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kep , in welp.

There’s a grain of truth in here, but not quite. One in every four or so (not quite, but we can roll with it regardless) identified species of animal is a beetle. Not one in every four animals, by population nor overall species.

The reasons for this is are many, but may include because beetles are big, easy to catch, agriculturally-significant, and are particularly easy to pin and study, dramatically boosting the count of beetle species we work with on an academic level (lending to higher identification rates). There are also just a shitload of beetle species, naturally.

Scientists estimate something closer to ~10 million species of animals, which would still make beetles a huge percentage of the species, but a far cry from 25%. If you looked at the total number (estimated) of individual animals, beetles are pretty insignificant.

Source: Studied entomology and love me some Coleoptera

greenfish OP ,
@greenfish@lemmy.world avatar

That’s exactly what a beetle would say

Kranerian , in really, you coul rent ultra po*n
@Kranerian@kbin.social avatar

I'm in my 30s and still do that. No reason to spend extra effort to give out info they don't need.

EherVielleicht OP ,

I’ll take 08.19.1995, the cross sum is 42.

Viking_Hippie ,

On the one hand, I disapprove of unnecessary math, but on the other, I approve of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy reference… That’s too big a dilemma before my second cup of coffee! https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6933c215-20c8-483a-9b48-12a7b3889303.jpeg

EherVielleicht OP ,

Enjoy your coffee good VikingHippie! May there rest of the day be easier for you.

Viking_Hippie ,

Thanks! May the rest of your day be good and easy too!

Jagermo ,

I always go back further. 1642 or 1865 for example

usualsuspect191 ,

I check to see if I can put February 30th (less common of an error these days) on the oldest year they’ll let me. 29th if 30th isn’t an option and try to select a really old non leap year

Goodtoknow , in EVs
@Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca avatar

People don’t want to change the status quo or inconvenience themselves slightly in any way for the greater good. People want a magic drop in replacement that magically “fixes/solves” the environmental crisis and allows life to continue on as is. (So they don’t have to take “yucky” public transit)

What really needs to be known though is life has to somewhat drastically change so we can make the world a healthier place for generations to come in the future.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

You’re being downvoted because you’re right. I’ve had people argue that EVs still aren’t a good alternative because they may require a bit more effort every once in a while. Like, charging for 30 minutes at a charger on a long road trip vs just gassing up. Other than that they are pretty much a drop in alternative and people still balk at them.

Then trying to get them to use public transit instead? Doesn’t even matter if it’s more convenient, they’re stuck in their ways and will refuse to change ever.

Get out of your ruts people. Just because “this is the way things are” doesn’t mean it’s the best way. Ffs the amount of midwesterners who come to my city to visit and think we’re being “unsafe” by using the train, just get out of your mindsets.

Track_Shovel ,

get out of your ruts

But thinking critically is hard and I’m lazy!

Fried_out_Kombi ,
@Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

What’s kinda funny is we already have a mode of public transit almost everybody, even those who drive everywhere, use: elevators. Buses, trains, etc. are only seen as “yucky” because most people (at least in America) don’t use them and refuse to spend their tax dollars on them, leaving them to be used primarily by the poor and desperate. But when you have public transit that is used by everybody, like elevators, you find they’re well-funded and well-kept, and absolutely no one will bat an eye about having to use it.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

It really boils down to 2 things. First is the obvious comfort, they think it’s more comfortable to be in a car. But that is broken down with traffic. You bring up traffic and they’ll complain for hours about it.

Second is fear. They won’t admit it but they’re just terrified because they just hear of the big bad city and think stepping on a train is a one way ticket to getting stabbed, while never having any real knowledge of what it’s like.

GoodGrief_HowDareYou ,

Commuted for a decade - never got stabbed, but got mugged a number of times. My parents told me repeatedly how fantastic catching the tram, train, bus etc. was - they loved catching it in on a Sunday at 11am and leaving around 2pm. They never did the 8am rush hour crunch or 6pm post-school commute. Public transport can be as fancy as you like, but if you need to travel via a rough area and the transport lacks security…

47_alpha_tango ,
@47_alpha_tango@lemmy.zip avatar

So what’s the solution for people like me that live 10 miles from the closest shop, 15 miles from the kids schools and 10 miles to the closest train station and we have no bus services that serve the village?

Fried_out_Kombi ,
@Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

Vote to allow more dense, mixed-use, transit-oriented development as well as more and better public transit. In many cases there’s a chicken-and-egg problem of NIMBYs blocking new, denser development because of fears of bringing too much traffic, but the public transit that would allay those fears isn’t built because there’s not enough density.

And so what happens is places get stuck in a trap of perpetual car-dependence, which is bad for the environment, bad for the economy, and bad for social equality (cars are super expensive and thus a particular burden on lower income folks, and many people with disabilities simply can’t drive).

The only way to break the cycle is for people to recognize what’s happening and intentionally vote their way out of it.

Ibex0 ,

“Vote to allow more dense, mixed-use, transit-oriented development as well as more and better public transit.”

But I don’t want that. My neighborhood is great, and I don’t want to turn it into my local small city or my local big city. Plus, what you’re describing is very expensive, and taxes are already high.

CyberEgg ,

Well either you could move to a different location if you want to, convince your community and local politicians to build better infrastructure, or realize that you are a minority, an edge case that usually is not adressed in these talks because a few people in remote locations using a car doesn’t hurt if we could get rid of car dependency in densely populated areas where the vast majority of humans live.

Ataraxia ,

On bike those distance are fine. Ebikes exist also. Either way I’d rather life and society adjusted itself to a slower commute than the danger and depression of car based transportation infrastructure. I used to ride my hike one hour to get groceries and an hour back. Those who are disabled can ride the bus and train. A lot of changes need to be made. Infrastructure and people need to change. I’d rather have a car free safe road for walking and riding my bike. We will all live longer to just from exercise and safer travel in general.

47_alpha_tango ,
@47_alpha_tango@lemmy.zip avatar

Getting two kids 15 miles on a bike will be fun. So would getting a weeks shopping home on one.

People need cars. It’s a fact of life.

blackn1ght ,

I’m convinced a lot of the fuck car people are people in their 20s with no kids who live in the city where they can heavily rely on good public transport and not have a need to travel too far.

I totally get the sentiment but it’s just not practical for a lot of us. To get people away from cars the local authority would need to practically fill the roads with small extremely regular buses that go all over the place. You’d never wait more than a couple of minutes outside your house for a bus to arrive to go somewhere.

zxkhngjh ,

Yeah, society, as it is now, is designed around cars. That’s kind of the entire point of the fuck cars idea. We shouldn’t have built our society with the assumption that everyone should need a car, and we should start transitioning towards something more efficient and sustainable.

ch00f ,

Try arguing that people should bring their own bags to the grocery store. Responses get hilarious quickly.

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  • Bene7rddso ,

    In some cities, e.g. Vienna, public transport already beats cars. For playing your own music I have some mid/low-range noise cancelling and can watch movies

    Appoxo , in Sorry for the inconvenience
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Time for the poop knife

    alvvayson ,

    A complimentary poop knife and ruler should be provided.

    lolcatnip ,

    *poop knife and poop ruler

    RootBeerGuy ,
    @RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    The poop knife stays on reddit. Please.

