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FloatingAlong , in Thai cave survivor reunites with rescuer at high school graduation 5 years later

Is this the guy Elon Musk accused of being a pedophile after he pointed out that Elon’s idea was stupid?

DangerousDetlef ,

No, it’s the same incident but it was another guy called Vernon Unsworth, I think he was the head of the operation whereas the one in the article was “just” one of the guys on the team providing medical aid.

I’m also glad that the article does not mention Musk and his whole stupid PR stunt at all but instead focuses on the people actually involved.

Wander , in Thai cave survivor reunites with rescuer at high school graduation 5 years later
@Wander@yiffit.net avatar

Wait, it’s been five years already!?

hetscop ,

Five years ago does not sound right to me at all, but I looked it up and apparently it was in 2018, so I guess it has been five years after all. Total mandela effect moment for me.

freehugs ,

Long enough that the biopic about this event is already a year old.

stopthatgirl7 , in French authorities ban protest against police violence in Paris
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

Maybe the cops should try not being violent.

rockSlayer ,

Woah now, let’s not get too crazy with our solutions /s

postmateDumbass ,

But the only tool they have is a hammer.

orphiebaby ,
@orphiebaby@lemmy.world avatar

*gun

Oh wait, that’s the U.S.

themoonisacheese ,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

Well I mean over here too. The protests are about extrajudicial killings of minorities.

rockSlayer ,

Wait, if cops in the US, France, and Germany are bastards, does that mean All Cops Are Bastards?

themoonisacheese ,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

Let’s not jump conclusions. I’m sure not all cops are bastard, for example dead ones.

Kinglink , in French authorities ban protest against police violence in Paris

If there’s one thing that has proven to stop protests, it’s laws.

andrewta , in French authorities ban protest against police violence in Paris

People protesting: no problem

People protesting and then certain groups “joining” them and burning cars and breaking windows requires a police presence.

Stop burning shit.

And yeah it won’t stop the protest from happening just because the French authorities banned the protest. Probably a few people will get arrested though.

TheGreatFox ,
@TheGreatFox@lemmy.world avatar

Ever hear the term “Agent provocateur”?

andrewta ,

Yes I have and that was basically the point of my comment.

It isn’t the protestors burning shit it’s other bad actors. But whether it’s the protestors burning stuff or the other bad actors is really irrelevant. Either way stuff is getting damaged so there needs to be a police presence.

DessertStorms ,
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

Either way stuff is getting damaged so there needs to be a police presence.

why, what are they going to do, arrest the fire? Shoot at it?

andrewta ,

How about arrest the arsonist?

DessertStorms ,
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

I refer you to @TheGreatFox 's reply.

TheGreatFox ,
@TheGreatFox@lemmy.world avatar

Why would they arrest their own undercover agents?

schroedingershat ,

The police presence is to arrest (violently) anyone who tries to stop the agents provocateur.

If you miss the chance you have to set more small businesses on fire.

orcrist ,

Blame the victim.

It’s such a common maneuver when you want to undermine a person or a movement’s legitimacy that we even gave it a name.

In the United States MLK talked about this in so many words. He described perfectly how many people will say that they agree with your goals but not with your methods. And if you were to ask what their methods are, it would involve waiting. The problem with that is that waiting doesn’t fix anything.

andrewta ,

Where was I blaming the victim?

I openly said it isn’t the protestors burning shit.

The other victim would be the owners of the cars and businesses… how am I blaming them?

orcrist ,

Oh, that’s an easy one. You framed the problem wrong. When you decided to talk about the problem in terms of the protests, you decided that the actual problem was not important. So that was basically irresponsible.

And the outcome of your framing decision is anti-democratic. If the only thing we look at is the protest, then it’s easy for people to say and believe that a fringe element of looters or rioters is unavoidable, and therefore either the police should have more power to deal with protesters or protests themselves ought to be canceled.

It’s certainly possible to discuss protests and avoid the above pitfalls, but it definitely requires careful consideration.

andrewta ,

I’m hoping there is a hidden /s in there.

It is entirely possible to talk about who is burning shit and care about the protests and care about the protestors and care about the businesses that are being destroyed. Just because I didn’t mention every single one of those things in a comment doesn’t mean I don’t care about them.

Tangent5280 ,

Please do try to mention them anyway, because not doing so comes across as callousness, regardless of how you actually feel about it.

Your argument is a valid viewpoint - you want positive change for the people protesting, but you want it without any of the wanton violence or burning that goes along with rioting; correct?

