This is something I’m wanting to bring up in our next union negotiations. Anyone working in the heat needs this ironed out before the next few years, as summers just keep getting worse. It’s ridiculous there aren’t laws for this yet.
yep, they don’t mention, because now it isn’t an excuse or she die, or she going arrested, and the news don’t provide enough information anyway, just look at the news about mothers goibg sick because can’t get health care
Yeah, I’ve been wondering if that’s a possible reason she did it: one day the fetus stopped moving and she panicked. Knowing that women have died/almost died because doctors were scared to remove the dead fetus.
Burning books always reminds of the big book burnings the nazis organized in germany. Burning books seems wrong to me in general and burning a specific book just to provoke violent outrage of a certain group seems especially vile to me.
What you are doing is the equivalent of pointing fingers and whimpering. This is not a schoolyard, so please refrain from arguing on that level. The people who stormed the embassy were obviously a violent mob of religious fanatics - I assumed that to be trivial and not necessary to mention because it should be obvious.
What I was doing with that question was trying to ascertain whether you were just making excuses for religious extremists or trying to add more to the conversation. Maybe ask clarifying questions before assuming I’m “schoolyard arguing.”
I am happy to see that you agree that storming an embassy is bad. Seriously because it is NOT obvious by what I replied to.
I read a few of your replies and I think I understand your point of view better. I think just in general we should NOT act in a manner that would be considered offensive to another group just to be (for lack of a better work) a dick. The sad thing is, we already don’t live in that world and this refugee that burned the Quran might have been burning it as a “dick move” or maybe he was burning it because he has a very real and hurtful story of how he became a refugee from Iraq. People burn things (small idols, books, or letters) as ceremonies of release depending on where they are coming from or their culture.
I can tell you I am biased toward any religion trying to tell me how to act. If I want to burn every holy book that I buy/own then I should be able to. Pushing your beliefs on others is wrong. Me burning a book doesn’t effect you unless you decide that it does. You forcing your religious laws on me does actually effect me even if I don’t believe in your religion. What happens if I’m eating an unclean food infront of some extremist religious person? Do you think I’m trying to be offensive because I’m eating pork in public?
I’m not trying to schoolyard argue with you, but I think giving up some acts of freedom of speech to religious extremists is a bad path to follow. Appeasement doesn’t work with extremists because they always push for more.
I don’t think most Muslim are extremists. I do think many of these countries have parts of, if not all of their country run by extremists. That’s why I think it’s worth noting. We shouldn’t push people to violent acts, but one could argue that the refugee himself was pushed to this “violent act” by the extremists in his home country.
I am happy to see that you agree that storming an embassy is bad. Seriously because it is NOT obvious by what I replied to.
its not obvious whether they agree that storming an embassy is bad because they didnt say anything about the matter
I think just in general we should NOT act in a manner that would be considered offensive to another group just to be (for lack of a better work) a dick. The sad thing is, we already don’t live in that world and this refugee that burned the Quran might have been burning it as a “dick move” or maybe he was burning it because he has a very real and hurtful story of how he became a refugee from Iraq.
this does not sound like you think we should NOT act in a manner that would be considered offensive to another group just to be a dick
it sounds like making excuses, especially for someone complaining about folks making excuses
I can tell you I am biased toward any religion trying to tell me how to act. If I want to burn every holy book that I buy/own then I should be able to. Pushing your beliefs on others is wrong. Me burning a book doesn’t effect you unless you decide that it does. You forcing your religious laws on me does actually effect me even if I don’t believe in your religion
someone commenting that burning books to provoke violent outrage is vile falls under none of the above
What happens if I’m eating an unclean food infront of some extremist religious person? Do you think I’m trying to be offensive because I’m eating pork in public?
we arent talking about eating unclean food in front of some extremist person, equating the two is disingenuous
I’m not trying to schoolyard argue with you,
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I think giving up some acts of freedom of speech to religious extremists is a bad path to follow
someone commenting that burning books to provoke violent outrage is vile falls under none of the above
We shouldn’t push people to violent acts, but one could argue that the refugee himself was pushed to this “violent act” by the extremists in his home country
the man in sweden was not pushed to burn a book because of the political climate in another country a continent away
I think there is a lot of misunderstanding in this. I will not try to explain everything, because I feel I’m not using the correct words to explain my thoughts.
I will reply to
we arent talking about eating unclean food in front of some extremist person, equating the two is disingenuous>
I was mentioning this example in order to try to explain how appeasement doesn’t work with extremists. If burning a book is so offensive that they have a call to arms then I am against them. I don’t care what book. It’s all paper.
the man in sweden was not pushed to burn a book because of the political climate in another country a continent away>
Oh cool. I just assumed that the political climate of his country of origin had something to do with why he was a refugee, but I guess not?
I’m not familiar with all the details of why he was granted refugee status. I just agreed with him on principle. I’m not an edgelord, and I respect everyone’s religion in practice. Which is why I am attempting to advocate for his personal creed. Religion is personal and I respect it until someone tries to push their religious laws on someone else.
These babies were going to die anyway. Either with a medically safe abortion or through a complicated and risky pregnancy that also risks the mother's life.
There is plenty of evidence saying that working outdoors at specific temperatures and humidity is extremely harmful and dangerous, but no legal obligation for employers to provide more rest/water breaks and shade the hotter it gets.
We have a construction crew next door everyday building a new warehouse and I’m happy to see that they call it quits on days the temp spikes up past 100. There is zero shade around here mid day, and they’re basically working out in the middle of a huge concrete slab currently. Most of the time they start early and end early with the exception of a few guys hanging around to unload flatbed with incoming materials. Very rare, but it seems a few firms out there do care about their employees well being.
pleaded guilty to illegally concealing human remains after she had an abortion when around 28 weeks pregnant
Regardless of the circumstances that may have led to this decision, this isn’t a case worthy of outrage. There were 28-week preemies in the NICU when my daughter was there. While there’s still growing to do at 28 weeks, this is a whole-ass baby, not just a bundle of cells.
So when a fetus arbitrarily grows large enough to be a “whole-ass baby”, it magically grows the right to use someone’s body without their consent? They just have to lay there and take it, because it’s been there for so long already? Only in republican USA.
She was 28 weeks (6.5 months) pregnant. The survival rate for babies born at at 28 weeks is 80%. ( source: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1117667/ ). This wasn’t a fetus, this was a fully formed baby.
I fully support right to choose, but this wasn’t abortion…it was murder followed by coverup. Everyone getting riled up over the social justice of this has plenty of things to be riled up over these days, but this isn’t one of those things.
At what point do you think it’s unethical? Or do you have no line that can’t be crossed. At 28 weeks, it’s a fully formed baby that can survive outside the womb with an 80% survival rate…that’s way past any reasonable and ethical line.
How exactly is a 28 week old baby “fully formed” when pregnancies are usually 40 weeks long? Do they just chill for 12 whole weeks doing nothing? Or are you ready to admit you’re just talking out of your ass? Try applying reason to your own arguments before wasting my time with whatever poorly thought out nonsense you’re coming in here to spout.
It’s unethical to tell woman what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. Trying to argue “well before x weeks it’s fine, after that it’s unethical” is misleading nonsense. If it’s not your body, it’s none of your fucking business. End of discussion.
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