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HubertManne , in 5:57 am and dreading the possible inevitabilities

your definition of late night coincides with what I consider early morning.

Sc00ter ,

I think it was sent late night, and the implication is that they will be waking up soon to see it

HubertManne ,

oh. that makes more sense now.

baggachipz , in 20534 memes are taking up space

That kind of shit is why I finally switched to iOS. Android’s App Store has a huge seedy ghetto.

yonder ,

That’s the beauty of android. The Google Play store is trash so use something like f-droid instead.

baggachipz ,

I just got so tired of trying to find things that don’t suck, messing with bootloaders and custom ROMs, troubleshooting device-specific problems, all of that. I’m too old for that shit now. I get people doing it, but I just said “fuck it” and got the device that mostly Just Works and pairs nicely with my mac. I know, evil blah blah, but I also think Google is worse.

yonder ,

Fair enough. And yeah, I would also rather have an iPhone for daily activities over Google Android.

papafoss , in 20534 memes are taking up space

Yall have to have some shady apps I have never had this issue. Apps starting on boot is not normal

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

Tell that to all the google apps with backdoor permissions that can’t be uninstalled.

papafoss ,

I have those apps too. I’m just saying I have never had this issue. I am not saying it’s not legit it’s just strange.

I also don’t use any social media besides lemmy so that might also play a factor. And I block A LOT of ips on my phone.

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

748mb of RAM on my phone is currently being used by random crap I didn’t ask for, like Chrome and Messenger (neither of which have been used in years), smart view, DeX, settings suggestions, gallery stories, quallcom.atfwd, visit in (none of which I’ve every actually used in any capacity AFAIK), media storage, downloads manager, game booster, game optimizing service, phone, wifi calling, contacts, contacts storage, blocked number storage, CMHProvider, Mobile Location Protocol, google services framework, and Gmail (none of which I’ve asked to run or are being used by the things I have asked to run).

These aren’t just services either, they’re fully fleged background apps with app entries and everything. And not a one was started by me.

papafoss ,

What phone you get. It’s sound like a Samsung have you seen if there is custom ROM you can run? wiki.lineageos.org/devices/

Also a lot of services like Location Protocol, google services frame, downloads manager, contacts. Are necessary for your phone to work at all. Turning them off and on when using them would destroy your battery.

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

I’m aware that I could flash a new ROM, and for security reasons that would probably be a good idea. However, I haven’t had an OS update in 4+ years and I like how everything works right now.

I can assure you that all the apps that I listed can be fully shut down without impacting stability. Contacts and Phone are probably there so receiving a call is fast, which is fine, but atfwd is only used for screen mirroring which I haven’t done in years, and DeX is for Desktop-ifying your phone, which I’ve never used and didn’t even know existed. These apps have no business being loaded all the time, even if they’re just libraries. Messenger isn’t even a system app, why is it allowed to start itself at all?

Services on the other hand, are usually much lighter and also more hidden. To even see them you need to enable dev options, and this is where things can start breaking. This is where google Play Services and some system processes are located, as well as the home screen service and keyboard service. Even here there are 2 smart home processes which I’ve never used, as well as an iris scanner I’ve never enabled.

Most of this is besides the point anyway, which is that system apps can be just as guilty of hogging resources as any poorly made app short of a miner. Even the Android OS is hella bloated, taking a full third of this flagship phone’s RAM at all times, and 6GB of storage. That’s nearly desktop sized resorces. If someone uses more common apps than I do regularly or don’t bother to disable bloatware, I’d bet this list would be much worse.

GissaMittJobb , in 20534 memes are taking up space

Apps leaking memory in Android are just going to get automatically get killed by the OOM killer, I don’t think a restart is going to address that particular concern.

ericatty ,

I have an S7 (yes I know it’s old) I still like it and it works - but - something happens about once or twice a month and it starts hanging up whenever a phone call connects and/or an app will get super laggy.

Anyway, reboot fixes it (so far) and nothing else I’ve tried does.

There’s definitely something with these older phones that is like a slow leak and the simple, easy, lasts for weeks fix is to just take 2 minutes for a full “turn it off and back on again”

Plus the overheating when something gets stuck doing a background thing. Reboot reboot.

I plan to use this phone until it dies, reboot stops fixing things, or needed apps are no longer working/supported.

Slack no longer works/supported, but that one I’m just like “oh, noooo” However I expect ones I actually need to start falling off and I’ll be lucky to get a couple more years of use.