    Moc ,

    The poop knife transcends reddit, please

    radioactiveradio ,

    They probably holding it in. Lemmy people don’t shit, duh!?.

    ITypeWithMyDick ,

    But only for 3 days

    nonailsleft ,

    Can’t have both your fancy app and your fancy knife

    lolcatnip ,

    I first learned of the poop knife on Metafilter.

    PickTheStick ,

    I learned about it from my father… :'(

    DarkDarkHouse , in it's that time of year
    @DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar
    sugarcake ,

    I like IPAs and I’m secure enough to not be bothered by the mockery my basic brothers and I face online.

    SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

    My perspective is that the “basic” people can’t wait to bring up how much they despise IPAs and without a single exception the reason is always “they’re just SO hoppy!!!”

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Well given that they’re the most hoppy of the common types of beer, that reason for not liking them is hardly surprising or in any way illegitimate 🤷

    nilloc ,

    Not liking them, and not liking other people liking them are very different things.

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Such is true.

    SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

    Which is exactly why I think it’s an unnecessary and boring thing to talk about. If someone asks them, they should just say no I don’t like it. Instead they volunteer the information and emphatically state the reason as though it’s a surprise or unique in some way

    Viking_Hippie ,

    They’re probably just trying to be helpful, you know… You sound very aggravated about them simply stating a preference and the reason for said preference.

    If someone were for example to offer you an overly sweet type of confection or cake, wouldn’t you similarly answer “no thanks, too sweet for my taste?”

    SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

    No one is offering them an IPA or asking their opinion. You seem like maybe you’re one of these people? Since you’re ignoring what I wrote. They volunteer the information and then harp on it. I have heard this since I started drinking IPAs in like 2012. Ok we get it, you all hate my beer. I’m not talking shit about their awful sour beers or whatever, I keep it to myself unless asked.

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Nope, I’m not “one of those”. While I too don’t like beers to be too hoppy, it’s not something I go out of my way to tell people like some crazed stereotypical vegan 🤷

    I can see how that would get annoying in the long run though and I’m 💯 with you on sour beers lol. Second worst beer I ever tasted was a gose and the worst wasn’t an IPA either lol

    SnowdenHeroOfOurTime ,

    Yeah it definitely gets annoying. It’s at the point where if I’m drinking with 3 new people, I expect at least one person to ask what I got and if it’s an IPA tell me how much they don’t like it. It’s been going on so long and it’s uncanny how often it happens…

    I’ve tried sour beers and usually they are god-awful. I think I had a drinkable one once. I mention them here though because it also feels like a trend that the same haters of my beer will often be drinking a sour beer lol. In my head I’m like “welp your opinion is confirmed completely unreliable on all beer”

    reverendsteveii ,

    But of the near-infinite number of things a person dislikes, they only meme about a couple. The Internet loves an easy target…

    Viking_Hippie ,

    of the near-infinite number of things a person dislikes, they only meme about a couple

    only meme about a couple

    a couple

    Are you NEW? 🤦

    reverendsteveii ,

    Nope, just bored to death by the seagulls constantly squawking “THING BAD! THING BAD!”

    abraxas ,

    I heard a real-world explanation about why IPAs are the most common and commonly-sought craft beer. Half the reasons are unflattering, but a few are valid.

    1. They’re harder to fuck up because the Hops covers every damn thing and is so forgiving. Ever heard a cooking show talk about how hard a perfect Filet Mignon is because you can’t hide behind anything and everyone knows what it should taste like? Ditto with a good red ale or even pilsner.
    2. Similarly, nobody is known for their signature Filet Mignon because (within reason) a filet is a filet. Ditto with most types of beers. IPAs give opportunity for a lot more variety. Which is why you have more breweries making them, and then more people consuming them. I go out of my way to find non-MGP whiskey because MGP whiskies all taste the damn same to me, and I usually find a couple unique bottles every year. I can respect someone who wants to try a totally new beer every week and just fall back on a few faves.
    3. Related again to #2. Beyond being “SO hoppy”, IPAs have more unique flavor profiles than all other beers combined. Different hops can net you notes of orange, lemon, grapefruit, or notes of the pith of one of those, or notes of the rind of one of those. Different amounts or processing of hops can give you different intensities of those. That’s a lot of flavor profiles from sweet to sour to bitter, all in the same category.

    So I’m “basic” nowadays re: beer, and I despise IPAs because I literally cannot stand the bitter&pithy ones (esp Grapefruit Pith), and there’s no easy way to know what an IPA will taste like till you’ve paid for it and cracked it open. I also get reflux and nothing blows that shit out of the water like an IPA. There’s a hops shop down the street from me, but if I’m going to brew a beer (super rare, I usually make whiskey or mead) it’s gonna be something will a chill flavor profile.

    reverendsteveii ,

    there’s no way to know what an IPA will taste like before you crack it open

    That’s why I like brewers that publish their hops. I’m the opposite of you, I live for the citrusy, fruity type of hops and despise the more traditional floral/piney strains. If I see simcoe on the bill I’ll go to bed sober, but if you’ve got Willamette or Cascade I’ll make tea from them.

    Sheeple ,
    @Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

    Meanwhile I don’t even have an idea what the hell am IPA is. Is it like a kind of beer?

    nilloc ,

    Stands for India Pale Ale. i was originally told they used to brew stronger beer to make it last the long trip to India before refrigeration was a thing.

    So it tends to be higher ABV and more bitter or hoppy to go with the higher alcohol content.

    insomniac ,
    @insomniac@sh.itjust.works avatar

    The hop part is a bit more interesting. The strong beers of the time weren’t enough to keep the beer from getting infected. However, hops are a natural preservative. The oils have antibiotic properties. They were initially used as a preservative for weak British ales and the taste was a side effect but not necessarily the desired effect. When they had trouble shipping their beers across the world, they would pack the beer full of hops so it would make the trip. Eventually, Brits in India developed a taste for the bitter beer that was shipped to them and a beer style was born.

    nilloc ,

    Thanks, I knew I was missing something. It’s been probably 10 years since I did a brewery tour that actually taught anything.

    ThePac ,

    This thing got really popular for some reason. It must be awful!

    boiledfrog ,

    What if my enjoyement is making fun of basic white dudes drinking IPA’s?

    Jax ,
    ummthatguy , in They aren't fooling around
    @ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar

    Potato… right. Anyone handy with the flamethrower?

    https://media.tenor.com/8zN5gyg3D2YAAAAC/crawling-monster.gif

    _haha_oh_wow_ ,
    @_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Why? We making baked potatoes?

    ImmortanStalin ,

    Well, damn.

    ProvableGecko ,

    I’m pretty handy with the airfryer

    x4740N ,
    @x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

    Didn’t know they sold walking sentient fleshlight’s

    vaultdweller013 ,

    That is probably the last thing you would want to use as a fleshlight.

    Zetta , in And also a robot dinosaur rocketship

    This is my shower. It has 12 heads and consumes ten thousand gallons of deionized water per minute. It costs four hundred thousand dollars to use this shower… for twelve seconds.

