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_haha_oh_wow_ , in Fulton County district attorney is likely to present her case against Trump to grand jury next week
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Trump is the best president when it comes to getting indicted!

Mon0 , in Students banned from using nicknames under new anti-trans Florida schools guidance

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  • gamer ,

    I think the only people who vote in state elections are political nerds. The average person in Florida probably didn’t know that much about Desantis before he started trying to run for president.

    Ragnell ,
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    @Mon0 Voter suppression is rampant in the US.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    My city demographics are about 80% white 20% Asian and the household income average is over 100k. It has changed a bit but it was fairly reliable GOP for a while. My polling place is walking distance from my house. If I am lazy I can drive and there is a massive parking lot. No lines, I have timed it, walking in to getting in the booth in under a minute. We are also (I was a poll worker a few years ago) able to brag that in the entire history of the provisional ballet system we have never once thrown out a vote. The goal is no eligible voter turned away.

    The city next to mine is nearly all POC and reliable DNC, they have less places to vote, and every single election there are news reports of multiple hour long lines.

    If voting didn’t matter they wouldn’t be working so fucking hard from denying it to certain groups. Vote vote vote!

    peopleproblems , in Previously Secret Memo Laid Out Strategy for Trump to Overturn Biden’s Win

    Talk about throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.

    Even acknowledging that the Supreme Court would reject it. A Supreme Court they stacked in their favor. What the absolute fuck lol

    yip-bonk ,
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    Remember that Venezuela coup they sponsored? That was like 3 actual ex-Navy guys and about 20 fishermen whose boats they hired? Lasted all of 10 minutes? That’s the brain trust behind the big lie. Master strategists they ain’t. I mean, thank goodness, since they’re utterly devoid of scruples, ethics, honor, or simple human decency.

    SupraMario , in Massachusetts governor declares emergency and urges help for migrants

    Hates that conservative states are trying to enforce immigration laws…gets pissed that they’re being shipped up to them… that’s not what we mean. Surprised Pikachu face

    Eldritch ,

    Kidnapping and human trafficking are not enforcing immigration laws. How rotten is your brain to think that it is?

    SupraMario ,

    Who kidnapped anyone, and human trafficked them? Are these people being sold as sex slaves or are they now in a state that was required to house them?

    Eldritch ,

    Republicans in Texas and Florida. You know this. You just don’t care about the actual facts.

    SupraMario ,

    Show me where these people were kidnapped and trafficked?

    Eldritch ,

    They literally talk about it in the article. Why does it not surprise me that you don’t actually read. Just consume your propaganda whole and unquestioned.

    SupraMario ,

    lol, no they did not. There is no point in the article that bussing immigrants to blue states is kidnapping and trafficked…the fuck is wrong with you people.

    Eldritch ,

    Lying to people and taking them where they don’t want to go is literally kidnapping them. But leave it to a conservative apologist to feign their actual ignorance.

    SupraMario ,

    Doesn’t sound like they didn’t want to go there, they got free housing and a better safety net for illegals there.

    Lol thinking I’m a conservative

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Since when does a state have a right to expel people from their own state and forcibly relocate them to another state?

    SupraMario ,

    Technically they should have deported someone who is here illegally.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Why? That’s a civil violation and a federal one. It is not a state crime. It is not the job of any individual state to deport anyone.

    Redditiscancer789 ,

    I do suppose you have a comment about how those same conservative states have been given hundreds of millions of tax dollars to do this exact thing, yet haven’t, don’t you?

    SupraMario ,

    Considering they’re dealing with a massive border and not state lines… I’m confused about why you think one which is cool with unmitigated flow of people into the country and whining when they made a law to house everyone no questions asked…and the other which is trying to stop it.

    Or are you ok with mass amounts of people flooding into the country? Because they don’t allow it over in the EU or in Australia or NZ…both are used constantly as beacons of how the USA should be.

    Redditiscancer789 ,

    So you agree then that the lower states shouldn’t receive money then if they refuse to actually do anything about it? Especially since mass. is double dipping by giving money to those lower states to do exactly what they’re doing, plus also opening their own communities for these people.