However, it is also true that you were: (1) placing the onus of non-violence on the people who were wronged, and protesting here. (2) assuming there was some way for the people protesting, to seperate themselves from the bad actors who engage in these riots with the sole purpose of destroying and looting shit. (3) assuming that there are other easily available methods were the masses could change the system they’re in without any of the rioting. (4) assuming that the powers that be (legislative bodies/lawmakers/policy builders) willingly engage in these methods in good faith, for which history already has plenty of counter-examples.

frozenicecube , in Florida ocean temperatures peak to almost 100 degrees amid heatwave: "You really can't cool off"
@frozenicecube@lemmy.ca avatar

I wonder what impact this will have on hurricane season of those water temps continue…

Buffalox ,

Higher temperature is equal to more energy in the atmosphere, the result is worse hurricanes.

june ,

We should start dumping ice in the ocean. That’ll help.

happilybitchycowboy ,
@happilybitchycowboy@lemmy.world avatar

No wonder all the ice at the poles is melting

lamprivate ,

ONCE AND FOR ALL

stopthatgirl7 ,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

…oh. Oh, that’s gonna make hurricane season bad.

QuinceDaPence ,

To really get the answer there you need surface temperature and temperature 100ft deep.

The surface can be hot but if it's cool deeper then then the storm churns it up and the cold water calms it down.

Mookulator , in Florida ocean temperatures peak to almost 100 degrees amid heatwave: "You really can't cool off"

Anyone have historical data at that location? Just how crazy is this?

TWG ,

seatemperature.info/florida-water-temperature.htm…

So average temp in July is around 85° for the most popular destinations at least. Definitely seems like a hefty increase from the average.

Mookulator ,

Oof

iggames ,

Looks like NOAA has historical data here: www.ndbc.noaa.gov/historical_data.shtml. The buoy from the screenshot in the article only has a few years worth, here’s 2019: www.ndbc.noaa.gov/download_data.php?filename=jkyf…

bdonvr , in Florida ocean temperatures peak to almost 100 degrees amid heatwave: "You really can't cool off"

“World’s largest hot tub!”

elouboub ,
@elouboub@kbin.social avatar

Entering the Guinness Book of Records!

brad , in French authorities ban protest against police violence in Paris

Well the protestors will have to stop now that they aren’t allowed to protest

itsdavetho , in French authorities ban protest against police violence in Paris

Surely this will stop them this time for really real

Carvex , in Florida ocean temperatures peak to almost 100 degrees amid heatwave: "You really can't cool off"

Oh no, if it isn’t the consequences to our own actions!

Mog_fanatic ,

No no no that’s where you’re wrong. This is simply God’s will. Carry on.

MicroWave OP , in Florida ocean temperatures peak to almost 100 degrees amid heatwave: "You really can't cool off"
@MicroWave@lemmy.world avatar

That’s about 38 degrees celsius for non-Americans.

Buffalox ,

I think it’s 38 degrees celsius for Americans too. But I’m not quite sure, could also be 2 ounces, their system is kind of weird.

june ,

It’s just over half the temperature of a cooked chicken for us normal Americans.

irkli ,
@irkli@lemmy.world avatar

You forgot the fortnight compensation on Tuesdays.

joel_feila ,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

the weirdest part is size 8 men shoe and size 8 women shoe are not the same size

dismalnow ,
@dismalnow@kbin.social avatar

7.1 stone.

MysteriousSophon21 ,

Or about 72.7 bananas

DangerousDetlef ,

Really had to do a double take. Like, what the fuck, the ocean is boiling, it can’t be that be that bad, right? Then it clicked that you’re using that weird Fahrenheit system.

Yes, sorry, it’s weird. Celsius is easy - water freezes at 0 and boils at 100 and there we go…

WrongWay ,

F is easy.. 0 is cold. 100 is HOT..

Norgur ,

Thinking about it... Isn't that exactly what the Celsius scale does just with reliable definitions about what "cold" and "HOT" mean?

Shower water with 38°C is hot, a bowl of rice at 38°C/100F is decidedly not "HOT". So the perceived convenience of the Fahrenheit scale is not applicable to everything, is it? How is it convenient then?

CherenkovBlue ,
@CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

O F is the freezing temperature of a saturated brine solution, while 100 F was the body temperature of a human. Yes, body temperature has been revised a bit, but the two points were chosen as stable points that anyone could access that would generally be unchanged by pressure changes, etc. Human homeostasis is quite good at keeping a temperature in a narrow range. Also, boiling is massively affected by air pressure. At 5000’ elevation, boiling is approximately 202 F and continues to get lower as altitude increases. Lots of people live at higher altitudes. (Hi! I am one of them !)