    Certainly_No_Brit ,
    SirQuackTheDuck ,

    YouTube link, youtu.be/jHgZh4GV9G0

    Bring it bot!

    Getallen ,

    Why Piped for the bot? Why not Invidious?

    Viking_Hippie ,
    Getallen ,
    Secret300 ,

    Oh my God who touched Sasha. WHO TOUCHED MY SHOWER!

    FilthyShrooms ,

    Real talk tho, this probably has only about 5 minutes of hot water before your hot water tank is empty

    Fraylor ,

    Tankless water heater baby. But lemme tell ya what it would BLOW to take a shower in that without power. A cold shower is rough enough without 11 extra heads blasting you.

    Zetta ,

    I bet you’d need an extraordinarily large and commercial tankless water heater to keep up with this beast

    RedditWanderer ,

    You just need to go live near an ice cap

    31337 , in Listen here, kulak...

    I mean technically, you could have a farm if you worked the entire farm by yourself (personal vs private property).

    coltorl ,

    And technically that means you’re producing on that farm which makes it private property.

    crispy_kilt ,

    Nah

    zephyreks ,

    That’s not really how it works

    coltorl ,

    I’m sorry, are you implying that private ownership of a means of production (in this case, farm land) is acceptable in a socialist economy?

    LifeInMultipleChoice ,

    What I never quite understand/know is where internet based services land. If I run a cloud based storage company / web design company or such, the servers are on my personal property and therefore should be considered allowed. Where does that start becoming non “personal.”

    It’s like charging someone to park their ideas/data on my personal property. Which I imagine would be considered private property instead. Where is the nuanced line?

    Anyone care to explain?

    zbyte64 ,
    @zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    We’re communicating using the fediverse. I can use my own private instance to connect, but in my case I am using a “collective” instance. While capitalism sees the Lemmy Blahaj as a “private enterprise”, it is functionally more akin to a free associative collective where members can take their content with them.

    I would say part of the confusion is because our technology has evolved in a capitalist context, collectivism isn’t the default state of being so the solutions made cater towards (corporate) private ownership.

    GreatGrapeApe ,

    Only if you keep all the stuff you produce

    coltorl ,

    Oh cool, socialism is when you own a means of production but only keep some of the produced goods.

    GreatGrapeApe ,

    If you keep more than you need, yes. Socialism is not about hoarding wealth especially in the form of necessary goods.

    coltorl ,

    Ok, thanks for clarifying that the internet still has no idea what socialism is.

    GreatGrapeApe ,

    How is private ownership of farmland socialism?

    coltorl ,

    Good question.

    Aux ,

    Yeah, socialism is about slave labour.

    aport ,

    Who gets to decide how much I need? Some juche thug in the capital wearing a bunch of fake military ribbons? Sign me up!

    zbyte64 ,
    @zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    IDK, maybe we could decide such things similar to how we’re having this conversation and we’re able to upvote on what’s being said. Totally unprecedented I know.

    aport ,

    Do you think there’s voting involved in a command economy?

    My brother in Marx, that’s not how any of this works.

    zbyte64 ,
    @zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Me: how about democracy in the work place?

    Reactionaries: but what about Stalin?

    Me: did I stutter?

    brainrein ,

    Socialism is when you don’t have to do alienated work. And when noone else has to. Of course the productivity will be higher if you share the means of production with others. But it’s perfectly fine to work on your own too and harvest the fruit of your work. As you know, nobody gets rich by his own hands work, but you can get along. Capitalist exploitation starts when other people work for you and when you take the added value for your own benefits.

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,
    @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

    Tell me how you know nothing about socialism without telling me you know nothing about socialism.

    coltorl ,

    Lol, sure.

    purahna ,
    @purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    You’re getting a lot of flak (rightly), but I figured I’d actually give you a right definition so this can be a growing opportunity: If you own a resource and you use that resource to produce profit, that resource is private property. If you’re not making profit, it’s only personal property. Farm for your family? Personal property. Farm where you give the output to your community? Personal property. Farm where you sell the yields? Private property.

    coltorl ,

    Ok, so exploitable land (a means of production) can be owned for the exclusive enjoyment of an individual in a socialist economy. Got it, thanks.

    purahna ,
    @purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Yes, exploitable land can be owned by an individual in a socialist economy. If you’re growing food for your family, then that’s just one family the state doesn’t have to feed. If you’re growing food for your community, then that’s several mouths the state doesn’t have to feed. If you’re hoarding or selling food (or in one very famous historical case, burning it out of spite), then you are monopolizing a resource that could be feeding people, and the state will intervene, whether by buying your land back from you, taking it from you, liquidating you as a class, or some other solution to be determined by the state in question - there is no one size fits all blueprint to socialism.

    coltorl ,

    I know I was being snarky, but I do appreciate the context. The monopolizing bit clarifies it for me as something that you may own but if found to be monopolizing the resource to a detriment of the community, that is not acceptable. So “own” isn’t really used here to mean entitled to, but something that you may possess as an appropriation while acting in good faith.

    virtualbriefcase ,

    “Or some other other solution to be determined by the state in question”

    Gulags, generally speaking

    OurToothbrush ,

    Yes, people who burn food during a famine should be rehabilitated, and prisons were the method (that doesn’t work) that people thought was effective to that end at the time.

    aport ,

    Yes, people who burn food during a famine should be rehabilitated

    And what of people who steal food during a famine, like the bolsheviks?

    OurToothbrush ,

    People should steal food from hoarders to redistribute it to starving peasants actually.

    If youre talking about grain quotas they stopped taking grain out of the region and started importing food when they realized there was a famine.

    aport ,

    People should steal food from hoarders to redistribute it to starving peasants actually.

    I agree, but the quota on kulak liquidation led to starving peasants being targeted.

    If youre talking about grain quotas they stopped taking grain out of the region and started importing food when they realized there was a famine.

    After millions of people had already starved to death. A minor but necessary bump in the road toward industrialization, I’m sure.

    OurToothbrush ,

    After millions of people had already starved to death. A minor but necessary bump in the road toward industrialization, I’m sure.

    It wasn’t necessary. They could have foreseen the need for an independent commission to verify the numbers that local officials were reporting. They could have cracked down harder on sabotage of planting and harvesting and the mass slaughter of livestock by kulaks.

    Industrialization was necessary. If they didn’t push hard for industrialization we might all be speaking German right now. They cut it close to the wire and the mistakes that they made resulted in mass suffering. But there were no more famines with the exception of post ww2 after that famine, in an area that previously frequently had famines, because collectivization worked once the kinks were worked out.

    aport ,

    Rapid industrialization at the cost of millions of lives was only a necessity because Stalin insisted on Socialism in One Country.

    Had proletariat revolutions not failed elsewhere, especially Western Europe, there would be no need for such a haphazard and reckless transition.

