capable of complex, self critical, unique thoughts. If the human in that job role was doing any sort of critical thinking, a robot would not be able to replace them. AI isn’t all powerful and all knowing. It’s pretty shit. And if you can be replaced by it, you’re shit at your job.

Kichae ,

If you don't have sympathy for people because they lost their livelihood, and the reason for that loss isn't that they were themselves rotten people making other people's lives worse, then you're a rotten person.

Full stop. End of discussion. Kindly exit society, we don't need more people like you in it.

iopq ,

This person was writing email advertising. It’s the kind of job that’s not necessary to society, it would be better if people never did it ever again

agent_flounder ,
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Your opinion on necessity is a red herring. That isn’t the system we are in. We are in a market system (for better or worse) that determines what jobs exist and how much they’re worth in compensation.

Besides if it were all about bare necessity, we could pare down most jobs. I mean heck, let’s go back to being hunter-gatherers. We don’t need anything more to survive as a species. (And all this bullshit we do every day dumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere will guarantee our demise, most likely).

iopq ,

I mean to say is that this job being eliminated is market efficiency at its best, since this job not existing and being done by dumb AI is good enough. Nobody will cry about lower quality copy in email ads

lolcatnip ,

It’s just another variation of “fuck you, I got mine.”

Asafum ,

I have some friends like this… It’s so frustrating. They have no idea how lucky they are to be so interested in such lucrative careers… They’d literally sit at home during the summer and work on things they found interesting. Yes they worked for it, I’ll never say they didn’t, but they didn’t have to FORCE themselves to do it, they were having fun…

Now they’re wealthy and enjoying work while I’m stuck in a literal sweatshop because everything I find interesting are just hobbies that can’t be monetized… But fuck me for not being “valuable.”

CrunchyBoy ,

I think the “undeniable beauty” bit was a joke.

I think she has a good point at the end. Lots of us think we have skills that can’t be replicated by a machine, but companies would rather have something replicated poorly by a machine if it saves them money.

ClassyDave ,

Of course they would, that's the point of the company! Companies don't align with our needs as humans. Ideally we'd have more free time due to advancements and automation, but our corporate overlords think we should just work more actually. And old people who got theirs don't think anyone should have it easy since they didn't.

CrunchyBoy ,

True, but I meant to emphasize that the quality of the work is not as important as some people might think. For a lot of bosses the work quality from a machine only needs to be passable, not good. So while one might say “AI would suck at my job, I’m safe” they might need to be worried.

Jaysyn ,
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I don't think anyone expected "creative" careers to be replaceable by AI even 5 years ago.

Roundcat , (edited )
@Roundcat@kbin.social avatar

I mean, the expectation was there would never be an artificial intelligence capable of coming up with its own ideas, having it's own inspiration and be able to create based on its own experiences.

The reality is it didn't have to. All it took was mass work theft, and machine able to take the bits and pieces of those works, and shuffle them into a production that matched the user's parameters.

Honestly, I wish we were dealing with actual "artificial intelligence" that was capable of its own thoughts, inspiration, feelings, and experiences. That could paint a picture or write a story based on its own experiences, and maybe give its own perspective as a machine that would further push the boundaries of what is possible in art and story telling.

Instead, I get to realize that in reality, all art and storytelling is mixing and matching the same parts into something different, and that we have built a machine so efficient at doing it, there is no need for humans to do it.

I already kinda knew that I was never going to have a career doing anything creative, but all this "AI" boom has shown me is that no matter how "skilled" or "creative" I become, those bits and pieces can be broken down into something cheap enough that my involvement is no longer necessary.

lunarshot , in I lost my job to ChatGPT and was made obsolete. I was out of work for 3 months before taking a new job passing out samples at grocery stores.
@lunarshot@lemmy.world avatar

This is a complex issue!

On one hand, I’m not sure what kind of consistent and great results people are getting with GPT today. It’s an amazing tool but it is still lacking in a lot of ways.

Into the future? I think a lot of the jobs will change dramatically and entirely new ones will exist.

Adaptation is necessary in life, a disruptive technology has been created and we are just starting to understand it.

Phanatik ,

The results which are probably not ideal isn't so much of a problem when you factor in the costs. GPT is good good enough for far cheaper and that's why people are being replaced.