Edit: I was a little off on the temperature selected for body temp, but still pretty close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit

inspired ,

This is really interesting and I think there is a lot of support for the body temperature point. I was curious about whether the method of deriving 0F is insensitive to pressure changes and I can't find any evidence of that. But I don't know enough about chemistry or physics myself. Do you know, or have any details on where you learned this?

CherenkovBlue , (edited )
@CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

So I was a little off on the temperature chosen for the body, but the Wikipedia page has some good details: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit

Re: freezing temperature of brine and pressure sensitivity, of course it is sensitive but we are talking about MPa-GPa of pressure, way beyond small pressure changes due to changes in altitude. You can get started by looking at physical chemistry of solutions if you are interested! A good place to start is “freezing point depression” and “boiling point elevation” of solutions. Also, single component phase diagrams: here it is for https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Phase_diagram_of_water_simplified.svg.

yata ,

It is convenient because they are used to it. That is all there is to it, and peace be to that.

It only becomes silly when they begin to claim that F is better for “human temperature”, because again it all comes down to what you are used to and celsius is just as convenient if you are used to that.

sudo ,
@sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml avatar

As an American this is how I interpret Celsius

  • 100 is boiling
  • 50 is you’re gonna die from heat exhaustion eventually
  • 40 is hot
  • 30 is a little warm
  • 20 is a little cool
  • 10 is cold
  • 0 is freezing
Rhaedas ,
@Rhaedas@kbin.social avatar

30 is hot.
20 is nice.
10 is cool.
0 is ice.

40 and 50 can just not, please.

AmosBurton_ThatGuy ,
@AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca avatar

As a Canadian, 50 is kill me right now cause fuck that, 40 would be constant cold showers to stay cool, 30 is uncomfortable and needs occasional cold showers, 20 is perfect summer weather, 10 is perfect spring weather and 0 is a nice winter day.

Can’t stand the heat, I’ll take -30C over +30C any day. Can always put on more layers if you’re cold, there’s only so much you can take off when you’re hot though.

Buffalox ,

Metric:

10 mm = 1cm, 100 cm = 1m, 1000 mm = 1m, 1000m = 1 km.

1 cm3 water = 1 gram

1 Watt heats 1 gram of water 1 C°

1 dm3 water = liter = 1 kg

1 m3 = 1000 kg = 1 tonne

Imperial:

1 mile = ?? yards = ?? feet = ?? inches

1 ton = ?? stone = ??punds = ?? oz = ?? grain

1 Galon = ?? pints = ?? fluid ounce

1 inch3 = ?? grain = ?? power to heat ?? fahrenheit

There is no system to any of these, they are unscientific and impractical.

How does Imperial still have any relevance as a measurement system?

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

That’s exactly how I’ve memorised imperial as well. We must have used the same manual.

Buffalox ,

Yes, you could say Imperial is easier, because you’d never calculate anything in your head, you ask Google.

But how did that even work before we had Internet?

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

I suppose they had little booklets. A bit like the logarithmic tables that people kept for complicated calculations. Maybe they were issued on the first day of school or something. People would keep them all their life and look at them surreptitiously whenever they had to convert units.

Buffalox ,

1 barrel is 734 ounces. Whoo what a handy table. LOL ;)

LegionEris ,

I lived someplace with an old sticker inside a cabinet door with a bunch of basic, useful conversions. It was neat.

joel_feila ,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

60 miles = 318 Kilofeet

CodeInvasion ,

I regularly convert between the two just by remembering the conversions for 10, 20, 30, and 40. It’s actually pretty easy.

  • 0C is 32F (of course)
  • 10C is 50F
  • 20C is 68F (a cool room temp)
  • 30C is 86F (reciprocal of 20)
  • 40C is 104F

If you ever forget what one of them is, then just add 18F for every 10C from the last one you remember.

theterrasque ,

As a Norwegian:

  • 100 is boiling
  • 40 is we all gonna die
  • 30 is hot
  • 20 is a little warm
  • 10 is a little cool
  • 0 is cold
  • -5 is maybe time for a jacket
  • -10 shit, it’s freezingly cold outside!
  • -15 I’ll stay indoors if I can
DaedalistKraken ,

This is actually great, I’ve never found a good way to remember Celsius temperatures. I might go closer to Terrasque’s scale though, 30 is definitely hot where I am.

Nepenthe ,
@Nepenthe@kbin.social avatar

With how mountainous Europe is, no it doesn't. What bothers me (aside from the ongoing, increasingly vivid global extinction event) is the sense that, were the situation flipped, you guys wouldn't miss a beat telling people to look it up instead of assuming every country works like theirs does.