    OurToothbrush ,

    Okay but how was the soviet union to create a global proletarian revolution? They had to work with what they had.

    aport ,

    You could ask Trotsky but Stalin had him murdered 🤷

    OurToothbrush ,

    I’ve read Trot stuff and found their arguments unconvincing in this context. Global proletarian revolution is something we all have to exercise agency over, if youre in the soviet union you can’t just rely on everyone else spontaneously uprising, you have to plan for that not happening. And it didn’t happen, so…

    purahna ,
    @purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    You’re right, it’s so fucked up that Stalin stole all those poor Kulaks’ grain and put it in a big swimming pool so that he and his cabinet could swim around in it like Scrooge McDuck.

    aport ,

    Are there Kulaks in the room with you right now?

    The soviets took enough grain from Ukrainian peasants to induce widespread hunger and death. But let’s blame 1% of the peasantry who had already liquidated as a class.

    purahna ,
    @purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    I literally said “liquidating you as a class” as a possible retaliation. “Gulags” is not a gotcha, if you hoard or destroy food during a famine you are committing murder and you need to be stopped for the good of society.

    By the way, the US prison population today is higher than the Gulag population of the entire Soviet Union at its peak. I’d sure as hell rather see gulags full of reactionaries and food-burners than full of drug users and the chronically unemployed. I’m curious, why do you prefer the latter?

    aport ,

    Tankie apologetics 101:

    1. Every victim of Bolshevik aggression deserved it
    2. What about America?
    purahna ,
    @purahna@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    it blows my mind the lengths that online rightists will go to to defend literally burning food during a famine. Why?

    aport ,

    What percentage of the harvest was lost to the destruction of grain?

    virtualbriefcase ,

    By the way, the US prison population today is higher than the Gulag population of the entire Soviet Union at its peak.

    Well being worked to death and/or being strait up shot tends to keep those numbers down. And how many of those “hoarders” were quite literally starving but they had a tiny bit on hand? And how many more were in there for “anti-soviet behavior” instead of anything related to hoarding or destroying food.

    “Gulags” is not a gotcha

    Gulags, concentration camps and the like are definitely a “gotcha” as much as a “gatcha” can exist.

    aport ,

    In reality the party takes the food you’ve grown for your family and gives it to urban centers, and if you resist you catch a bullet.

    OurToothbrush ,

    Want to add on that there is another distinction which I think is slightly more accurate. Personal property only denies use to others through the details of use by the owner, private property prevents others from using resources that the person using the property isn’t directly using through threats of violence.

    AngryCommieKender ,

    Wrong. Personal property is owned by an individual person. Private property is owned by corporations/ capital. It’s impossible for one to magically change into the other.

    zbyte64 ,
    @zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Under a capitalist legal framework yes, but hear me out, it’s possible to redefine laws and is really what this debate is about.

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Or they could share ownership of that farm with others that also work on it AKA a non-profit co-op 🤷

    Knusper , in damn smartphone....

    In one of the bathrooms at my workplace, the light timer used to be far too short. It reacted to sound, but not very well, so whenever it switched off, you’d hear me clapping my hands like a dumbass.

    Then one day, I had a co-sitting with another guy. And of course, the light went out on us. I was already thinking, great, now I’ll get to applaud that guy shitting.

    But instead, the guy lifted his leg, stomped a single time and the light went back on. That was the day I learnt that I’m a rookie at pooping.

    EherVielleicht OP ,

    Best toilet story I’ve heard so far…

    PelicanPersuader ,
    @PelicanPersuader@beehaw.org avatar

    Does that make it the shittiest, or the least shitty?

    hstde ,

    You merely adopted the dark. He pooped in it, molded by it.

    Spliffman1 , (edited )
    @Spliffman1@lemmy.world avatar

    I hate co sitting, will never do it voluntarily, it’s always a guy arriving after me and ruining my vibe

    Alpharius , in It was necessary for the plot
    @Alpharius@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Tarantino will just make some of the best movies you ever watched just to film someone’s feet or say the nword.

    The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
    @The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

    His movies are fantastic, so I support giving him as long a leash as he wants.

    Alpharius ,
    @Alpharius@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    yeah they are a blast to watch

    CitizenKong ,

    He’s probably also into that.

    PP_BOY_ ,
    @PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

    It depends, are you a slim, blonde woman with a slightly socially dominating personality?

    MargotRobbie ,

    Gee, I wonder, who could this description be referring to? 🤔

    Vent , in ~~Wall~~ Sesame street

    That’s the classic “If I owe you $5 it’s my problem. If I owe you $5B it’s your problem.”

    jasondj , in Can't ticket what you can't catch

    You ever see those “Speed limit enforced by aircraft” signs? That’s the guy you gotta worry about.

    lugal ,

    That’s what “©” means. In most states you are by natural law not allowed to be faster than the speed of light

    boonhet ,

    most states

    lugal ,

    I don’t know of any where it’s allowed but I didn’t want to generalize since generalizations are always wrong. Always.

    jasondj ,

    Physics is full of woke librul propaganda like “conservation of energy”.

    In my state we obey the laws of alchemy.

    droans ,

    Some states haven’t adopted the most recent version of the laws of physics.

    Gestrid ,

    That version’s kinda glitchy, TBH. It’s better they don’t update until it’s been patched a bit more.

    ramjambamalam ,

    … of matter

    Akasazh , (edited )
    @Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

    That damned big governement and their rules smh

    /s

    u202307011927 ,
    @u202307011927@feddit.de avatar

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  • lugal ,

    Most of the times, yes

    moistclump ,

    I never actually understood those. Do they actually have, like… a drone? Is it snapping a photo? How’s it all work?

    Gork ,

    So you’ll occasionally see two white lines perpendicular to the road at a set internal. A helicopter, drone, or plane can time when a car passes both of these lines and can calculate the average speed of the car.

    This info is then relayed to a police car on the ground who then pulls over the driver.

    moistclump ,

    Why is that better than the police officer who was going to pull them over just using a speed gun?

    Gork ,

    shrugs

    Less likely to be noticed by drivers or alerts like on Waze. Probably a bit more costly though if they’re using helicopters or planes instead of drones.

    moistclump ,

    It seems like if the purpose was stealth then they wouldn’t have a sign announcing it.

    Gork ,

    Deterrence. You never know when they might be monitoring you above, so watch your speed.

    iforgotmyinstance ,

    I drive through areas like this all the time for years. I have never heard of anyone actually getting a ticket from this.

    uphillbothways , in Ban dihydrogen monoxide
    @uphillbothways@kbin.social avatar

    Dihydrogen monoxide isn't a good name for water, especially in this context. Hydroxic acid or hydrogen hydroxide make much more sense.
    Water only splits into O2 and H2 under electrolysis, not due to acid/base chemistry. You have to be actively adding electrons. In solution, it dissociates into ion states as protons H+ and hydroxide OH-.

    Sir_Premiumhengst ,
    • Hydronium Oxide
    Eheran ,

    Hydroxic acid sounds more terrible in this context, yes. But what does that have to do with possible reactions of H2O?

    uphillbothways ,
    @uphillbothways@kbin.social avatar

    https://wiki.c2.com/?HydrogenHydroxide

    Hydrogen Hydroxide
    Water.
    Specifically, water reacting as a base. When reacting as an acid its systematic name is Hydroxic Acid.
    Oddly enough, water can be considered a molecule (H2O), or an ion group (H+ and OH-). Once I got that through my skull, the whole acid/base mess got much clearer.

