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superfes ,

Sorry bro, I don’t really like Mac & Cheese either.

TheSlad ,

Reported.

kersploosh ,
@kersploosh@sh.itjust.works avatar

I saw the report and came as fast as I could!

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HowManyNimons ,

Thanks for coming, kersploosh.

Nurse_Robot ,

You’re really tempting the mods on this one. Not that I don’t agree with you.

blanketswithsmallpox ,

Reported.

InEnduringGrowStrong ,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

This has been reported to your ISP for abuse, expect a vaguely worded letter in the mail that’s meant to scare you into reaching out and settling.
— Oh wait, that’s only for pirates

play You-wouldnt-download-a-mac-n-cheese.mkv

MrScottyTay ,

I understand

RmDebArc_5 ,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

[Comment removed for anti macaroni and cheese propaganda]

ulterno ,
@ulterno@lemmy.kde.social avatar

Deleted by Macaroni Instigator and Cheese Propagator

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

Are we talking kraft or made from scratch?

Ejh3k ,

Doesn’t matter. Mac and cheese ain’t anything special.

variants ,

Anything with that much cheese isn’t going to be good

Sotuanduso ,

What is with you people?

hoch ,

Right? We’re surrounded by lunatics

Sotuanduso ,

I know… Anyways, I’m looking forward to going home this weekend. Maybe I’ll make myself a cold hotdog with the works when I get there, that’s always a good choice.

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Disagree.

Your mom is like 70% cheese and she’s so good. 🥰🥰

Obi ,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

Fondue savoyarde enters the chat.

Mbourgon ,

Alton Brown’s with Gruyère Is fantastic. The funny thing is, kids don’t like it because it’s got too much flavor or something. Lol.

barsoap , (edited )

At the point of putting Gruyère in it you better be calling it Macaroni au Gratin Mornay.

Following Escoffier (as is proper and yes I know these aren’t home kitchen amounts do the ratios yourself):

For the Bechamel: Steam in butter until white 300g finely diced lean veal, two small finely chopped onions, a bit of thyme, pepper, nutmeg, 25g salt, add it to a base of 650g roux and 5l milk. TBH that’s too complicated for me, I put meat extract, thyme, pepper, and onions into cold milk, slowly bring it to temperature, then add cold roux and nutmeg. Also I don’t pass it through a sieve do I look like a French Chef chunks are fine.

To turn that into a Mornay, add fish fonds (fish sauce works well use the good Vietnamese stuff), for 1l Bechamel melt in 50g “Swiss cheese” and 50g Parmesan, 100g Butter. Gruyere has become standard for the Swiss part of the cheese and works on its own, often people also use an egg yolk to aid emulsion. Especially useful if you have less aromatic cheeses and want to add more, it’s not like you can’t do this with Gouda.

Oh, and you might want to reduce the salt in the Bechamel if you add fish sauce.

If you’re putting the whole thing in the oven to make a gratin (also consider throwing some veggies in, peas, carrots, nothing special the sauce is already fancy) adding the egg white is fine no harm done and extra protein, otherwise things can get complicated in actually getting it denatured properly. Without producing scrambled eggs, that is: Mix in the yolk once the sauce is cold enough to not instantly denature it, melt in the cheese, now it’s even colder, add the white and mix it well, pour over stuff, then into the oven to finish up.

Mbourgon ,

Shit. Didn’t expect Escoffier to get pulled out here. I thought it was this recipe, but I just checked and there’s only cheddar. So now I feel like I ripped you off. foodnetwork.com/…/baked-macaroni-and-cheese-recip…

But thanks for sharing the recipe! I’ve been looking for an excuse to do a Moreau sauce for a while. I don’t think it’s an actual “mother sauce”, but still one I haven’t made. Appreciate it!

barsoap ,

Bechamel is definitely the mother sauce here, yes. The general Mornay scheme could be called the mother of all cheese sauces, though, and after seeing Escoffier add fish I’ve never gone without it just harmonises so well and you can increase the total amount of umami because it’s backed by more broad-spectrum subtle aroma than cheese alone.

Side note if you’re cooking for vegetarians replace fish and veal / meat extract with mushrooms. Different, but hits just as good as the carnivore variant. Never managed a proper vegan version, the milk isn’t the problem the problem is limited choice of different sources of umami. It’s not supposed to be a yeast sauce, after all.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

I disagree

summerof69 ,

With the statement or with the ban?