RocksForBrains ,

I use it for various tasks but I treat it like a tool. I understand it can’t make miracles, and I make sure I’m feeding it the right information to produce my desired result.

It saves me a decent amount of time and effort in rote work while the creative inputs still come from me.

As with anything, proofread and edit heavily to ensure it all makes sense.

dudinax , in I lost my job to ChatGPT and was made obsolete. I was out of work for 3 months before taking a new job passing out samples at grocery stores.

That’s why I’ve seen so many dead-eyed sample passers taking the jobs of old ladies.

originalucifer , in I lost my job to ChatGPT and was made obsolete. I was out of work for 3 months before taking a new job passing out samples at grocery stores.
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

the horse whip & buggy industry still hasnt recovered

Jaysyn , (edited ) in I lost my job to ChatGPT and was made obsolete. I was out of work for 3 months before taking a new job passing out samples at grocery stores.
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

I thought my job would have been automated already, but it turns out that AI doesn't make an acceptable scapegoat when things go wrong.

Rayspekt ,

Now introducing AI Fall Guy

SuddenDownpour , in Kremlin accuses West of turning blind eye to Ukrainian 'terrorist attacks' against Russia

“This woman stabbed me with a knife while I was trying to push her down! Why does she get a pass while I’m the evil one for trying to force myself on her!?”

YoBuckStopsHere , in Kremlin accuses West of turning blind eye to Ukrainian 'terrorist attacks' against Russia
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

Crimea isn’t Russia.

aleph ,
@aleph@lemm.ee avatar

“Yes it is - Russia peacefully took the land back in 2014 and now Ukraine and NATO are the bloodythirsty aggressors who have started a war there” - comments on lemmygrad, probably.

YoBuckStopsHere ,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

Peacefully? They slaughtered, raped, and kidnapped the local population. Then they started shooting down passenger jets.

wildcardology ,

Woosh

larlyssa , (edited ) in A 16-year-old has died at a Mississippi poultry processing plant, county coroner says

Pardon my delicate city sensibilities but I don’t think children should be working in meat processing plants surrounded by death and danger.

BoxOfFeet ,

Have they not read “The Jungle”? Pretty sure this exact sort of thing was addressed a hundred years ago.

reverendsteveii ,

the thing about The Jungle was that we were supposed to read it and think “people need better working conditions” but a shockingly large number of people read it and thought “we need some sort of filtering system in place to keep all those immigrant thumbs out of the sausage”

joel_feila ,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

I aimed for their hearts but I hit them in their stomachs

Bimbus ,

I thought it was actually illegal for him to be working there? Maybe I misread another post.

larlyssa ,

You’re right, I hadn’t read that yet at the time I posted this.

Retraction: It appears that minors are not allowed to be working in meat processing plants, but that he was hired by an external staffing contractor who did not properly adhere to those restrictions.

III ,

hired by an external staffing contractor who did not properly adhere to those restrictions

All by design…

Nacktmull ,
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Welcome to the USA - the land of the free!

Nougat , in I lost my job to ChatGPT and was made obsolete. I was out of work for 3 months before taking a new job passing out samples at grocery stores.

People had these same concerns are troubles during the industrial revolution, when machines started to work better, faster, and cheaper than human labor doing the same job. Is there going to be a serious upheaval in labor again? Yup. Is it a bad thing for the world? In some ways yes, in other ways no.

The industrial revolution has done horrible things to the global environment. At the same time, many more people are much better off today than they were in the early 19th century.

YoBuckStopsHere OP ,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

AI isn’t better, it is cheaper.

XTL ,

Worse is better, and cheaper is the best kind of better.

Nougat ,

It's not better yet, or for everything (arguably not for most things), and the first forays into mechanization of industry weren't, either. We're at the very beginning here.

ComMcNeil ,

Which is actually not a big difference to what companies have done the past couple of decades, namely moving positions from high-cost to low-cost countries. Cost for an AI is problably easier to mask in the balance sheet as well, as costs for human resources.

Kolrami ,

AI is already better… than some people. A human using AI is probably better and faster at certain tasks than a somewhat skilled human is.

I bet midjourney is better at making concept art than the vast majority of the population.

