I barely knew Donald Trump prior to his election campaign, pre-2020. Not as a business man nor media personality. I would probably recognize the name, but I wouldn’t be familiar with anything he had done up until he ran for president the first time.
The only notable thing about him, for me, is that he was president (easily one of the worst), and he is a convicted felon. So, I think it’s pretty stupid to argue whether “convicted felon” should be in his opening lede line for Wikipedia. To me, that answer is obvious. Yes, of course it should be.
Yeah, I can’t be arsed to remember anything pre-COVID with that much detail. Unless it was something I was directly experiencing.
I’m not even a US citizen, nor do I live in the country, so I only have a passing interest in American politics. I know enough to know that I don’t really want to visit the USA, especially right now.
I’m happy staying North of the border, in Canada. However, US politics tend to bleed over to Canada, so I keep an eye on it when I can. What’s good for the US, is normally good for Canada, and the same for what’s bad. I’m just happy we haven’t gone to privatized healthcare, and in fact we’re enhancing the existing healthcare system and extending what’s covered. It’s probably one of the most important political items for me. I don’t need it, but I probably will eventually, and some of my family can directly benefit from the changes.
Wikipedia is fascinating with regards to how it handles these conflicts. I’m interested to see where it finally lands.
So, I think it’s pretty stupid to argue whether “convicted felon” should be in his opening lede line for Wikipedia.
True though that may be, I don’t think it’s surprising that this would happen, and since making the post I have been falling down a rabbit hole of finding out how Wikipedia is handling situations like this, partly through taking more than a glancing look at the talk pages for the first time ever, and it’s fascinating.
Currently my deepest point of descent is this sub-thread on the Admin board about the “consensus” boxes on top of talk pages being an undocumented and unapproved feature.
Ah, yes, Drawn Together. The perfect show for people in the early oughts who thought South Park was both too clever and not nearly crude or mean-spirited enough. I’ve seen every episode at least twice.
They could make offensive jokes without being offensive
Like the guys playing spin the bottle and going full tongue then Woldoor says yippie when it’s his turn “If you’re going to be gay about this then you can leave”
Or “white girl is racist” but it comes from being sheltered not because she’s white
look im as stoked as anyone else but that information should really be in a section explaining it in detail further down the page, for Tyson, for Simpson, and even for Trump. Say who he is and what he did that’s notable, not what the government did about it. it should say “fraudster” if anything, because that’s who he is. i don’t think labeling people vaguely as “felons” helps anything, and mostly serves to dehumanize people who have caught charges whether it was justified or not. that’s just my two cents.
“Noo this is just like them, we have to be better”
I’m not federated so I have to respond to this comment here.
It’s 2024, where did eight years of “being better” get you? Under the boot, that’s where. “Civility” in politics is such brain poison, it’s a matter of life and death, not a dinner party. I will take as much satisfaction as I want from the misfortune of my enemies, because spreading misfortune is their entire life and it’s good when they’re impeded. Fuck the big wet ex-president, I hope a titan boa squeezes 70 years of McDonald’s grease out of him like a tube of toothpaste.
That said, 34 convictions is only the first half of the punchline. The next big laugh comes in November, when red fascist beats blue fascist anyway and the big 8-year Mayan calendar at the DNC rolls over to 2016 again.
Also, not to sound self-absorbed, but when Biden loses liberals will 1000% blame the left again. I only say so because I’ve been making an effort to be more public in my predictions, on account of being right so often.
The left is expected to shut up and take blow after blow from conservatives.
But the moment I use a satisfied seal meme, not even any of the myriad of more offensive ways I could have made this meme, people jump at the defense of conservatives saying we need to be “better”.
Blowing off steam is allowed and I’ll keep doing it, thank you very much.
Yeah, it’s incredible how the ‘seethe and cope’ crew never get called out on being shit-stirrers and directly attacking liberals, but the minute you make a joke about convicted felon Donald Trump, all of a sudden cries for ‘unity’ and ‘civility’ come out of the woodwork.
Almost like they’re massive hypocrites who never gave a flying fuck about unity and use crocodile tears and both sides-ism to avoid accountability for the things they say and do.
No. Shame is powerful and under utilized by the left because we are afraid of hurting people. The right is dropping bombs on children and threatening fascism. The difference in restraint is huge and it is hurting the left more.
The right whines when it doesn’t get it way and throws legal tantrums when they have to play by the same rules as everyone else. This is just the start of the schadenfreude. The right can fucking die of collective anger for all I care.
I agree to an extent. I feel the difference is it’s popular in conservative culture to do things simply to “own the libs”, even if that behavior is self destructive. Actions primarily meant to harm others celebrated simply because they hurt others shouldn’t be condoned.
If the pursuit of a more just and equitable society results in the tears of fascists, misogynists, and/or racists, I’ll gladly bathe in them.
Nah. Derision, public shaming, and ostracism are fundamental to the maintenance of the social contract. How else can we moderate extremists? The denazification of Germany was effective because they didn't shy away from these methods.
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