    SupraMario ,

    Do anything about what? If they’re not properly enforcing the laws by shipping people to another state to make a point, yes they should lose funding. ICE should be handling the borders anyways. It’s a federal jurisdiction not a state one. Why ICE likes to use state resources is beyond me. 20k people ICE employs, it needs to be a lot more to secure the land bridge we have.

    style99 ,
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    I shudder to think what else you find funny. I suppose someone getting thrown into an oven makes you giggle, doesn't it?

    SupraMario ,

    How did you come up with burning people from blue states acting like immigrants should be just allowed into this country with no procedures and laws that need to be followed?

    Jaysyn , in Voters in Ohio reject GOP-backed proposal that would have made it tougher to protect abortion rights
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    Because fuck you, GOP. That's why.

    Rac3r4Life , in Car crashes into second floor of Pennsylvania house
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    Damn! Is Pennsylvania becoming Florida?

    eltimablo ,

    Other way around, actually. There are Wawas in Florida now.

    5redie8 ,

    Wawa was founded in Florida

    raptir ,

    Wawa was founded in what is now Wawa, Pennsylvania.

    eltimablo ,

    I absolutely assure you it was not. You must be from Florida.

    5redie8 ,

    My bad, I have no idea how I managed to fuck that up so bad. On call work hours making me delirious lmao. I am proudly northeastern!

    extant ,

    But are there Sheetz?

    Hazdaz , in Biden to reinstate labor rule shelved by Reagan, giving construction workers a pay boost

    The members of those same labor unions will “reward” Biden by voting for Trump. The number of workers in the trades who are blind MAGAts is astonishing.

    This move will not change that.

    And it doesn’t help that Democrats will do nothing to sell this news to these people either. As always Democrats act like their accomplishments are like the 7 herbs and spices in the KFC recipe or the special formula for Coke… well hidden so no one finds out about it.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Ok, but it’s still a good thing, right?

    Hazdaz ,

    Yes, but ADVERTISE it. Sell your accomplishments because lord knows, no one else will. The news media has been actively attacking stuff that Biden has done while giving Trump one free-pass after another. The news media is not on our side. So if they won’t celebrate Democratic wins, Democrats need to, and turn it into a big deal.

    Chef_Boyardee ,

    IBEW Local 26 member here. Journeyman Electrical Foreman.

    Most states with strong union participation are blue states. Many red states are against unions.

    I get where you are coming from, but especially considering construction workers are 3% of the workforce in America, one can’t expect my idiot coworkers to have much of an impact.

    Also, Biden or Trump, I don’t care. I don’t trust any of these rich people in politics. They are all crooks, IMHO.

    JoeBigelow ,
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    You should probably care regardless.

    Chef_Boyardee ,

    Write-ins, amigo.

    Car ,

    Don’t discount yourself or your coworkers - shifting the votes of 3% of Americans could have changed the election results of almost every presidential election since 1992 if they went from the winning candidate to the losing candidate.

    The top dogs being crooks sucks, but shouldn’t mean that the only acceptable response is political apathy - not doing anything is functionally equivalent to acceptance of the status quo.

    Chef_Boyardee ,

    Oh, I still vote. I never said that. I just write in my candidates.

    PunnyName ,

    Once we have ranked voting, that would work.

    Otherwise it’s naive to think that vote does anything to help you or yours.

    yata ,

    So in practice you are handing your vote to the GOP and Trump. Congratulations on having been convinced by the “apathetic” narrative into handing power over to the GOP.

    systemglitch ,

    The two party system is the real joke.

    Dagwood222 ,

    Reagan tried to kill the Unions. After boasting about being head of Screen Actors Guild.

    There’s a difference.

    Grant_M ,
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    They aren’t all the same.

    PunnyName ,

    One party is banning books…

    BlackSpasmodic ,

    The other thinks it’s important to get along with the book burners. They think the book burners are decent people who are just misguided on a few issues. They act like civil debate will solve all problems.

    prole ,

    Which makes them just as bad… 🙄

    dmention7 ,

    Source: Totally didn’t just pull this out of my ass to construct a shitty strawman.

    PunnyName ,

    You’re speaking of the same group.

    The “other” doesn’t want to deal with book burners, and wants them to stop.

    davetapley ,

    Big difference with Trump is that a win in 2024 will be the end of democracy in USA.