    Eheran ,

    It is not reacting as an acid here, it is both at once.

    And that was not even the point.

    Diabolo96 ,

    Neeeeeeeeeerd!

    Got more interesting science stuff ?

    NielsBohron , (edited )
    @NielsBohron@lemmy.world avatar

    Water is the most common substance that can be either an acid or a base (on earth), but lots of other compounds are also amphoteric.

    In fact, on other planets where ammonia fills the same role as water, ammonia would be the most common amphoteric substance, so most solutions would be in a liquid ammonia solvent. This means neutral pH on those planets would substantially higher!

    K_w is the auto dissociation constant for water, and at room temp, K_w is about 10^(-14). Taking the negative log of the square root of K_w gives the pH of pure water of about 7. The auto dissociation constant of ammonia, however, is about 10^(-30), so the pH of pure liquid ammonia is about 15! Basically, as soon as we start using solvents other than water, pH gets really funky

    Edit: and before anyone jumps in to say “ack-shully, pH is based on the concentration of hydronium ions in solution, so you can’t use pH for systems based on solvents other than water,” pH can also be considered to be based on the protonated form of whatever the solvent is. So in an ammonia-based solution, you would find the pH by taking the negative log of ammonium instead of hydronium. Instead of defining pH as

    pH = -log [H_3 O^(+)]

    A more universal definition would be

    pH = -log [H_2 A^(+)]

    Where the auto dissociation reaction of any amphoteric solvent can be written as

    HA + HA -> H_2 A^(+) + A^(-)

    This is more detail than most people care about, but there’s always lurking pedants on the Internet, so I thought I would leave a more detailed explanation

    Diabolo96 , (edited )

    I knew that other planets had other chemicals as the most abondant substance on them but it being replacing water is something i never knew. Perhaps, aliens are sipping ammonia based cola as we speak !

    Care to explain the neutral PH thing ? I don’t really understand it. Does it mean ammonia based liquids wan to stabilize to 15 PH or something like that.

    Sorry if it sounds dumb, English isn’t my native language and i wasn’t really a science guy at school when kid. Now, everything fascinates me. I never was good with math but i saw its beauty in programming ( if we taught kids math by making games with it we’d have a whole generation of math lovers )

    NielsBohron ,
    @NielsBohron@lemmy.world avatar

    Not dumb at all! In order to not write an even bigger wall of text, I assumed some things, like everyone already knowing that in water, a pH of 7 is considered neutral. This is because that solution would have an equal amount of acidic ions and basic ions, each with a concentration of approximately 10^(-7) moles per liter. But with a different solvent like ammonia, the change in auto dissociation constant means that to get an equal number of acidic and basic ions, you would only need a concentration of 10^(-15) moles per liter.

    So, it would change a lot of the standard practices in a lab, like making buffers, neutralizing solutions, etc. Since it’s Saturday and I’m doing this all off the top of my head, I don’t know what other implications there might be, but basically a lot of things that chemists and biochemists take for granted would need to recalculated. Acids would be more acidic, bases more basic, etc. In ammonia, even water would be a fairly strong acid!

    The chemistry doesn’t really change, but a lot of the standard practices would need to be done differently (including the way we make buffers, measure pH, and the range of pH that a solution could be).

    Diabolo96 ,

    Thanks a lot for you explanation !

    I knew water have a pH of 7 and is neutral and after reading your response i very very vaguely remember our teacher telling explaining what pH meant in middle school but a reminder was definitely needed. The rest is extremely interesting so Again, a huge thank you !!!

    I’ll likely go read about chemistry for dummies because i feel a bit ashamed of my limited knowledge with basic chemistry.

    NielsBohron , (edited )
    @NielsBohron@lemmy.world avatar

    No need to get ashamed! Lots of people had bad experiences in chemistry classes at a young age and don’t remember much beyond “it was hard, it didn’t make sense, and I was really bad at it.” So, you’re in good company!

    This is at least partly because chemistry was traditionally a “weed out” class, meaning it was used to determine whether people “had what it takes” to succeed in the sciences. As a result it was usually taught in a way that made it harder than it needs to be and a lot of people decided not to pursue STEM careers/education because chemistry felt too hard. But lots of times , it felt too hard just because it was taught poorly (on purpose).

    Basically, don’t be afraid to get back into chemistry! Even though I’m in chemistry education, I don’t really have any great book recs for someone starting from scratch, as I’d want to recommend a textbook that’s not necessarily easy to work through in your own. However, The Poisoner’s Handbook by Deborah Blum and Uncle Tungsten by Oliver Sacks are both really fun to read and relatively accessible. To get more of a well rounded, academic understanding I would highly recommend taking a class at a local college (community college if you’re in the US, to keep the cost down, but there are probably similar options in other countries). It would be more work and deadlines, but trying to educate yourself about this stuff can be really hard and intimidating, and if you take a class, you’ll be much more likely to stick with it and get something out of it.

    Diabolo96 ,

    Thanks for the books recommendation. Where i live, I don’t think there’s any way to learn chemistry at a school other than going to middle school again, which I doubt I’d be even allowed.

    There’s probably a book or an app that can teach the basics of chemistry. Most people i know are so illiterate about chemistry that they mix household products and create toxic gases.

    NielsBohron ,
    @NielsBohron@lemmy.world avatar

    Hydroxic acid hydrohydroxic acid

    If the anion ends in “ide”, the acid name is hydro___ic acid. So hydroxide becomes hydrohydroxic acid.

    Source: I teach chemistry.

    AngryCommieKender ,

    Username almost checks out? IIRC Niels was a physicist, not a chemist.

    NielsBohron ,
    @NielsBohron@lemmy.world avatar

    Well, my grad school research used quantum mechanical calculations to predict physical properties of chemicals, so it fits for me ;)

    Plus, as long as I have to teach first years the Bohr model, I figure chemistry can claim him as an honorary chemist. After all, what is chemistry but applied physics? Relevant xkcd: “Purity of the field”

    mexicancartel ,

    Damn didnt expect that was your real name haha <3

    LetterboxPancake ,

    So, uhm… wanna cook?

    CrabAndBroom , in English Language Problems

    In German:

    Man = male (der Mann)

    Woman = female (die Frau)

    Boy = male (der Junge)

    Girl = neutral (das Mädchen)

    No idea why lol.

    Also I’m learning French and everything has a gender but I don’t see any pattern to it at all. Pizza is female, books are male, a suitcase is female, hats are male and so on.

    Also in French, the names of numbers go absolutely mental once you go above about 50. That’s got nothing to do with gender but I want to complain it whenever I can.

    Sebeck012 ,

    I think it’s das Mädchen because it’s a sort of diminutive (by use of chen). But it’s been a while since I studied German.

    ahornsirup , (edited )
    @ahornsirup@artemis.camp avatar

    Correct, all diminutives are neuter in German. In this instance the base word is die Magd (historically the maiden, nowadays the maid), which is grammatically female.

    Gilles_D ,

    In contrast to Mädchen the equivalent for Junge, „Jüngchen“, has not entered officialese and is seldomly used in colloquial language.

    And it is also „das Jüngchen“.