I think we have a high threshold for success of AI. I saw a video a while back about how AlphaGo (an AI designed for playing Go) was able to beat a whole bunch of experts in Go. One expert used an atypical move and beat AlphaGo. People started reacting like “see? AI isn’t impressive. This genius beat it.” How many of us are geniuses? How often will geniuses beat better AI?

YoBuckStopsHere OP ,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

I subscribe to Grammerly and that is AI. I use it to rewrite my paragraphs to sound better.

TheFutureIsDelaware , (edited )

This is not like the industrial revolution. You really should examine why you think “we figured other things out in the past” is such an appealing narrative to you that you’re willing to believe the reassurance it gives you over the clear evidence in front of you. But I’ll just quote Hofstadter (someone who has enough qualifications that their opinion should make you seriously question whether you have arrived at yours based on wishful thinking or facial evidence):

“And my whole intellectual edifice, my system of beliefs… It’s a very traumatic experience when some of your most core beliefs about the world start collapsing. And especially when you think that human beings are soon going to be eclipsed. It felt as if not only are my belief systems collapsing, but it feels as if the entire human race is going to be eclipsed and left in the dust soon. People ask me, “What do you mean by ‘soon’?” And I don’t know what I really mean. I don’t have any way of knowing. But some part of me says 5 years, some part of me says 20 years, some part of me says, “I don’t know, I have no idea.” But the progress, the accelerating progress, has been so unexpected, so completely caught me off guard, not only myself but many, many people, that there is a certain kind of terror of an oncoming tsunami that is going to catch all humanity off guard.”

Nougat ,

Bald-faced appeal to authority, okay. With a side of putting words in my mouth that I clearly did not say.

The industrial revolution destroyed some jobs, and created others. Destroyed some industries, and created others. We've been in an "information revolution" for some time, where electronic computers have supplanted human computers, and opened up an enormous realm of communication, discovery, and availability of information to so many more people than ever before in history. This is simply true.

Just as the landscape of human physical labor was forever changed by the industrial revolution, the landscape of human thinking labor will continue to be forever changed by this information revolution. AI is a potential accelerator of this information revolution, which we are already seeing the impacts of, even at this extremely early stage in the development of AI. There will be both good and bad outcomes.

TheFutureIsDelaware , (edited )

Appealing to authority is useful. We all do it every day. And like I said, all it should do is make you question whether you’ve really thought about it enough.

Every single thing you’re saying has no bearing on how AI will turn out. None.
If a 0 is “we figured it out” and 1 is “we go extinct”, here is what all possible histories look like in terms of “how things that could have made us go extinct actually turned out”:

1
01
001
0001
00001
000001
0000001
00000001
etc.

You are looking at 00000000 and assuming there can’t be a 1 next, because of how many zeroes there have been. Every extinction event will be preceded by a bunch of not extinction events.

But again, it is strange that you can label an appeal to authority, but not realize how much worse an “appeal to the past” is.

Nougat ,

You don't seem to have actually read anything I've written, and just want to argue with someone.

TheFutureIsDelaware ,

Nope. I certainly have. It’s the same arguments I’ve been hearing from people dismissing AI alignment concerns for 10 years. There’s nothing new there, and it all maps onto exactly the wishful thinking I’m talking about.

Nougat ,

You don't seem to have actually read anything I've written, and just want to argue with someone.

Based on the fact that I have not anywhere "[dismissed] AI alignment concerns," I stand by the above statement.

Kichae ,

Bald-faced appeal to authority, okay.

You understand that the fallacy is the appeal to false authority, right? Not just any authority?

Swinging the partial names of logical fallacies around like a poorly wielded shield isn't actually an argument. It's just an attempt to poison the well.

LanternEverywhere ,

Absolutely agree. We all have a strong drive to feel that what we do is unique and special, but that doesn't make it true. From the mundane to the artistic, AI already can do a large amount of what people do, and there's every reason to believe that AI's abilities will grow quickly and will surpass humans abilities. Based on the evidence it looks like this is gonna happen within the next few years - like within 5.

When AI is able to replace most jobs, as a society what do we do when there are no jobs for the large majority of people? Humanity is going to go through a tough upheaval more disruptive than anything ever before. We're gonna have to figure out how to completely reorganize how we exist, what we do in our daily lives, and how we think of ourselves as a species.

