So you’re saying it’s not news to you that a rock concert could cause an earthquake? Because it’s sure as hell news to me. Does it matter who was playing at the concert?
Words can have more than one definition… you’re looking at what constitutes a Natural Disaster Earthquake, there’s also just the definition, earthquake….
And yes, seismic activity l absolutely can shake buildings and crack pavement… you’re now contradicting yourself? Do you even know what point you’re arguing anymore?
She didn’t, she caused seismic activity, that when high enough on the Richter scale would constitute an earthquake.
You tried correcting someone and were wrong mate, this is entirely on you lmfao. If you can’t take it, don’t fucking dish it you mook.
Go back and read the comments again… lmfao. They never said she caused an earthquake, they key word you completely missed was “could”. They also never in fact mentioned her at all in the comment even! As I said you don’t even know what you’re arguing anymore.
earthquake, any sudden shaking of the ground caused by the passage of seismic waves through Earth’s rocks. Seismic waves are produced when some form of energy stored in Earth’s crust is suddenly released, usually when masses of rock straining against one another suddenly fracture and “slip.”
People jumping up and down, fit that definition, and they actually specify that it’s not “just” masses of rock (tectonic plates)
TYL, you are welcome, go read some books and “touch grass”.
Go argue with Britannia or something, they clearly state it’s not just tectonic movement like you claimed…. what do you have to say about that mook?
I am sorry you thought that a natural disaster was the only defintion of the word “earthquake”, you’re everything wrong with todays education system. Read more, please.
For what it’s worth this is super common at that venue. Not trying to take anything away from the story, it was really surprising to me when I learned it also.
I don’t follow Swift or her die-hard fans, but this white supremacist" bit is news to me. Is this a real documented fact, or the usual overblown internet reaction to an assumption based on an extrapolation from a decade-old retweet?
From a quick search, it appears that a bunch of white supremacists revere her as something like a goddess, and the feeling is absolutely not mutual - in 2019, she unambiguously and firmly denounced white supremacy and alt-right stuff in general in a Rolling Stone interview.
Why do they revere her? Like I get that she is a very beautiful white woman, but there are lots of those. There has to be more than just “she’s hot and white so we’ve made her our goddess” right?
She used to be on the hick country stations that all the racist old people I know listen to, back when she was pop-country, so maybe they see her as one of their own? And a goddess because she’s objectively the biggest music star in the world atm?
Taylor Swift speaks out against that kind of shit in recent years and is about to tour with Paramore who are adamantly anti-white-supremacy and the like, so... Just your average internet idiot.
Report as trolling and/or misinformation and move on.
Woah, really? I’m hearing about this for the first time, upon googling it she says she disavows the alt right and finds white supremacy repulsive. Do you have a source?
He doesn't. White supremacists clinging to celebrities they desperately want to believe support their views only to be slapped down in disgust is a tale as old as time.
I seen to remember the documentary about her covering the decision to publicly voice her political beliefs for the first time. There's this one scene where she's in a room full of white men telling her not to do it because it would damage her brand and her mom being the only person in the room to support it.
She went against all her business advisors and did it anyway, which should tell you enough about where she stands.
Seismic activity caused by large groups of people moving together is a well known and documented phenomenon.
The focus of the article is that her quake was bigger than other previous man-made quakes during massive events in the same location and is presented as a proof/show of how popular Taylor Swift is and how passionate are their fans. (much wow).
If you think "Fans of X celebrity are very "energetic"" is a news article that should be posted here its fine, its news after all and people seem to like it, but lets not pretend this is a scientific article in any way.
See, this is the data that’s interesting, and i do think it belongs here. I’d be curious if this is unofficially a record. A certain seismic measurement that is a certain distance from an event, entirely generated by people. This is assuming their movement created a bigger reading than the sound equipment, which is entirely plausible with people stomping in time.
You know the lab is well aware of the venue. The artist doesn’t matter. It’s the event they were impressed with.
The Department of State warned in a statement of a high threat of violent crime and kidnapping throughout the city. It added that the US government’s capacity to provide emergency services to US citizens in Haiti is severely constrained.
