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nyoooom , in Doppelganger

An uncanny resemblance.

simple , in HUP!
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This reminded me of the time during Covid where the UK covid information for patients was stored in Excel.

Didn’t turn out well for them

www.bbc.com/news/technology-54423988

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

You would be honestly very uncomfortable if you knew how much sensitive information is stored on the desktop of someone as an excel spreadsheet.

manny_stillwagon ,

I used to work for municipal government in a major American city. The database for the entire city downloaded query results to your desktop formatted as Excel 95. Still does.

At one point I had to install special R packages because someone retired and I was tasked with taking over the worksheet they had been maintaining forever and the usual R packages to read data from Excel can’t parse Excel 5.0.

There was also someone in the office who still used a typewriter on the regular.

Infynis ,
@Infynis@midwest.social avatar

This sounds exactly like Hell in Good Omens

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

You and I live similar lives in different places.

There are people in my office that print out their emails to read at their desk, right in front of their computer.

Collaborative document editing has been around for over a decade, and yet we’re still emailing each other different versions of docs.

manny_stillwagon ,

Yup, I had someone print off Excel sheets, manually highlight and write in corrections, and them bring the pages over to my desk to have me fix them in the file.

I also once had the city reject a report I submitted because the width of the columns in the Excel file were different from the previous year and they wanted to print it all off on one page.

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Pure hell

thebuoyancyofcitrus ,

Some number of years ago, I was an intern within a department of state government. I was tasked with helping to enrich their databases. So they sent over an Excel file. I did my thing and added new columns, then I had to send it back over to someone within each division so they could do the data entry. To my horror, when I went to visit one of the division heads, I saw their admin sitting at a computer with a printout of my changes sitting on a document holder next to the screen…manually typing geographic coordinates into a data entry form.

xpinchx ,

True, I work in ecomm and we definitely have database exports being passed around relatively freely. No passwords obviously, but segmentation data, emails, addresses, phone numbers, etc.

We have good IT security but it still doesn’t feel great.

Darkard , in HUP!

Go lookup COBOL. That’s the real crab in this meme.

SpaceNoodle ,

You misspelled FoxPro

lowleveldata ,

Sorry bro but the real crab is always the compilers

RippleEffect ,

Work in industry, can confirm.

GitProphet ,

Thank you for your service

bdonvr ,

RPG too

To find experienced RPG devs you basically need to recruit in retirement homes

But these ancient IBM systems are still used very widely - for example as the financial backend of huge banks.

flat ,
@flat@reddthat.com avatar

my dad recently learned cobol at his work, he says almost all developers are above 50. really old language haha

joneskind , in Doppelganger
@joneskind@lemmy.world avatar

If Mila was a Oompa Loompa

sounddrill , in That's unfortunate

Some of my collegemates know 6 languages(India)

LiaWong ,

South and Southeast Asians really put all their xp into languages

sounddrill ,

They will speak hindi, their native and 3 neighboring states’ languages fluently and then complain about north Indian hindi oppression

(which is definitely a thing but I have my own different views on it not expressed in this comment or comparison)

KSPAtlas ,
@KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

India is basically a language generator

sounddrill ,

Haha

nerdschleife , in HUP!

2013-2016 excel is GOATed tbh. Usable and without the cloud bullshit Microsoft tried to push in the coming years

(Yes, I still wish this wasn’t the industry standard office suite)

MissJinx ,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve worked for a company that used google instead of microsoft, man… that was hard. It’s not standard for nothing, it’s a lot better.

ManosTheHandsOfFate ,
@ManosTheHandsOfFate@lemmy.world avatar

My company used Google for a few years. Higher level Excel users hated Sheets and didn’t give up Excel. But for the rest of us riffraff Sheets was great. The collaboration features work really well, better than Office 360.

xpinchx ,

I’m one of the Excel guys, I live by tables, PowerQuery, VBA/UDFs, and loading data from APIs and SQL databases. If any of that functionality lives in Sheets I’ve never been able to figure it out productively.

My last contract used Sheets and I felt like a toddler, it’s too different for my tastes.

WarmSoda , in Fuck Reddit

Yawn

Dirk ,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

“Reddit bad, now give upvotes”

jabib ,

This.

