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PM_Your_Nudes_Please , (edited ) in "Quick" security check... I had to do 15 of these...

Yeah, captchas have gotten worse recently. I had one asking me to choose “the largest animal” and it had an example picture of what was meant to be a lion. There was a rhino in one of the other pics.

It wanted me to click on lions, but then gave me something larger than a lion.

Edit: I just got this… Clicking on the flowers fails. Clicking on Skip fails. It wouldn’t let me try a third time to try clicking the cows, giraffe, or moose. But it clearly believes at least one of the three is smaller than a cat.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5af9af38-b568-489e-925d-a15471514551.jpeg

Ziglin ,

And the frog is scaled to look bigger so you don’t know what they mean either.

sunzu2 , in Whoever wrote this headline has never encountered a passenger train before in their lives

I am amazed at how people ate still surpised...

Tesla paid about 15k for this article and money like that gets you a cute headline.

This is "journalism" 101, this is part of their business model.

ArchRecord , in Whoever wrote this headline has never encountered a passenger train before in their lives

The train also only runs between Erkner Station, and Tesla Sud, which is literally just the station right at the Tesla manufacturing facility in the area.

“It’s also free to not just Tesla employees, but regular passengers as well.”

That’s great and all, but are everyday people taking trains to go see the outside of a Tesla factory, then leaving again?

i_stole_ur_taco ,

lol. They’re promoting their employee shuttle. Classic Felon.

Delphia ,

Well I mean, it IS a step up from my current jobs policy which is “Yes you need a car to get here, no we arent providing one and if you don’t have one you don’t have a job”

Letstakealook , in Whoever wrote this headline has never encountered a passenger train before in their lives

What exactly are you taking issue with here? The train runs on batteries, and it’s the first one in the world deployed, though the manufacturer, I’m sure, is hoping to sell to more operators than Tesla Germany.

Fermion ,

The headline says worlds first all-electric train rather than worlds first all-battery-powered train. There have been many all-electric trains before. So the headline as written is incorrect.

Letstakealook ,

That’s a good point, fair enough.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Electric trains actually predate diesel, noted as far back as the 30s. Subways kind of needed something that didn’t emit smoke and fumes

oo1 ,

Volk’s electric railway, 1883. Only a narrow gague tourist type thing but still technically a passenger railway.

ricecake ,

Because the headline literally says “world’s first all electric train”, which it very much is not.

SlopppyEngineer ,

Nor is it the first battery powered train in the world or even first in Germany where this giga-train operates.

Thorry84 ,

Besides the first all electric train bit, which is nonsense, it also touts the capacity of the train. It has 120 seats, which may be mind blowing to car heads, but for a train is rather on the low side. Regular passenger trains often have over 200 seats and many have more seats for the same length. For busy pieces of track 600 seats per train aren’t unusual.

It really is like the author has never heard of trains before and has his mind blown by the concept.

Personally I think putting in batteries is kinda dumb, trains need so much infrastructure already and it’s fixed in location. Adding a power delivery system (like overhead power lines like most electric trains have) is really easy. That way a lot of weight is saved, thus making the whole thing more efficient. You also don’t need any special materials to make it, compared with huge batteries. And the wear components are a lot less expensive to replace.

Letstakealook ,

The article states 500 passengers…

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

So I’d say still hardly “MiNDbLoWINg”

Letstakealook ,

That is probably in reference to the tech used, it is exceptional for a battery powered train. This just seems like negativity directed at tesla/musk (they do such for myriad reasons), even though they aren’t the manufacturer, just the operator.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Nope. UK already has battery powered trains in operation. Trust me, I’m a full blown train nerd. The only remotely interesting things is that it happened in the US, and even then the better option was electrification.

Letstakealook ,

This is in Germany.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

So then it’s even less interesting.

Rivalarrival ,

There’s room for batteries in the rail industry.

Diesel electrics rely primarily on dynamic braking. To save wear and tear on friction brakes, they convert kinetic energy to electrical, and then to heat in a giant resistor bank.