    HerbalGamer ,

    Austrians: da buah

    tobimai ,

    Afaik it comes from Magd, which is female lol.

    sonnenzeit ,

    related to maid, mädel. confer “maiden” in English

    tintintin ,

    Aber was machen Sachen :o

    DarkenLM ,

    Ah, yes the famous quatre-vingt-dix-neuf (commonly pronounced "quatre-vingt-deez-nuts"). Numbers are quite a mouthful in French. One of the reasons I erased it from my memory the moment I didn't need it no more.

    TheHottub , (edited )
    @TheHottub@lemmy.world avatar

    I only speak English but I have always thought we should pronounce 11 through 19 as tendy one, tendy two, tendy three, tendy four… tendy nine, twenty.

    HikingVet ,

    Huh?

    tubaruco ,

    so you pronounce eleven as tendy one?

    TheHottub ,
    @TheHottub@lemmy.world avatar

    Eleven through nineteen do not follow the same naming convention that the twentys, thirtys, forties and so on do. For example, fifty one, fifty two… Instead of eleven it should be tenty one. The pattern should match.

    boCash ,
    @boCash@lemmy.blugatch.tube avatar

    I hate to break it to you bub, but it appears that you don’t speak English either.

    Harrison ,

    I don’t know why, but that’s disgusting

    VikingHippie ,

    Reminds me of a famous quote from Danish humorist Jacob Haugaard:

    French is an easy language to learn: a horse is called chevalle and it’s like that all the way

    SpaceCadet ,
    @SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Girl = neutral (das Mädchen)

    No idea why lol.

    Mädchen is a diminutive, and all diminutives are grammatically neutral.

    It’s the same in Dutch btw, and my girlfriend who is learning Dutch is frequently abusing this as a cheat code: whenever she doesn’t know the gender of a word, she’ll just use the diminutive and it will automatically be neutral.

    Holzkohlen ,

    I just might have just learned smth about my native language.

    drew_belloc ,
    @drew_belloc@programming.dev avatar

    So french is just like portuguese, but in portuguese you normally know if something is male or female by the ending of the words (with a feel exceptions), for example pizza is female because ends with “a”

    Interesting_Test_814 ,

    This is the same in french, the gender of words is generally determined by their ending. (Which is not pronounced.)

    drew_belloc ,
    @drew_belloc@programming.dev avatar

    Good to know, french is on my list of languages that i wanna learn someday

    merc ,

    But French is so hard to find rules about that compared to say Spanish.

    English French Spanish ?
    a mouse une souris el raton / el mouse so in French “-is” is a female ending?
    a mouse pad un tapis de souris una afombrilla de mouse no, tapis is male, even if souris is female
    a cable un câble un cable ok, if it ends in “e” it’s male?
    an icon un icône un icono yes, ends in “e” it’s male!
    the memory la memoire la memoria no, ends in “e” it’s female!

    Spanish is much simpler: ends in ‘a’ it’s mostly female (except stupid poema, and a few others), ends in ‘o’ it’s male (except foto, and a few others). If there’s a rule to French I don’t know it, and none of my French teachers knew it. If you’re French, you just grow up learning which words are male and which are female, so French speakers just naturally know and can’t explain it.

    Interesting_Test_814 ,

    Yeah, there are quite a lot of exceptions but “-e is female, otherwise is male” works most of the time. Then if you want to be more precise you can remember some generic exceptions like -age, -isme are male and -tion, -té is female. You’ll still have some exceptions like une souris, une vis, une dent, un câble, un graphe, un cône, une image (exception to the exception) but it probably works in about 80-90% of cases.

    (Also “icône” is actually female in French)

    supercriticalcheese ,

    Ohh oui, french numbers I think they go mental after 69 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    70: 60+10 (soixante-dix)

    91: 4x20+11 (quatre-vingt-onze)

    Why? No clue I am not french.

    jarfil , (edited )

    May or may not have some relation, but next to France/part of, lies the Basque country, where all numbers under 100 are base 20+10, except 11 and 19…

    57: 2×20+10+7 (berr-ogei-ta-hama-zazpi)

    79: 3×20+19 (hiru-r-ogei-ta-hemeretzi)

    French (in Belgium, Switzerland, and former colonies) also allows simple base 10:

    70: 70 (septante)

    91: 90+1 (nonante-et-un)

    …so the geographic location seems to have an impact.

    And just next to it, in Spain, everything is base 10… except 11 to 15 change the order from n×10+m, into 1+10 to 5+10.

    Italian does the same, except it’s 11 to 16… just like in French.

    English has a hiccup with eleven and twelve, then goes to n-teen, before going base 10 with n×10+m above 20.

    German does the same, except it goes to m+n×10 above 20.

    Overall, 20 seems to be a magic number, France just seems to have mixed in different ways of using it.

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigesimal

    sonnenzeit ,

    No idea why lol.

    This always confused me, even as a native speaker so I looked it up some. Ultimately it’s because modern German is the confluence of multiple older, historic languages one of which came from a tree with a strict male/female rule for nouns while the other one’s grammar defaulted to a neutral case.

    As languages merge or adopt from others they often becomes a conjoined mess of multiple rules coexisting at the same time. A contemporary example is that in English the plural of a word is usually formed by attaching the suffix “s” to the singular form, aka house becomes houses. However there’s plenty of exceptions (mouse, mice) in particular if the words stem from a different language (octopus, octopi but nowadays octotuses is also acceptable). In that sense to people not privy to the etymology of words and who only study/learn the language per se there would be no perfectly accurate mechanism to predict the plural of a word.

    sonnenzeit ,

    Also bonus content:

    singular: “das Mädchen” (neutral) - the girl

    plural: “die Mädchen” (female) - the girls

    So in the plural form you have to use a female article again, but the actual spelling of the word is unchanged. Go figure 🤷‍♂️ 🇩🇪.

    Holzkohlen ,

    The simple past of read is read, but you pronounce it like red. I assume ever language on earth has its quirks.

    Bene7rddso ,

    In plural every gender has the article “die”

    sonnenzeit ,

    Well at least it consistently unlogical. But wait: it actually depends on the grammatical case for example:

    die Mädchen = the girls das Haus der Mädchen = the house of the girls // the girls’ house

    So depending on context male, female, neutral articles are all used (der Mädchen, die Mädchen, das Mädchen) 🤷‍♂️

    Bene7rddso ,

    That’s not a male article, that’s the genitive plural article

    Flumsy ,

    “Die” is always the plural article:

    DAS Auto - DIE Autos / DER Baum - DIE Bäume / DIE Fliege - DIE Fliegen /

    Syldon ,
    @Syldon@feddit.uk avatar

    It was to make the male seem more important. Even in English the word “woman” comes from “wife man”. Everything was about the pecking order in history. Gender bias was a major part of that.

    Harrison ,

    That’s a misrepresentation of old English. Man used to be neutral, and was modified by were and wif respectively for man and woman. Wife comes from woman, not the other way around.

    merc ,

    German is so weird. They came up with the concept of a neutral gender, but objects that obviously have no real gender (tables, boxes, sunglasses) don’t use neuter.

    Like, what’s the process when they create a new word.

    “Computer”… hmm, I think it’s female.