    I’m not being dramatic: He’ll pardon himself for everything (as already established) and then use stacked supreme court / police / military / mob rule to prevent himself being removed again.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Only one of those two people said that parts of the Constitution should be terminated and it wasn’t Biden. I’d say you should care about that, but your mileage may vary.

    gardylou ,

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  • Hazdaz ,

    The Left loves to pretend that they are so media savvy. That they know all the trends and how to navigate the social media wilderness and what is happening out there. Clearly they don’t or else they should leverage that supposed knowledge to market their ideas to the entire nation.

    In short, what should Democrats be doing? The exact OPPOSITE of what they are doing now.

    Actually celebrate their wins. I know part of why they don’t is pure cluelessness - they legitimately think that average Joes will find out about these programs on their own. They don’t. Average voters have no idea of what happens in Washington.

    Part of it is because Democrats are meek. God forbid they ever go on the offensive and get the media’s attention on topics.

    Lastly, part of it is typical “liberal guilt”. The incredibly annoying attitude that some have that god forbid we celebrate anything good, because there might be some one else who isn’t doing so well. It brings down everyone’s mood and makes it so that Democrats are always looking to the bad side of even positive news. Biden tomorrow could announce that nuclear fussion is viable and the country will have free energy, and there will be some on the Left who will complain that fission might negatively impact the northern tree bullfrog or some other meaningless bullshit like that.

    K1nsey6 ,
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    It wasn’t Republicans that sent most of the union manufacturing jobs overseas.

    They can’t sell it because voters are smarter than this, ‘most pro union President ever’ busting up union strikes doesn’t pull a strong vote of confidence

    Hazdaz ,

    So you’re saying CEOs aren’t Republican?

    This link says that 70% of CEOs are Republican and CEOs have direct control over a company’s labor force. Maximizing profits for shareholder profit is what CEOs do, and shipping jobs overseas is the easiest, and laziest, ways of doing that.

    news.harvard.edu/…/top-business-execs-more-polari…

    K1nsey6 ,
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    Capital isnt loyal to any one party.

    PunnyName ,

    More loyal to one. Significantly.

    yata , (edited )

    No, but it knows where to buy loyalty the cheapest.

    dmention7 ,

    Right? It’s like, no shit capital doesn’t have some ideological tie to one party or another, but it’s pretty moronic to ignore the inverse.

    BlackSpasmodic ,

    Exactly! Both parties are owned.

    girlfreddy ,
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    K1nsey6 ,
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    @girlfreddy @K1nsey6 @Hazdaz

    NAFTA, originally drafted under Reagan, and spearheaded by Clinton to get it passed, gave our manufacturing away.

    girlfreddy ,
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    K1nsey6 ,
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    Can you not read your own source?

    “All three countries ratified NAFTA in 1993”

    girlfreddy ,
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    @K1nsey6

    The first NAFTA between Canada and the US was signed in 1988. The second one, signed in 1993, included Mexico.

    The above is also included in the link I gave, or did you just ignore that part?

    K1nsey6 ,
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    ‘The impetus for a North American free trade zone began with U.S. president Ronald Reagan, who made the idea part of his 1980 presidential campaign. After the signing of the Canada–United States Free Trade Agreement in 1988, the administrations of U.S. president George H. W. Bush, Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari, and Canadian prime minister Brian Mulroney agreed to negotiate what became NAFTA

    The Canada–United States Free Trade Agreement superseded by NAFTA.

    girlfreddy ,
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    @K1nsey6

    You are simply saying the same thing over and over again and you're still wrong. Arguing semantics is silly at best.

    The first trade agreement was signed by Reagan and Mulroney. I remember the negotiations happening and was disgusted by how Mulroney simply caved to what Reagan wanted (as many other Canadians were at the time).

    The agreement never helped Canada at all. It was only good for the US exports. It didn't lower costs to us or help Canada.

    ThrowawayInTheYear23 ,
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    Blame the CEOs and stockholders for profit before country.

    gardylou ,

    I agree but don’t blame dems that they can’t penetrate the propaganda networks and social media spaces owned and dominated by right wingers–they are effectively closed loops at this point.

    HawlSera ,

    It doesn’t matter if it is a popular move. Only that it was the right move.

    TheHighRoad ,
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    It really sucks that Democratic policies tend to have a massive impact but take a long time to produce, while conservative policies have an equally huge impact but take no time to destroy everything.