My meandering point, some of us are still using Android phones where reboot helps a lot

GissaMittJobb ,

It’s definitely not out of the question that a reboot helps, but an app-level memory leak is highly unlikely to be the culprit.

thewowwedeserve ,

Especially since Most Android Apps are written in memory Safe languages Like Java or kotlin. It is most likely Apps getting stuck doing a Background process indefinitely

GissaMittJobb ,

It’s not out of the question to have ‘memory leaks’ - apps accumulating more memory by keeping around references to more and more objects - but memory leaks in the stricter sense of not deallocating objects that you no longer have references to is less likely. Regardless, the OOM killer will come for your app, no matter how good you’ve been about managing your memory, as long as someone else wants to have the memory and you’re the one who has been active the least recently.

NutWrench , in Yea feel me?
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Burma Shave.

FrostyTrichs , in 5:57 am and dreading the possible inevitabilities
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In before we find out OP is from Alabama and it turns out the wife and aunt are the same person.

pingveno ,

The Hapsburgs, a Spanish noble house that held the Spanish throne, made a practice of the inverse of this with uncle-niece marriages to keep power in the house. This was the closest marriage the church would allow. The generations of inbreeding produced the distinct “Hapsburg jaw”. Eventually that led to the poor, ugly, absurdly inbred Charles II of Spain. And remember, those portraits are official portraits that paint him in the best possible light. He died without an heir, ending the Hapsburg monarchy.

flop_leash_973 ,

It has always been kind of funny to me that the painters of these official portraits had to at some point get directions along the lines of “I want it to be flattering but clearly me” for some of the portraits they had to do of what had to be pretty bridge troll ugly looking people.

Talk about going home that night after getting the assignment, having a stiff drink, and wondering how the hell you are going to get out of this one.

dactylotheca ,
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Family tree’s a straight line

Taleya , (edited ) in 20534 memes are taking up space

I still have app killer no matter how many times google whines it’s no longer supported

uservoid1 , in 5:57 am and dreading the possible inevitabilities

…and then you get a sexy reply

LavenderDay3544 ,

The good ending…

gravitas_deficiency ,

Is it though…?

Tronn4 ,

Yes

gravitas_deficiency ,

🤨

You from Alabama?

Tronn4 ,

😅

SplashJackson , in So much for Blockchain's real life use cases

What about all the games where you can shoot people? Why is that okay for kids, but a little tit here and there will destroy their view of the world?

Didn’t these things get their starts by sucking on tits? So why hide them now?

todd_bonzalez ,

I love it when people define porn as “just some titties”, and ignore all the violent hardcore shit that’s defining a generation of men who don’t understand sex or women.

luciferofastora ,

Let’s pair it with proper sex ed. Destigmatise sex work, break the taboos, but also teach people what is and isn’t okay or healthy, how arousal works for different sexes and why their dick isn’t God’s gift to womankind.

Socsa ,

And you think the solution to that is to force me to use a government porn tracking service?

How about you be responsible for your kids, and I’ll be responsible for mine. I do not care what your kids do on the internet.

Firipu ,
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Until your daughter comes home with a boyfriend with a fucked up sense of what sex is and ruins her day/week/month/year/life.

I’m certainly not pro government tracking anything I do, let alone porn watching, but if I see how my own kids get exposed to it through friends. No matter how much I try to educate them, friends still show them absolute vile stuff…

Socsa , (edited )

Well the idea is to raise my kids not to be sexually repressed so they don’t latch on to the first thing which shows them the smallest modicum of sexual attention.

They are free to make their own mistakes. Hopefully they learn from them. If they don’t then it is what it is. I’m not here to dismantle the western framework of individual liberty for the misguided idea that it will prevent kids from having bad sex.

daniskarma ,

There is this famous spanish porn actor. Nacho vidal, who says that we would have a better world is kids would play around with plastic dildos instead of plastic guns.

I don’t know the playing with plastic dildos, but it is true how wild is the normalization of giving kids a replica of a human killing instrument to play with.

AVincentInSpace ,

well you can’t have fun running around all summer squirting water at your friends from a dildo

at least, not without getting some truly vile looks from passersby

also it’s just intrinsically fun to try to shoot each other with harmless little darts that let you know you’ve been hit but not do anything else

zalgotext ,

well you can’t have fun running around all summer squirting water at your friends from a dildo

Speak for your fucking self

Voroxpete ,

If some company made a plastic dick that squirts water, kids would be enthralled. They wouldn’t even think it was anything sexual; as far as they’re concerned they’d all just be shooting pee at each other.