HeavenAndHell ,
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OK but that’s comparing apples to oranges. The AI revolution will be NOTHING like the industrial revolution.

athos77 , in Does The Kentucky Attorney General Go To Work? An Investigation.

This article reads like a blind item in a gossip column; I hate it.

The blank pages span all the way back to January 2020, which was the last time Cameron was registered using his key fob to enter the building.

Well, gee, what did happen in January 2020? Maybe the man has good reason to need to avoid people during a global pandemic.

And before everyone is like "that's too early": no, it isn't. I was a close reader of the news, and I knew covid was coming to the US in January 2020 and had started stocking up on N95 masks, hand sanitizer and surgical gloves by that point.

Before everyone is all "why isn't he going in now, the pandemic is over": it isn't over for everyone. It most particularly isn't over for the people we were told to stay home to try to save: the immunocompromised.

So yeah, that's my theory: the man follows the news closely, and is immunocompromised.

Why doesn't the state (or he) explain that? I don't know, maybe they're scared of their understanding of HIPAA, maybe he's afraid announcing it will cost him relationships or his job or his political ambitions - people are needlessly weird about some diseases/chronic conditions, I can understand not wanting to say something.

For me, the more relevant question is: is he doing his job? I don't care if he needs medical accommodations like needing to be kept away from people (in deep-red Kentucky, which has a decent percentage of covid deniers and absolute no-mask/no-vax "yes, I'll lie about it if I want to" contrarians) who may kill him - is he doing his job? That's all that matters.

Derproid ,

Fucking stellar breakdown. Yeah first reaction of “he’s not working” makes sense but your explanation is just as plausible (if not more since he’s been in the news for doing his job according to other comments).

gAlienLifeform OP ,
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It’d be pretty hypocritical if he was doing this to protect his own health after spending so much time fighting against the efforts of the governor to do the same for other citizens of the state, but fortunately there’s no reason to believe this is the case.

As this article notes,

The attorney general has definitely been in the state Capitol at least a handful of times since he was sworn in in December 2019. HuffPost searched Associated Press and Reuters photo databases for images of Cameron inside the building. A few turned up.

[Italics in original]

No, the only way his health could be causing this behavior is if he has an allergic reaction to having to follow the same security protocols as the people who work for him, or if the thought of journalists being able to easily cross reference his comings and goings with different lobbyists seen in the Capitol gives him hives or something

EhList ,
@EhList@lemmy.world avatar

While that would be rational you need to account for the fact that he might just not be coming to the office.

BertramDitore , in 2 Women Attacked by Bison While Visiting National Parks
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I hope she’s okay.

I wonder if bison have some form of genetic memory. If so, they might have a beef with us humans…

burntbutterbiscuits ,

If by humans you mean white people

BertramDitore ,
@BertramDitore@lemmy.world avatar

True that.

postmateDumbass ,

Because native americans never killed buffalo?

burntbutterbiscuits ,

Are you being intentionally obtuse

postmateDumbass ,

Nope. See also lack of rainfall.

DarkGamer , in Kremlin accuses West of turning blind eye to Ukrainian 'terrorist attacks' against Russia
@DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

Self-defense against an enemy that is killing you isn't terrorism.

Amilo159 , in Afghanistan: Women protest against beauty salon closures
@Amilo159@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a fucking disgrace of a country, ruled by illiterate apes.

bdonvr , in 133 Degrees and No Ac: Kids at Angola Prison Kept in Potentially Deadly Heat

Oh and this is in Louisiana, USA. Not Angola the country in Africa just in case you missed that.

MaxVoltage , (edited )
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Dude those guys are on so much spice they don’t care if it’s 200 celculius.

Guys it was joke but it is also like the real deal situation

ItchySunItchyKnee ,

That has nothing to do with this conversation at all. Also, that is kind of ignorant.

MaxVoltage ,
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I have been to prison have you?

regular_human ,
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Shut up, nerd

MaxVoltage ,
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I love you please keep responding to All my comments with this I will venmo you dollars

nostalgicgamerz ,

Whataboutism justifying humanitarian violations

FlyingSquid ,
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They may not care, but their body does. You can’t drug your way out of heat exhaustion.

MaxVoltage ,
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They do in fact die from the heat

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