I don’t think Haiti can be just blamed on the West. The stablest it’s been during its entire history was when it was a French colony with monstrous slavery practices and when it was under American occupation. For a decade or two, they got some decent leaders, but since then, it’s been several decades of robbers and despots, all pulled from the people of Haiti, none of whom were Western puppets.
Oh, sure, if the US and France had treated Haiti better, that would have helped. But the West didn’t cause the current problems of Haiti. They’re domestic.
No matter how much aid is pumped into Haiti, you can’t solve the problem of a country which has degenerated so far that it is essentially a nation of gangs and bandits.
I’ve asked Haitian emigres about it. They don’t have hope. What they’ve told me is that there isn’t any hope, that the country is doomed and hardly even a country any more.
I don’t know what the solution is, if there even is one.
This is beyond not true. If the colonizers hadn’t first killed off the native Taino, then forcibly kidnapped people from Africa, then made sure to destabilize their native culture groups, then made sure they could not access advanced education, then took those that found a way when people took their freedom from the colonizers, then made up an imaginary debt to cover the “cost” of the people they’d enslaved, then had the backing of the international community to force them to pay the imaginary debt all the way through 1947, then consistently interfered with and destabilized the political development of the country up to the modern day while also pushing for export-first agriculture and undermining local production with “aid” - then we could have a conversation about the foibles of Haitian leadership.
The Haitian people can and should challenge their leaders and strengthen their governance, but everyone else can either apologize and look for ways to be supportive or shut up.
You’re right that the country would almost certainly be better off if the French and Spanish hadn’t colonized it in the first place. That almost goes without saying.
The Haitian people can and should challenge their leaders and strengthen their governance, but everyone else can either apologize and look for ways to be supportive or shut up.
That’s the thing. Haiti doesn’t have political leaders or effective governance to challenge. And telling people who recognize that fact to shut up won’t change it.
Haiti has agency. Haitians have agency. They have been free of foreign control since the end of the US occupation, almost a century ago. They have been free of onerous forced foreign debt payments since 1947. Haiti is a country situated right by one of the largest import consumers in the world and has enjoyed favorable trade and investment terms and incentives with the US for decades.
But foreign investment doesn’t flow into the country. Why? Because it is a failed state with no effective leadership, corrupt beyond measure. The Duvaliers and the following dictators are the ones most responsible for making the country that way, and they weren’t Western puppets. They were domestic.
Nothing goes without saying these days, it is worth stating the case. And Haiti does have leaders, even if the political variety are not an option at the moment. It isn’t about recognition, it is about what you do with it - none of your commentary offers any thoughts or ideas that might improve things. You’re pointing at suffering and just going “it’s kind of their fault”.
Of course Haiti has agency, that is the point I made. They have **not ** been free of foreign control by any measure however, between direct interdiction by the US to heavy handed influence from the World Bank and others. The US kidnapped the sitting President in 1991 for goodness sakes! Your statement that it is a failed state is a facile observation - yes, but downplaying the role others have and laying it at the feet of the Haitian people is dishonest.
For the record I absolutely agree that “shut up” is generally a poor response to any criticism, but it is warranted in this case because you are restating the known from the outside without any engagement or solution-seeking. Just saying something sucks is not only not a helpful observation, it adds to the echo chamber of hopelessness that you yourself mentioned faces the people of Haiti. So if you aren’t going to give proper context, and you aren’t going to offer up support or ideas or insight or anything, then yes, silence is the best choice.
EDIT: Also I just can’t get over
You’re right that the country would almost certainly be better off if the French and Spanish hadn’t colonized it in the first place. That almost goes without saying. (emphasis mine)
The fact that you are leaving an opening for the possibility the the genocide of the Taino and the brutal kidnapping and oppression of the various African communities may be the better outcome for them after all is insane and seriously makes me question if you are even taking this seriously.