Add a couple battery cars, and dynamic braking becomes regenerative braking.

Theoretically, you could back feed the grid with that electrical energy, but if you do that, the train’s primary braking system is now dependent on a connection to the grid, and that doesn’t seem like a particularly good idea to me. All of the “stop” systems need to be far more reliable than the “go” systems.

Ilovethebomb ,

Trains are quite good at carrying weight though, why do you think so much bulk material goes by rail?

drdabbles , in Whoever wrote this headline has never encountered a passenger train before in their lives
@drdabbles@lemmy.world avatar

It’s also just an outright lie. But, I guess that doesn’t matter anymore.

Greg ,
@Greg@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah, it’s not all electric, some of the train is just regular matter

NaibofTabr ,

Wait until you learn how molecular bonds work…

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

this is the internet I don’t learn

az04 ,

You could learn this internet if you decided to.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar
Karyoplasma ,

The founding principle behind chatGPT.

endlessvoid ,

Sure that part’s electric, but what about the bonds keeping the quarks of the train together?

roguetrick ,

Don’t respond to this @NaibofTabr, he’s trying to get your grand unified theory before you publish.

jaybone ,

So it does matter?

lurch ,

It’s yahoo news. It’s pure clickbait. Idk why they do this they have some decent other services.

TheTechnician27 ,
@TheTechnician27@lemmy.world avatar

Yahoo! News is an aggregator like MSN (and has very few original articles), and thus the quality varies widely based on the source. Here it’s some outlet called TCD.

brbposting ,

Just checked something and it makes me wonder if they struck different deals than MSN:

View, say, a Business Insider article on MSN, and use the share button, and it will share the article hosted on Business Insider. Do the same on Yahoo and it shares the same Yahoo News URL that you were reading it on.

Thrashy OP ,
@Thrashy@lemmy.world avatar

I did a little digging and it seems like there’s a tiny kernel of fact at the core of this giant turd of a hype-piece, and that is the fact that they electrified this little spur line from Berlin to the new German Tesla factory by using a battery-electric trainset. Which is not a terrible solution for electrifying a very short branch line that presumably doesn’t need frequent all-day service, even if it’s a bit of a janky approach compared to overhead lines. But hand that off to the overworked, underpaid twenty-two-year old gig worker they’ve got doing “editing” at Yahoo for two bucks an article, and I guess it turns into “world-first electric wonder train amazes!”

For a second, though, I read the headline and wondered if Musk and co. had finally looped all the way around to reinventing commuter rail from first principles after all these years of trying to “disrupt” it with bullshit ideas like Hyperloop and Tunnels, But Dumber.

fuzzy_feeling ,

it’s the Mireo Plus B from siemens. it’s already in use in the north of germany since march of this year.
nordbahn.de/…/der-norden-begruesst-die-akku-zuege…

there’s nothing elon about this train, just that it’s driving to his factory.

they are great for short distances that are difficult to electrify.

drdabbles ,
@drdabbles@lemmy.world avatar

I guess if by a kernel of truth you mean an existing train was used on an existing track, then you could almost make it make sense? But since all of this existed before, it’s just a lie.

I’ll also point out that anybody introducing battery electric trains instead of just electrifying the remaining parts of rail is making an astoundingly bad choice, but that’s almost certainly Germany and not Tesla.

superkret ,

I could see why they would do it specifically in this case.

There’s been huge protests against building the Gigafactory in Brandenburg, and the main instrument of the opponents was using Germany’s strict environmental protection laws against it.
If they needed to cut down more trees along the tracks to electrify the line, the opponents could possibly delay that by suing in court, demanding studies be done, maybe finding an endangered ant species somewhere in the area.

Running the train on batteries avoids that.

drdabbles ,
@drdabbles@lemmy.world avatar

They could have just illegally cut down the trees like they illegally used too much water, or any of the other things they did against their agreement with the government.