    Nah, it’s neuter.

    You guys are idiots, he’s obviously male!

    Oh yeah, Gunther is right! Look at him!

    Darthjaffacake ,

    I’m really curious what the process for it forming was like too but just gonna put it out there that gender in language generally has more to do with tracking what the word is than literally thinking stuff has gender. Originally there was a proposal to call it left and right to make it clear that it’s just a split.

    Flumsy ,

    Because we already had a word for “computer” (literally: calculator) which had the male article so when we started using the English word “computer” we kept the article :)

    BluesF ,

    In gendered languages the “gender” of things other than people doesn’t really relate to human gender at all. It’s just a grammatical construct.

    emergencyfood ,

    Mostly yes, but a few gendered languages (Wikipedia lists the Yeniseian and most Dravidian languages, Dizi and Zande) use strict semantic criteria, so that the grammatical gender does correlate strictly with the actual gender 99% of the time.

    Krachsterben ,

    My favourite is some words having different pronouns in different regions. Like der/die/das Nutella, der Butter, das Joghurt 😳

    state_electrician ,

    Who the fuck says “der Butter” or “das Joghurt”? Nutella is difficult, because it’s a name.

    Krachsterben ,

    Einige Regionen in Bayern. In Teilen Österreichs auch gerne feminin die Joghurt

    state_electrician ,

    Computer means Rechner, which is obviously male, because women can’t math. It’s easy if you just think about it.

    devfuuu ,
    PipedLinkBot ,

    Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/watch?v=9rmBqIFeHN8

    Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

    I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

    crispy_kilt ,

    Mädchen is neuter because it is diminuitive.

    Das Häuschen Das Bäumchen Das Hügelchen

    and so on. Diminuitive is always neuter, and Mädchen is diminuitive of Magd (or Maid, I forgot).

    matlag ,

    French here. If you learn in Belgium or Switzerland, they have “septante” and “nonante” for 70 and 90.

    It’s for sure more intuitive, but you have to admit that saying “four-twenty-twelve” (non-french speakers: that’s literal translation for 92) is sooooo cool!

    Tathas ,

    I’ll just leave this one for you :)

    youtu.be/xX_IOqkRsdw?si=bSwRh7yXyl6NAfT_

    PipedLinkBot ,

    Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/xX_IOqkRsdw?si=bSwRh7yXyl6NAfT_

    Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

    I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

    wewbull ,

    They obviously ran out of fingers and toes at fifty, so they traditionally never went any further.

    Jay , in 5 parallel universes ahead

    Who will explain the concept of a regular printer to him?

    ssboomman ,

    Teachers are starting to enforce hand written assignments to stop the use of chatGPT

    Jay ,

    Sure, but you can clearly see from the result that it’s not handwritten. The person could have used a normal printer.

    SirAtomic ,

    This video says it’s possible to make it look like a human wrote it.

    Jay ,

    That’s really cool

    Hamartiogonic ,
    @Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

    If you’re wondering if this is more work than writing the actual essay, we don’t talk about that here.

    GigglyBobble ,

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  • ssboomman ,

    It’s a deterrent, not an end all be all solution to end cheating.

    protist ,

    They want you to hand copy what ChatGPT outputs and turn it in? That’s a terrible response to AI. If they want to hold you accountable, they should have you write it right there in front of them.

    ssboomman ,

    It’s a deterrent, not an end all be all solution to end cheating.

    VikingHippie ,

    Now you’re sounding like Elon Musk demanding that people who work better from home return to Tesla offices…

    Only worse, since you also want to add an extra anxiety-inducing and impractical layer of in-person surveillance 🤦

    protist ,

    This has nothing to do with work from home policies. I also don’t know how to approach the concept that completing schoolwork in school is “in person surveillance” and not just “schoolwork”

    VikingHippie ,

    It’s like (lack of) work from home politicies in that it’s forcing people to do things a specific way in a specific place even though it’s much less convenient AND much less efficient.

    It’s in person surveillance because “right in front of” implies physical proximity where the teacher is watching, making some students unnecessarily anxious.

    I get that you probably grew up in a more primitive time where such methods were the norm, but things change as society progresses and your industrial age solution to an information age challenge is likely to cause a lot more harm than good, if it even does good at all.

    protist ,

    Ok, so if you think students demonstrating their knowledge in class is “primitive,” can you describe how you think school should work?

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    He thinks AI should do all the thinking for him and he should be able to take all of the credit, so he doesn’t have to learn anything. Ignorance is something to strive for to these people because ignorance = less work.

    VikingHippie ,

    Nope, never said any such nonsense. Sounds like you’re projecting your own ignorance onto me and whomever else “these people” are.

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    I said you think, and you do. Anyone who advocates allowing young people to let AI do their schoolwork for them thinks that way. All your arguments point to letting people do such, therefore that’s what you want and what you think. I am an adult who actually paid attention in school and I can read context of conversations… You’re not getting anything past me.

    Now go do your homework, lazy fucking brat.

    VikingHippie ,

    First of all, I never once advocated for AI to do homework for people. On the contrary.

    Second of all, even if I had, you don’t have the amazing mind reading powers you seem to ascribe to yourself.

    I’m an adult who actually paid attention in school too. Guess the difference is that I didn’t STOP paying attention and developing my view of our ever-changing world the moment I left school like you seem to have done.

    VikingHippie ,

    I think students ONLY demonstrating their knowledge in class and being forced to do work that would be better accomplished elsewhere is primitive, yes.

    I think school should take advantage of modern technology such as computers and the internet without letting doing the pseudo-plagiarism of having GPT do everything. Enforcement of the latter doesn’t necessitate going back to how things were done in the 80s and earlier.

    protist ,

    You said “Schools should use technology; students shouldn’t use ChatGPT,” but this is devoid of actual ideas on how to address what we’re talking about

    VikingHippie ,

    If absolutely necessary, you could install software that detects and blocks ChatGPT. It’s probably already available. You don’t have to go back to the stone age every time a new technology poses potential problems.

    protist ,

    Writing an essay in class without using the Internet is not “going back to the stone age,” it’s a basic application of learning…

    VikingHippie ,

    Ever hear of hyperbolic expressions? I was using one of those.

    Basic isn’t always best, especially when “back to basics” is outdated and impractical methods that unnecessarily favor some students over others by rejecting valuable tools and methods that will be crucial for life after school.

    protist ,

    We’re talking about doing an assignment in class

    VikingHippie ,

    First of all, we were talking about homework. By definition you don’t waste instruction time doing that in class. Second, you were insisting on it being handwritten as if it’s the 80s or earlier.

    Just give it a rest with the reactionary backwards reform ideas, grandpa.

    protist ,

    If a teacher needs to evaluate a student’s level of comprehension, they have students demonstrate their level of comprehension in class, I just don’t get what you think is a “reactionary backwards reform(?) idea.” Homework itself is largely an outdated and “primitive” teaching method that has shown to be counterproductive to student well-being and learning when applied indiscriminately. I never said anything about hand writing, the word “to write” means “to set down in writing.” Of course students could and should type their work lol

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    You sound like a lazy spoiled brat who just wants to get out of doing homework and play video games all day.

    pankuleczkapl ,
    @pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Homework requiring writing some shit down from Wikipedia is useless homework anyways - and here this seems to be the case.

