As a meat eater, it’s shit like this which is why I’ve been buying more vegetarian shit. Every week there’s a new food recall. People are getting real sick and dying.
Same. Me too. When i buy meat, then it’s only organic and the best ethical treatment I can find. And also waaaaaay less in general. It just became bad in every sense of way and plant-based stuff has gotten so much better over the last 3 decades.
Only thing that pisses me off is that the food my food eats is even more expensive for no apparent reason (edit: yes ofc i know the socio-economic reasons. As a consumer i just don’t care. That’s what i meant)
Meat and dairy are heavily subsidized by the government (at least in US). Government subsidies for animal agriculture allow them to sell for cheaper because they can sell for less than what it actually costs to make.
I know. I was an animal rights activist once (in a time where “vegan” was either an insult or noone knew what it even was). Based on way too much knowledge about what we do with other beings.
And i didn’t say “it’s ethical”, but a local farm where the cows got names and live a great life (up until they stop doing so) surely beats industrialized farming ethically. I doubt you wanna argue there, except you only can live in a binary world (harm/don’t harm) . But that would be impossible as a vegan. Unless you’re one (i just assumed) because it’s fashionable or trendy or just edgy.
Btw something being “humane” doesn’t really mean anything ethical. Being sadistic shit-sticks who rape the whole planet raw until there’s nothing left is actuallly very “humane”. No other species is that horribly aweful.
Same here. I tried out blackbean burgers, plant-based hot dogs, tofu and almond milk in my last couple of grocery runs, just to see what’s up. Turns out I really like tofu as a substitute for ground beef, and the veggie dogs tasted just like all beef franks to me. And none of these things were any more expensive than meat, so that’s also a big plus.
They’re from “Morning Star Farms,” though I was careful to only say that they taste right, haha – They don’t plump up when cooked, and are prone to scorching in spots on the grill. But the flavor is spot on!
True, but meat-based hot dogs are typically fully cooked and so only need to be warmed, too… Grilling is just kind of a fun activity for me, and it adds a little snap and smoky flavor that you can’t get by boiling them. That said, grilled veggie dogs were a little different, but still pretty good!
If you can find some TVP in the shape of a steak, that stuff is also insane to me.
Like, I’m kind of not qualified to actually compare it to a steak, but my body instantly gave me that vegetarian gag reflex when I first had it, because it has that same chewiness.
And yeah, it’s really cheap. You can just have it in your cupboard for an eternity. And to prepare it, you just boil it in salt water / stock for a few minutes, press out the water and throw it into a hot pan to sear it like a steak.
The Maillard reaction does its thing and somehow this chunk of goddamn defatted soy beans does not taste healthy anymore.
Also making seitan from flour is super easy. If I could get my hands on pure gluten it would be insanely easy. Maybe not as rich in taste as soy meat, but so much cheaper than store bought meat analogues.
If you’re talking about the box, understandable. If you’re talking about actual mac and cheese, maybe you just don’t know anyone who knows how to cook.
Well, I mean, I can think of several different variations of a stovetop version (bechamel, the sodium citrate, or the condensed milk version that’s been gaining popularity), a question of whether to bake it or not, endless add-ins, choices of cheese to use, choice of pasta to use. Making a bechamel without lumps is not hard but it does require some knowledge of basic technique. And it is actually conceivable that someone would use fresh pasta, which is a whole different ballgame. So while macaroni and cheese in its most basic is not at all a difficult dish it leaves tons of room for putting a personal spin on it…which means it has plenty of ways it can go wrong, too. I’ve certainly had plenty of disappointing mac and cheese in my life, sometimes at restaurants that really should be able to do better.
Yeah? Fancy baked mac and cheese isn’t uncommon at all, sometimes dressed up with stuff like lobster and truffle oil, or sometimes as some sort of baked Wisconsin three cheese deal with crispy bread crumbs. Or it’s a staple side at BBQ restaurants, and a lot of people people will judge a place harshly on its quality. I’ve also seen a lot of fried mac and cheese wedges on pub menus (which I do not recommend, just fill your wedges with cheese instead, the extra carbs add nothing).
Go to Applebee’s and order Four-Cheese Mac & Cheese with honey pepper chicken tenders. The chicken tenders are excellent but the Mac and Cheese is the most watery garbage I’ve ever eaten. Then you will understand the true skill of making delicious Mac and Cheese.
You’d be surprised There is a definite difference between Mac and cheese from someone who can cook vs someone who can’t
Ofcourse you can mess up the basic like the milk and butter ratio and for more advanced stuff you can always have add ins like more cheese or some seasoning
Hell have you ever had Mac and cheese with some caramelized onions. Idk if I’m crazy for that but damn it’s good
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