Ilovethebomb ,

I don’t think you realise how expensive electrifying a line can be, it can be as expensive as building it in the first place. Whereas this technology can be used without modifying the track at all.

If the line only runs a few times a day, it’s an obvious choice.

drdabbles ,
@drdabbles@lemmy.world avatar

I do realize. I also realize things like weight of the train, cost of the battery packs, the fact those packs will wear and need to be replaced faster than anything else in the system, and much more.

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

I laos looked into this and it seems you are right. This article which is such a mess.

kureta ,

Laos mentioned! 🇱🇦

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah but it’s also far from new technology. Germany is mostly electrified rail, and having BE sets to bridge areas is not uncommon (in southern Germany you also get diesel electric combo units).

Quik ,

Honestly, I’d be more than happy if they just invented regular trains (even if their version would probably worse in ways not even imaginable as of now), because that would mean more money in train infrastructure.

So… yeah, you did it! You built something really cool and completely new! And don’t look over there, that’s just… copycats?

Chozo ,

It's not a lie! It's technically the first thing anybody was stupid enough to name "giga train"!

drdabbles ,
@drdabbles@lemmy.world avatar

You and I both know someone somewhere was that stupid before Musk. He isn’t even original in what an idiot he is. 😆

stoly , in My refurbished ThinkPad (L390 Yoga) came with wrong rubber feet (too thick) not allowing it to turn into tablet mode.

My guess: the person who returned it put those on.

Leate_Wonceslace , in "Quick" security check... I had to do 15 of these...
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My guess is the first one.

CanadaPlus ,

Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s it - it is the same little swirly thing, just coloured differently and mirrored. I’ve seen worse.

InFerNo , in "Quick" security check... I had to do 15 of these...

Rockstar uses these, but 30 of them, and each one asks for undivided attention. Count all visible sides of the dice, showing 6 different pictures of dice and then you have to choose 1 that matches the shown number. 30 times. Fuck that. I haven’t been able to play GTA5 since.

Rev3rze ,

I literally ragequit that captcha. Mine was showing floor plans and grainy “pictures” of a room asking me to pick which floor plan matched the picture from that perspective. I swear to you, none of them actually matched, progress reset constantly because I’d invariably pick the wrong one. It provoked such a primal rage in me, it felt like I was being gaslit into believing I was wrong when actually that captcha was cursed to hell and back. Thankfully my very patient partner managed to get through them for me and I only had to do it once to get the launcher to recognise my new pc.

lemmywinksthegerbilking , in Yelp is making me get their app to confirm my restaurant reservation

You’re not yelping (South Park ref)

affiliate , in Yelp is making me get their app to confirm my restaurant reservation

please bro just download one more app. please, your phone has so much space. we need more data come on bro please

Evil_Shrubbery , in "Quick" security check... I had to do 15 of these...

You were solving some devs IQ test they couldn’t themselves.

LouNeko , in "Quick" security check... I had to do 15 of these...

Imagine Optimus Prime trying to buy Sam Witwickys Glasses on EBay and encountering this captcha.

“Jo, this is fucking bullshit you guys.”

Jakeroxs ,

Only the power of the all spark could solve this captcha.

Freefall , in "Quick" security check... I had to do 15 of these...

Just ask chatGPT, it can solve capchas faster than a person. Set up a script and boom, no more capchas issues.

fluxion , in "Quick" security check... I had to do 15 of these...

If you attempt to answer this rather than refresh for an easier one, the captcha assumes you are a computer and blocks your IP

Showroom7561 OP ,

rather than refresh for an easier one

That was one of the easy ones! They got more abstract and further from identical as you went on.

And the bastards set it up so they make you think you’re solving 5 of these… then when you do the fifth one, they make you do 10… etc… infuriating.

Resol , in "Quick" security check... I had to do 15 of these...
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

The answer is none, assuming color also plays a role.

Whoever made this CAPCHA probably didn’t consider that.

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