CrazyLikeGollum ,

He’s right though. Macaroni and cheese is kind of mid, a solid 4/10 for cheese based dishes.

bighatchester ,

What about mac and cheese with bacon and jalapenos ?

flambonkscious ,

Hell, yeah!

CrazyLikeGollum ,

Bacon would be a slight improvement, jalapenos would be a downgrade. I’m not a huge fan of the texture or flavor of jalapenos.

agentshags ,
@agentshags@sh.itjust.works avatar

Fresh or pickled

synae ,
@synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Username checks out, probably doesn’t even know what taters is either

CrazyLikeGollum ,

…I do like my fish raw…maybe not wriggling though.

NoIWontPickAName ,

What about with rice?

CrazyLikeGollum ,

It would make it more filling and carb heavy, not much else. Rice doesn’t have a strong flavor and the cheese would overwhelm it.

agentshags ,
@agentshags@sh.itjust.works avatar

You might as well go with the cheesy chard and rice at that point

idiomaddict ,

The day I discovered that I could make the Mac and cheese sauce and put it all over the kale I got from my farm share, was the day I stopped trying to pretend to be healthy.

Bougie_Birdie ,
@Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Perfect 5/7 with rice

jsomae ,

They made the right call. Macaroni and cheese is definitely that good.

ColeSloth ,

Not the Mac n cheese for the last like 20+ years. It used to use real cheese and really did taste better. I know the internet got all uppity against kraft a while back, claiming they started making the noodle portion worse somewhere around 2016 or something, but that’s nothing compared to the big taste difference that happened when they stopped using real cheese.

heavy ,

Sorry what? You know you can make Mac and cheese from scratch right? It’s not too difficult.

krashmo ,

Are you telling me that simply dumping the contents of a cardboard box into some hot water is not the best way to cook a meal? I’m shocked

flambonkscious ,

It gets even better though, 'cos you can get all deviant and start adding to the recipe with a few bits of mushroom, bacon or maybe even chorizo

krashmo ,

My man, chorizo is the best meat there is. It makes every meal better

Facebones , (edited )

This little honduran spot near me offers this breakfasty eggs and chorizo meal and my wallet still hasn’t recovered

MrVilliam ,

Being right isn’t cheap.

Lost_My_Mind ,

I like to add mini pizzas, corndogs, a bowl of solidified soup, and 87 cans of beer.

flambonkscious ,

That is an absolute shocker, how dare you?!

Jekyll ,

Bell peppers, salami and smoked chili powder

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Bro eww that’s disgusting.

You add the whole box into some hot water. The cardboard is protein.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

It provides much-needed roughage and essential inks.

jsomae ,

The thing you’re talking about is not Mac and Cheese.

eatham ,
@eatham@aussie.zone avatar

Make it yourself, obviously ready made meals are gonna taste bad if they are cheap (which they are)

agamemnonymous ,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

Look, some people just can’t digest it. As you get older, your ability to process mac’n’cheese without dire intestinal consequences drops off substantially. The pros just simply aren’t worth the cons, not by a long shot.

Doesn’t stop me tho

jsomae ,

Huh, I didn’t know about this. What ingredient(s) cause(s) the problem?

agamemnonymous ,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

Lactose

Lost_My_Mind ,

Why must some people be so intolerant of the lactose people??? Racists…

jsomae ,

Does everyone become lactose intolerant with age?

Halosheep ,

Lactose intolerance is more common than lactose tolerance globally. In the unites states, something like 1 in 3 people are lactose intolerant.

It’s largely genetic. Lactose tolerance can be traced to nomadic tribes that kept milk producing animals as a food source, adapting to tolerate lactose in their diet over time.

jsomae ,

But I didn’t know it happened with age

EnderofGames ,

Of course it is with age. No mammals are born lactose intolerant. We drink milk as infants.

Almost universally, all adult mammals become lactose intolerant. We humans are lucky for those of us who tolerant.

jsomae ,

Sure, but I figured that lactose intolerance would typically manifest before the age of, say, 20. I didn’t realize that people could become lactose intolerant as seniors.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Your poor toilet bowl…

jaybone ,

as you get older

As you get older, you develop taste and stop eating garbage.

agamemnonymous ,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

There are varieties of mac’n’cheese other than Kraft

Kusimulkku ,

Lmao gourmet mac n’ cheese 😍

huquad ,

Oven baked Mac and cheese with bread crumb topping really is that good

Mac ,

that doesn’t make it not good though.

agamemnonymous ,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

Note “Doesn’t stop me tho”

Tar_alcaran ,

What? OP is a monster! Mods, ban this person immediately!

steal_your_face ,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

Now I want Mac and cheese

Lost_My_Mind ,

Well…Mac is here, but we can’t find cheese.