Dude, I can’t have absolute certainty over an alternate timeline. Maybe the Taino would have given birth to a genocidal dictator who would go on to eradicate the entire planet in a nuclear holocaust. Pretty unlikely, but who knows? All any honest person can say is that it seems very likely the country and island would have been better off without the crimes of Columbus etc.
And while Haiti has some people with the potential to become leaders, nobody has the effective ability to exert leadership over the country or a realistic pathway to gain that ability. Maybe that changes eventually. I don’t know.
This isn’t about an echo chamber of hopelessness. This is acceptance of reality. I have talked to emigres about the issues facing Haiti. You want to pretend there’s hope? Go ahead.
Also, I’m not sure why you are trying to pretend that the US “kidnapped” Aristede when what happened is that he fled to the US after the Haitian military ejected him from power in a coup. He was later restored to power by US intervention, in 1994, after the military ran the country halfway into the ground.
Carlee Russell, the Alabama woman who told police she was kidnapped after she went missing for two days, was arrested on Friday and charged with two misdemeanors for making false statements to police, Hoover Police Department Chief Nicholas Derzis announced during a press conference on Friday.
Scientists have been warning us about manmade GHG causing climate change far before An Inconvenient Truth. But yeah, I’ll admit that documentary certainly shone a spotlight on the issue–at least, in the US it did.
Scientists have been warning about manmade ghg cashing climate change since the fucking 19th century. Not the 1900s, the fucking 1800s. Right around the time the fucking civil war happened scientists figured this shit would be a problem, and they couldn’t even imagine a fucking fraction of the shit we’ve got spewing carbon into the atmosphere.
So great how it cools wages when people need wage increases most. It’s like every time we need to get ahead a little something goes nah… it’s lower class for you forever.
Because it makes people who are on the margins more desperate for work, which lowers wages or keeps them from rising as quickly as they otherwise would have.
They don’t, the Fed is sort of the hammer to break glass in case of emergencies, but the legislature has refused to do anything productive or helpful for citizens.
For years the fed just printed money to stave off an economic collapse. The legislative branch bought stock instead of passing laws and regulations.
The Fed isn’t our government, but unfortunately our government isn’t our government anymore either.
no one wants lower wages, but wage increases lead to businesses increasing their prices.
supply shocks aside, there is a negative correlation between inflation and unemployment for a host of complex reasons. so there’s ultimately a trade-off to pick.
unfortunately, the issue is that given businesses also function from the idea that there is such a trade-off, supposing we announce we want to lower unemployment, they raise their prices in anticipation.
its also stuck in a real binary type of thinking, assuming things like regulating businesses and redistributing the wealth are impossible. so like no shit when you write the rules around keeping money with the rich, the rich keep the money😲
Mine as well say hey do you wanna burn alive or drown? Sorry its the only trade off we can offer :/
People have given good responses here, but the other, important reason is because when people in the lower socioeconomic strata make more money, they’re willing to pay more for stuff instead of invest that money, meaning the prices for goods rises, which affects the lower classes most. If broad income rises, the price of goods rises. Are you making more “per hour” when everything costs more and you’re still spending the same percent of your income on food and housing? And if your income goes up, and so do prices, people that didn’t get that income raise get fucked hardest. That’s basically what “runaway inflation” IS: it’s when an economy starts increasing wages to satisfy cost, and cost goes to satisfy demand, so wages go up to satisfy cost and cost goes up to satisfy demand.
I put on my website, “black lives matter as much as anyone’s. Racism is white people’s responsibility.”
Got my ass shunned by most of my car forum “friends” where I’d been for 20 years. (I’m and out of the closet gay man, that may have had something to do with it. Lol).
Responsible – didn’t say guilty of. That’s on you.
This poor SOBs white neighbors need to stand up for him. “he’s my neighbor, what’s your problem?” type stuff. That’s how it’s our responsibility. It’s not up to black folks to deal with our (collective) racism.
I hear you. It’s definitely hard for a lot of white people to understand our responsibility for reconciliation after so many years of brutality. But that doesn’t mean the responsibility doesn’t exist.
Germany is still working through its responsibilities for WWII and the holocaust even though few current Germans lived through that.
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