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    They’re trying to make sure you actually read the material. 🤦

    pankuleczkapl ,
    @pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    But why would you? You should be able to use any sources you want to learn whenever you want, just be prepared for the exam. I wrote hundreds useless homeworks like this in middle school and I remember nothing from most of them.

    pinkdrunkenelephants , (edited )

    Because participating in life means you have to know things, not Google.

    If you won’t, we’ll just use Google and save money by not even hiring you. If you can do it with an AI, so can we, so we don’t need you. It’s as simple as that.

    Stop being lazy and pay attention in class.

    BigNote ,

    You won’t be prepared for the exam unless you actually do the work ahead of time. That may not be immediately true in middle school, but it’s definitely true by the time you get to upper division undergrad coursework, at least if you’re in a competitive program. You really are only selling yourself short in terms of being competitive at the next level.

    This is even more true in grad school where you are expected to produce twice as much in half the time.

    VikingHippie ,

    Never said anything of the sort. That’s your own uncreative view of the world refusing to see any alternative to how things were done back when they didn’t have the technology we have today.

    BigNote ,

    Ok, so hand copy all your assignments from ChatGPT all semester and I, the instructor, will count them as 50 percent of your final grade. The other 50 percent is based on a hand-written final essay written in class. How do you think you will do?

    I am old so all of my formal university education was completed decades ago, but people cheated back then too and in my experience it’s usually way more effort than it’s worth as opposed to just doing the work and coming out with the skills you’ll need to be successful at the next level.

    That’s my dreary little bit of moralizing for the day.

    VikingHippie ,

    Sounds like a disability act lawsuit waiting to happen tbh. Some of us have very poor fine motor skills or worse and would be severely disadvantaged by having to do even short hand written assignments…

    u202307011927 ,
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    What the actual …

    Kolrami ,

    If someone actually had a disability, they wouldn’t have to do it or would be given other accommodations. That’s basically how it was for thousands of years before people had word processors.

    VikingHippie ,

    Yeah, except many schools don’t have the tools to properly do such accommodation, meaning that the students with disabilities are inevitably left behind.

    Especially the ones like me with hard to detect disabilities such as ADHD who would have to fight tooth and nail to get their disability acknowledged in the first place and then to convince them of the fact that ADHD, while being mainly mental, DOES significantly impair fine motor skills used for hand writing.

    moosetwin ,

    Lemmy accidentally deleted my comment right before I was going to post it, I had to rewrite it.

    I’ve fought for years to get accommodations that I was legally obligated to, (504 Plan) fought with a school, (they were actively refusing to give accommodations, illegally) for 3 years, before giving up and switching schools.

    The next couple of schools I tried were not well equipped to provide accommodations, albeit not malicious, (in one case not telling anyone until two months in)

    Even after I finally got what I was legally owed, I still had to put up with often writing assignments by hand, (I have fine motor coordination disorder, as the commenter above mentioned), including an entire test. (One of the end of year ones for my sophomore year)

    I also have CAPD, which allowed me to skip taking Spanish class, after two years of fighting for it. (I failed the first year of Spanish for obvious reasons, I had to retake it the next year.) (This was at the first school, I don’t know why I was able to get this accommodation but not the others, I was in middle school)

    HenriVolney ,

    Fun fact, fine motor skills are taught differently in different countries. In some countries, children spend a considerable time improving their writing skills and even the less gifted reach a reasonable level. Of course, I am not talking about children with central nervous system or physical disabilities.

    Also, spending so much time on fine motor skills reduces their ability to work in other, somewhat more relevant skills.

    VikingHippie ,

    I’m not talking about students who haven’t done their cursive exercises, I’m talking about students with disabilities making hand writing inherently much more difficult than for other students, especially the ones who’d have to fight tooth and nail to prove it because their handicap is generally thought to be “only mental” in spite of being more complex, like ADHD.

    ylai ,

    Germany traditionally is quite shocking in their practice of segregating children with disabilities into special Förderschulen. Whereas the U.S. has the Individual’s with Disabilities Education Act since the 1970s, Germany was basically forced into integration recently after the country signed the U.N. Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities in 2009. And even then, they are taking their sweet time to integrate. See e.g. aktion-mensch.de/…/inklusionsquoten-in-deutschlan… as how currently, slightly less than half of German students with disabilities go to a regular school (the Inklusionsanteil).

    BigNote ,

    They would almost certainly make accommodations. I saw many such examples throughout my years of schooling.

    Blastasaurus ,

    Could one not just copy a chat got essay by hand?

    WiildFiire ,

    Can’t jack off, play league, and write your homework with just two hands

    SnipingNinja ,

    This is why the first popular body mod will be more hands (also you can then designate hands for clean and “dirty” work)

    Plswrk ,

    As soon as we get interchangeable genitals no one will give a fuck about the gender wars anymore haha. Like come on, can’t tell me you wouldn’t try a vagina on, even the most bigoted bastards must think about it.

    SnipingNinja ,

    For sure. I just suddenly got too many thoughts on this…

    Some people might take the “my hand is my gf” meme too far

    There will be people with both genitals, no genitals, entirely new types of genitals (I thought of one, a penis which acts like a sleeve vagina)

    If we can remove the need for excretion or release it as particulates from our feet, some might replace their butthole with a vagina

    (My mind really decided to overthink this)

    electrogamerman ,

    That would actually help to learn the subject

    DavidGA ,
    @DavidGA@lemmy.world avatar

    Who will explain the concept of a plotter to you?

    Jay ,

    You?

    DavidGA ,
    @DavidGA@lemmy.world avatar

    Plotters are awesome.

    Like a printer, but with pens.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plotter

    Jay ,

    Thanks, I’ve never dealt with that before. But from what I’ve read, a regular printer would still make more sense for such a task.

    Oszilloraptor ,

    Benefits of a plotter in this case:

    • easier to align with the existing lines on the paper
    • the ink doesn’t look printed (depending on the pen; I would use a blue ball-pen to make text look more authentic)
    • there are pressure-marks left on the paper, you wouldn’t have these on regular printers
    Jay ,

    And as I found out in this thread, you can also adjust the handwriting. That’s cool. But in the picture, the writing looks so artificial that the person could have used a normal printer.

    Oszilloraptor ,

    You can plot anything.

    I use it mostly to print drawings onto birthday cards.

    (btw, I totally agree that OPs results are far from look handwritten; just wanted to stand in for some benefits of plotting in general. If I would try what op does I guess I would try things very differently)

    Scrof ,

    Or knives! Or inkjets! There are all kinds of bastards, I used to work with the knife variety (huge Roland thingamabobs) and also sell them.

    captainlezbian ,

    Wait shit I just use one as a printer for bigass drawings. I didn’t realize it used a pen

    amminadabz ,

    Most modern “plotters” are just bigass printers. The word used to only mean pen-based vector-drawing machines, but the overlapping use in architechture and engineering meant that as cheap inkjets supplanted the pen plotters they co-opted the name.

    starman ,
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    Theoretically it could be 3D printer but used like a plotter here.

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