EunieIsTheBus , in the evolution

Liberty sounds like the name of the very fuckable stripper in the club next street.

EunieIsTheBus , in Sharp Shooter

Wait! Along which axis of rotation?

Head to tail? Probably boring.

Back to stomach? Temporarily flying backwards sounds tight.

Wing to wing? A spinning pidgeon like a tossed rock probably looks cool.

Evil_Shrubbery , in They are among us. And they are movie buffs.

The top left guy just smiling lightly has seen this kink before.

makeasnek , (edited ) in So much for Blockchain's real life use cases
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You can downvote this because you’re mad that blockchain exists, for those who don’t know the actual real life use case: Bitcoin has been around for 15 years, it is a blockchain. It has a real life use case.

I can send money, with my android phone, from my couch, in my underwear, to anybody else on planet earth who also has a phone and a halfway reliable internet connection. The transaction is not only sent, but actually settles, in under a second with Bitcoin lightning. And I pay pennies in fees. No going to the bank, no bank holidays, no paying wire fees or making sure their bank can talk to my bank. It’s just simple and instant and it works. It doesn’t matter if they are a dissident or if their country doesn’t allow women to own bank accounts, the transaction goes through anyways. In many countries, their app can also instantly convert that BTC into the currency of their choice and deposit it to their bank account. That’s assuming they have access to stable banking infrastructure, which billions of people do not.

Bitcoin has delivered on its promise of being a currency with a capped supply (21 million coins) and transaction system consistently for 15 years without a single hack, without a single hour of downtime, without a single hiccup. It just works.

You can argue that Bitcoin isn’t better than <insert local currency and transmission system>. You can argue that there are “better” solutions. But it has a clear use case. I use it on a daily basis and it has a fifteen year trend of continued growth whether you are looking at total market cap (bigger than Sweden’s GDP), number of nodes, number of transactions, whatever.

Most everything negative you’ve heard about Bitcoin is either hyperbolic or about other crypto. FTX wasn’t Bitcoin. Crypto coins collapsing or people being rugged? Not Bitcoin. For more information, FAQs, and myth-busting, check out bitcoin.rocks

Deflaktor ,

Not even sure why I’m bothering replying to this bot, but guess misinformation should not be left alone

  • It’s not instant it takes a long time until enough confirmations have been done. It’s not even clear how many confirmations are enough.
  • It’s only instant if you use the lightning network. Lightning network is literally a traditional bank transaction mechanism on top of bitcoin. If you are arguing for using lightning transactions, what is the point of bitcoin in the first place?
  • fees are huge and will only increase in the future.
makeasnek , (edited )
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I’m not a bot, I’m just an idiot.

It’s not instant it takes a long time until enough confirmations have been done. It’s not even clear how many confirmations are enough.

You’re thinking of main chain (which takes 10 minutes for the next block), though I would take a zero-conf transaction in any situation that isn’t moving more money than a day’s labor. A single confirmation means it made it into the next block which should be plenty for 99% of situations. If you’re selling your house, maybe a wait a 2-3 blocks to be sure. Lightning is instant and uses main chain for security but does settlement/transaction data off-chain.

Lightning network is literally a traditional bank transaction mechanism on top of bitcoin.

It’s not, you don’t need a bank to use it. Banks don’t settle instantly, banks have chargebacks, banks required six forms of ID, banks can’t reach some places, banks may discriminate. Lightning is Bitcoin. You lock up BTC in a lightning channel, you can then send that BTC to anybody via lightning, and when you close your channel, you get the appropriate amount of BTC back. You can run a lightning node on a phone, a “routing” node on a raspberry pi, it’s just as decentralized and trustless as the main chain is. You can open a channel directly w the person you’re transacting with or you can forward the transaction through other channels/nodes, all trustlessly, all instantly, all automatically. Nobody ever has custody of the funds aside from you and your intended recipient. There’s no central custodian (like a bank) you have to trust.

If you are arguing for using lightning transactions, what is the point of bitcoin in the first place?

Main chain and lightning have different use cases. Use main chain for long-term storage of funds or large transactions. Use lightning for everyday spending. Main chain secures lightning transactions. Main chain is layer one, lightning is layer two, it’s possible there will be more layers, just like SMTP is built on TCP which is built on Ethernet or whatever.

fees are huge and will only increase in the future.