Good news is, we'll both have something else to complain about in a year or two, if we're...still able to do that.

Norgur ,

Oh, I think you might be projecting there. Have you ever been to Germany or France or any other European country? If the situation was flipped and we Europeans were the only ones using a system no one else does, we wouldn't tell you to look it up, we would never stop complaining about our governments for not changing shit.

Norgur ,

Oh, I think you might be projecting there. Have you ever been to Germany or France or any other European country? If the situation was flipped and we Europeans were the only ones using a system no one else does, we wouldn't tell you to look it up, we would never stop complaining about our governments for not changing shit.

Nepenthe , (edited )
@Nepenthe@kbin.social avatar

Well, I'm..american, so I'm generally too broke to leave my house. I will openly admit I'm increasingly jealous of the French tendency to fuck shit up at the slightest inconvenience. They seem to know a lot more about getting things done.

I think one would also have to account for geography in that, no? If a country were landlocked and surrounded by a ton of others that all used the same separate system that they themselves do not, then there would be very significant reason and pressure to change. As much as it's derided for it, America IS very much a universe unto itself, and the only dealings it has with nations that do things differently are in areas of work that have switched over to more standard measurements.

All science and engineering are primarily or totally done in metric after we crashed the Mars Orbiter headlong into the dirt at mach speed. Everything else tends to use the more mathmatically sensible kelvin. Mexico uses metric and celsius, but I've literally never had a reason to go to mexico and probably never will. Canada uses both, but same deal.

I make a concerted effort to include both systems whenever I have to type for an audience of mixed/ambiguous nationality, but in my day-to-day, I will never meet another person who can easily switch between them and I have no use to do that either. It is a useless skill for me to have. Despite this, I have the sense that I see more europeans complaining about farenheit than I ever see Americans complain about celsius existing, and for such a damn stupid populace, I'm left to assume we either comment less or google it more.

Regarding projecting, I could be tongue-in-cheek and ask if you've ever met a European before. Our food. Our language. Our buildings, cities, cars, media, sports, slang, holidays, garbage disposals, windows, classrooms, whether or not we take our shoes off in the house. I struggle to think of a single subject you guys will not routinely make an inordinate amount of fuss over, as if it killed your children, and I'm convinced at this point that it's for love of spite and there's literally nothing we could do to make Europe happy if we wanted to. It makes sense that any chance to acknowledge the alternate measuring system would be prime ribs.

Brits especially will snark about american english that routinely turns out to be a defunct british word. Germans will complain about the drywall, but their own houses have the same drywall. Houses in Switzerland are made of wood, but nobody bitches at the Swiss.

Parting note, the downvote feels in keeping with that kind of pettiness.

MicroWave OP , in An otter in California that keeps bullying people off of their surfboards has been too quick for wildlife officials to catch
@MicroWave@lemmy.world avatar

This is otterly the cutest menace in a while. How could you not love that face?

MicroWave OP , in Pickleball Is America's Fastest-Growing Sport – But Is It Also The Most Dangerous? Report Shows It Could Cost US $500 Million In Medical Expenses
@MicroWave@lemmy.world avatar

The escalating frequency of pickleball injuries has brought concerns about the safety of the popular sport to the forefront. A recent study revealed that approximately 90% of reported cases affected people 50 and older, with sprains and fractures making up nearly half of the injuries.

itsdavetho ,

Breaking news: old people are fragile and taxing to the healthcare system

GenericUsername28 ,

It’s hard for me to believe the benefits of the increase in exercise are outweighed by the risks of injury. I’d be quite surprised if pickleball didn’t reduce the total cost of medical care.

FormlessMartian ,
@FormlessMartian@lemmy.world avatar

Matthew Lazinski from the University of South Florida School of Physical Therapy & Rehab Sciences, reflecting on the rise in pickleball injuries witnessed in the clinic, emphasizes the potential risks associated with the sport. He asserts that the surge in injuries can be attributed to people embracing an active lifestyle. He said the advantages gained from exercise outweigh the associated costs.

It’s right there in the article.

ArbiterXero ,

…. Making the title misleading and somewhat bullshite

MicroWave OP , in Never Mind the Delivery, More Online Consumers Are Turning to Store Pickup
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For retailers including Walmart, Target, Macy’s and others, it is an extension of their attempts to use their physical stores as kinds of virtual fulfillment centers, a strategy that has grown out of the surge in online shopping during the Covid-19 pandemic and the strain it exerted on companies’ distribution operations.

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