    FlyingSquid , in Much of historic Lahaina town believed destroyed as huge wildfire sends people fleeing into water
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    Former capital of the Kingdom of Hawai’i. Hawai’ian history erased once again.

    utopianfiat OP ,

    Not sure why you’re being downvoted- you’re absolutely right and it’s a horrible loss of history for the atoll and its ancestral stewards.

    broguy89 , in In Tuesday's special election, Ohioans overwhelmingly voted against requiring a supermajority to amend their state constitution

    The article says 57% voted no, not 60%.

    Dark_Arc ,
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    And…?

    QHC ,

    That is less than the proposed change which invalidates the “irony” angle. Pretty significant detail in context.

    glimse , in Biden says he plans to travel to Vietnam 'shortly'

    (President wishes to make amends for the atrocities his country committed in the past) hurr durr he’s gonna bomb them

    Infinity187 , in Voters in Ohio reject GOP-backed proposal that would have made it tougher to protect abortion rights

    Fuck the GOP and fuck anyone who supports that trash.

    Red_October , in Students banned from using nicknames under new anti-trans Florida schools guidance

    Did you know that in the worst case sea level scenario due to climate change, all of Florida will be completely underwater? That means that while the world IS headed toward an inhospitable hellscape, at least we have the silver lining of seeing Florida completely eradicated.

    youthinkyouknowme ,

    Idk, wouldn’t they spread to other states or maybe most move to the same location and then turn that place into new Florida

    Gustephan ,

    That would entail admitting that climate change is real and that GQP mythos was wrong about something. Based on the way we handled covid, I wouldn’t worry about most floridians migrating due to climate change

    TheDoozer ,

    So basically deny it’s happening until the water is up to their necks, then start talking about the importance of boats while they drown?

    DLSchichtl ,

    Let’s build a wall!

    youthinkyouknowme ,

    Wait where have I seen this before

    archonet ,

    New Florida already exists. It’s called Ohio.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Considering the victory Ohioans just had, I don’t know about that.

    archonet ,

    listen, Florida is more than a set of policy decisions by pudding fingers, Florida is a state of mind.

    I assure you, Ohio residents are equally batshit. I live in Erie, PA and deal with them regularly.

    blue_zephyr ,

    You’re not thinking this through. Every Florida man alive will flee to dry land. Florida is a people, not a place.

    Iusedtobeanadventurer ,

    Did you know that most voters in Florida don’t agree with this shit and that taking glee in the potential eradication of an entire people and their home is exactly the same kind of shit that racists do when they blame all Muslims for terrorism or Hitler and the Nazis did when they targeted a population for their religion (or for simply being related to someone who was a Jew)?

    The examples of this “they’re the bad guys” generalism is part of the problem. If you’re really so enlightened, don’t be part of the problem, too, it only alienates more who might be part of solving the problem if they weren’t ostracized over something as stupid as their birthplace or where they choose to live.

    reddithalation ,

    I mean they voted for the people that do this stuff. Just by nature of how voting works, a majority of them likely agree.

    jimbo ,

    “Floridian” is not “a people” in the sense you’re trying to use the word (I mean, really, comparing them to the Jews, lol). If someone wants to stick around while the ocean slowly swallows up the panhandle, that’s their business.

    prole ,

    DeSantis won his last election by the largest margin in a Florida election in over 40 years

    If this isn’t what people there want, they’ve got a very strange way of showing it.

    mojo ,

    They’ll just leave and ruin everywhere else. At least they’re contained in their shit hole

    Skepticpunk ,

    Ahh, the Florida Containment Theory.

    Reverendender ,

    “Those shithole states.”

    -Donald Trump probably

    utopianfiat , in Mules who smuggle fentanyl across the border are often U.S. citizens

    Doesn’t a lot of the fent get smuggled in from China comingled with normal cargo?

    pepperprepper , in Supreme Court reinstates regulation of ghost guns, firearms without serial numbers

    This just says they can’t sell 80%s and the rest of a firearm in the same shopping cart. Doesn’t seem like much of a restriction to home makers.

    haulyard , in No bail for Chicago man accused of fatally shooting 9-year-old girl 'completely unprovoked'
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    Read that the girls mom was shot and killed a while earlier. Just crazy. Feel horrible for that family.

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