TIMMAY ,

Talking about macaroni on the internet has always been risky

RuikkaaPrus ,
@RuikkaaPrus@lemmy.ml avatar

Maybe it was a subtle way to say “macaroni and cheese is good anyway”

Juice64 ,
@Juice64@lemmy.world avatar

Are we talking Kraft or velveeta/shell? If it’s shell then I’m on your side

PopcornPrincess ,

Looks like Rocket League. If so then this would be a highly offensive thing to say. Most of the players in casual are about 10 years old 😂

Lost_My_Mind ,

The few times I played rocket league, I played casual, and got my ass handed to me.

Maybe theres a casual mode for casual players. I’m looking forward to losing to a 3 year old. Apperently those 10 year olds are way outta my skill range!

Oooooh, maybe we can find a player who’s just learning their colors! Maybe thats more my speed.

Obi ,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

You just gotta stick to it, the rocket league progress curve is incredibly steep at the beginning, but if you just brute force through it for a bit you’ll reach the first plateau where you actually manage to touch the ball once in a while. Getting over that plateau is a different story and the progress curve is much slower after that.

Also go and do the training sets, start with the easiest ones until you nail them then move on to the next one, etc.

RL is pretty much the only game I still play regularly because I’ve been playing it for a long time and I can just do one game if I don’t have much time, most other games require too much of my very limited free time.

MrVilliam ,

Same. I started with a couple of friends around when it became F2P. They live in another city, so that plus voice chat is just how we catch up and chill, usually with a few drinks and with some dumb jokes here and there. We’re familiar with the controls and systems and everything, so doing anything else has the barrier to entry of learning a whole new thing. R6 Siege looks cool but complicated. I don’t get Destiny 2. FC24 is pretty good but I’m not sure it has the same staying power for us as RL.

MufinMcFlufin ,

Even in casual mode, you have a (hidden) rank which does go down the more you lose. If you keep getting demolished in the game then I’d recommend doing the training, playing against bots, and/or continuing to play in casual mode until your rank starts placing you with other players you can better contend with.

There’s also a distinct possibility you were against someone smurfing as some people like to do that either for content or just for kicks and giggles. The very lowest ranks are probably where the most egregious smurfs like to keep their ranks, so unfortunately you can have some of the widest swings in actual skill levels.

Unfortunately the devs don’t really seem to care much about the smurfing problem in the game because it’s been pretty rampant for a very long time and some of the changes they’ve made have actually made it even easier to get away with.

JargonWagon ,

The smurfing has gotten so bad…

MufinMcFlufin ,

Discussion about it on the subreddit was insufferable back in the day. All the fanboys would show up in every thread complaining about the problem saying stupid shit like “well Psyonix has the data to judge if it’s working or not and since you don’t that makes your argument invalid”

BluJay320 ,
@BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Blocked and reported

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

That’s a soft take…

clears throat

macaroni and cheese utterly disgusting, nothing about it is appetising, the consistency of it is remarkably similar to the consistency of sewage, it smells like concentrated foot sweat and I dont know how it takes an amazing tasting product like cheese and turns it into the this horrifically vile tasting slop, but that right there is proof of Satan’s existence.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

I understand

Mammothmothman ,

i like to add cheese to mine and it makes it super creamy and tasty i also dont buy Krap brand.

jubilationtcornpone ,

I have ALWAYS hated mac and cheese. Anyone I’ve ever told this to is like “hOw CaN yOu NoT lIkE MaC aNd ChEeSe!!?? It’S aMaZiNg!!” I’m sure my dog thinks dogfood is amazing. But you don’t see me eating it.

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

My favourite line is " ohh you haven’t tried mine yet!" No I haven’t and its because I hate Mac and cheese!

Rhynoplaz ,

It’s alright. Sometimes. I have a personal mission to try many versions of various things, and Mac & cheese is one of those dishes where everybody has their own special way of doing it. Even if it’s just a box of Kraft, nearly everyone has their own way of preparing it.

Nearly every homemade Mac n cheese I’ve had is edible but not enjoyable.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Wait…are you living in a society of humanoid dogs?

Lost_My_Mind ,

I love that your username is just “dumbass”

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

Cheers! I thought it cut right to the point of who people are interacting with and hopefully they don’t take me too seriously when I say dumbass things.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You are entitled to your incorrect opinion.

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