/s

NewEnglandRedshirt , in Home sweet home
@NewEnglandRedshirt@lemmy.world avatar

Shitbreak won’t have a problem shitting at school anymore. Slipped a little something into his Moccachino.

erasebegin , in Spread the Load! Join other Instances!

I joined another instance and it closed within 2-3 weeks…

erasebegin ,

This seems to be a serious downside to this system. Anyone who values a persistent profile is putting their precious data in the hands of some random instance that may or may not go bust in the near or (perhaps worse) distant future.

I’m on lemmy.world because it’s the most likely to survive

madcaesar ,

I hope you’re donating

KSPAtlas ,
@KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

sopuli.xyz has been around for years so it should survive

elfahor ,

Why would one need a persistent profile though? This isn’t Mastodon, here accounts are throwaway, just like on Reddit

Newchair ,

i think this is bring worked on, but in the meantime, you can still transfer subscribed communities with lemmy migrate

Leer10 ,

I’d love there to be a Trust on first use signed user record and a DHT of associated servers that would allow profile references to point to the most recently made user profile with the same key as the oldest one.

Newchair ,

Yeah that would be ideal. That way if one instance is temporarily down you could still use your account.

ALostInquirer ,

This seems to be a serious downside to this system. Anyone who values a persistent profile is putting their precious data in the hands of some random instance that may or may not go bust in the near or (perhaps worse) distant future.

Isn’t this the downside to any system reliant on remote operators?

For any truly valuable data, the solutions remain the same, keep local copies, create backups, and store some backups offsite. As-is it seems like perhaps too many people rely strictly on offsite solutions as their singular data store, which is as bad practice as only having local backups, tbh.

Spliffman1 ,
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Meanwhile many people left Reddit and deleted all their history, years of it

antik ,
@antik@lemmy.world avatar

You bet, LW ain’t going anywhere.

mrmanager ,
@mrmanager@lemmy.today avatar

I’m never closing mine as long as it has active users. Please come if it’s a good location for you - western USA. Performance and uptime is really good but you will have some network latency if you are on the other side of the world.

antik ,
@antik@lemmy.world avatar

Mr manager 🫡

mrmanager ,
@mrmanager@lemmy.today avatar

:) Haha, I have had so many bad experiences with shitty managers so it’s kind of a joke alias.

radioactiveradio , in Spread the Load! Join other Instances!

Spread the Load!

That’s what she said.

Regards, RadioactiveRadio

Gestrid , in That's unfortunate

Many Americans actually are bilingual or are studying another language to become bilingual.

MrSqueezles ,

But Americans be like duhhhhh hahaha stereotypes

Awoo ,

Some perspective is worthwhile here. It’s 21% of americans vs 65% of Europeans.

Gestrid ,

True, but, for most Americans, the “need” to become bilingual simply wasn’t a thing until recently. (It became a thing mainly because US Spanish-speaking communities are slowly moving northward from where they began in the southernmost states.)

In Europe, it’s much easier to run into someone who speaks a different language than you simply by driving to another town.

For the most part, the only two languages Americans have to worry about learning if they want to communicate with neighboring countries is French (because of Canada, although they also speak English) and Spanish (because of the countries to the US’s south, including Mexico and others).

Lucidlethargy ,

Bingo. This is exactly it.

Americans almost never even hear other languages, let alone need to understand them. There’s has been a culture here for over a century for immigrants to integrate and learn the language and culture of America as a replacement for their own. Three generations ago my relatives did this - they literally abandoned their last name in the process.

Frank ,
@Frank@hexbear.net avatar

the only two languages Americans have to worry about learning if they want to communicate with neighboring countries is French

Why would anyone want to communicate with the Quebecois?

merfolk , in I have seen the light!
@merfolk@lemmy.world avatar

Was using infinity on Reddit and was waiting for a good fork for lemmy. Really feels like home now.

GravelPieceOfSword OP ,

Same. Liftoff was/is a great backup though!

radioactiveradio , in Wait hol'up

“We can make a religion out of this” Bill Wurtz

WarmSoda , in Choose wisely

Oh look it’s this tired meme that was just posted 15 minutes earlier

mypasswordis1234 OP ,
@mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, it is.

cordlesslamp , (edited ) in Posting my favorite memes

Games (mostly MMO) feel like chores to me now, sometimes it even like a second job. Grinding the same endless tasks for hours, go there, do this, kill that.

x4740N ,
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This is why I play mostly single player and games that have private servers that you can self host

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