Main chain fees are around $1.50 for the next block, which is still cheaper than a bank wire or other equivalent payment methods in many situations. You’re right though, they are expected to increase as adoption increases, but lightning has scaled that available blockspace several orders of magnitude. Lightning fees are <1% in almost all instances and aren’t expected to increase since they are not tied directly to main chain fees and no mining is required. A lightning transaction uses about as much CPU power as sending an e-mail. A single main chain transaction can open a lightning channel. You can have billions of transactions inside a lightning channel.

Deflaktor ,

I apologize, it looked like copy pasta.

You lock up BTC in a lightning channel, you can then send that BTC to anybody via lightning,

You can not send the BTC to just about anybody. Only to people with whom you have a channel open. If you want to send to anybody you need to hop through other channels using middlemen. That sounds very similar to the function of a bank.

makeasnek , (edited )
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It’s fair, I assume a lot of people are bots too, but I like lemmy because it’s mostly not bots :).

You can not send the BTC to just about anybody. Only to people with whom you have a channel open. If you want to send to anybody you need to hop through other channels using middlemen. That sounds very similar to the function of a bank.

You are right, if you want to send directly from your wallet to another user’s wallet with no middlemen, you need to have a channel open with that user, which you totally can and will save you on fees in the long-term if you transact with that person frequently. But I don’t do this because it’s un-necessary, you can also send funds to any other person on lightning via these middlemen. The middlemen don’t have custody of the funds, they can’t block/reverse/do anything with the transaction aside from just forward it along. You can choose who those “middlemen” are, they are usually selected based on the lowest expected fee. They route data around, if they are banks, then so are other Bitcoin nodes you connect to on main chain. But we don’t think of them as banks right? They just relay data around and they’re decentralized. You are right that they share a similar function of routing payments, the difference is in how they do that and who controls what parts of that process. Banks have immense power over your funds. Lightning nodes you route a payment through have none and anybody can run one.

khorak ,

The last time I had to send 30 Euro to someone, I had to pay 5 Euro for gas fees. It used to be even worse. Your statements are bullshit, we all know what the usual use cases are (other than speculation)

AlDente ,

5 Euros seems like a pretty standard fee for a Bitcoin transfer, which is insanely cheap for large transfers. Your 30 Euro transaction is more suitable for the lightning network, which handles off-chain transactions for much lower fees. The person you were responding to was specifically talking about the lightning network.

AVincentInSpace ,

it would be nice if the price of bitcoin was stable enough that when I sent $100 to somebody it wouldn’t be a gamble whether what they actually received was double or half that

makeasnek ,
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It is. Lightning transactions confirm in under a second, you can sell those instantly via an exchange. The price is not that unstable and already more stable than many national currencies. You can guarantee that they receive the same amount of BTC.

AVincentInSpace , (edited )

I don’t care about amount of BTC, I care about amount of dollars. It may also surprise you to learn that I don’t care about countries where the currency is so unstable that a currency that can double in value in the space of a few months has it beat.

If bitcoin is going to become usable as a currency, even in niche circles, it has two problems to solve: energy use (three quarters of a megawatt hour per transaction, according to Forbes!) and conversion stability. I don’t want keeping money in my wallet to be a high risk investment.

zalgotext , (edited )

Crypto coins collapsing or people being rugged? Not Bitcoin.

Bitcoin has collapsed like three times in the last like 7 years dawg.

But it has a clear use case.

Sure, I suppose, if you count things like “destroying the environment” and “lining Nvidia’s pockets” as “use cases”.

Socsa ,

Hey, you forgot being the world’s slowest payment processor

Strawberry ,

and one of the world’s most scammer-friendly and least-anonymous

makeasnek ,
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Bitcoin has collapsed like three times in the last like 7 years dawg.

If you bought 1 BTC 15 years ago, you still have 1 BTC. It has not collapsed. The price relative to USD has collapsed a few times, but the average trend is growth. Bitcoin does not guarantee any price relative to any other currency, because it can’t, all it can guarantee is a stable supply of currency. The USD, in that time period, has lost >20% of its purchasing power as well, so the USD also “crashed”.

NoMoreLurkingToo , in 20534 memes are taking up space

You need to install Force Stop App(NO ROOT) and run it whenever your phone starts to feel sluggish. Helps a lot!

Johanno ,

Or maybe uninstall some of those shady apps.

cordlesslamp ,

is it better than Greenify?

naught ,

Modern OSes handle memory management and background tasks. Unless you have something truly malicious running, you’re just getting in your own way by force quitting apps.

qz.com/stop-closing-your-iphone-s-background-apps…

bruhduh , in Sharp Shooter
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