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rockettaco37 ,
@rockettaco37@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly? Fuck rms. :D

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

He wouldn’t mind if children did …

rockettaco37 ,
@rockettaco37@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. I’m not sure why I’m getting downvoted for calling out bs.

potentiallynotfelix ,

All that to say, alpine should probably stay on servers

lemmyvore ,

You can use Alpine on a desktop fairly easily.

potentiallynotfelix ,

https://lemdro.id/pictrs/image/5411e248-1402-4248-a629-f25ea9d82ed8.png

waitmarks ,

it should probably stay in docker containers

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

As long as it stays off the Formula 1 race track!

deltapi ,

Why?

potentiallynotfelix ,

Not having GNU as a compiler isn’t always a positive, cause it can break some things, like appimages for example. If an appimage is compiled with GNU it won’t run without some translation layer or something.

Olap ,

It’s systemd+gnu+linux these days

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Firefox+Plasma+Wayland+SystemD+GNU+Linux

Olap ,

Amen brother

muhyb ,

That’s something a human would say. Totally predictable.

Olap ,

Lol, you know this is a meme community?

muhyb ,

Of course! It was a Futurama reference. :)

Olap ,

Ahh, woosh

muhyb ,

:)

Limonene ,

I suppose mine would be Proton/Steam/Mate Desktop/Gnu/Linux

areyouevenreal ,

Wayland isn’t actually a piece of software though. It’s a protocol. This isn’t like X11.

bvtthead ,

X11 is a protocol, Xorg is an implementation

areyouevenreal ,

My bad

Redjard ,
@Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Firefox+PlasmaWayland+SystemD+portage+GNU+Linux

Wilzax ,

Eventually the proper name for the operating system will just be the full configuration.nix file, and we’ll all rename our backups to "FullLegalName"OS

In this future, NixOS replaces all other distros as the defacto standard way to manage packages

dogsnest ,
@dogsnest@lemmy.world avatar

I only understand Slackware.

Will I survive?

bluewing ,

When the heat death of the universe arrives, the Sackcloth and Ashes that is Slack will be there to mark it’s passing.

Not even Debian will survive, but Slack will go on. Tar Balls Yum!

numanair ,

Assigned system configuration at birth

sukhmel ,

If only nix wasn’t such a pain to read, with all the conveniences it has like automatically looking up variables in all of the places available.

I understand the thought, but it feels like a lot of things done to simplify writing the code makes it way harder to read, and nix’s design is decades old and it really shows

Also, there are sometimes issues with nix on macos, but I’m inclined to blame it on Apple

Wilzax ,

Apple ruins everything it touches and sells the solution as a product or service

MinFapper ,

Needs more user agent:

Firefox(like Chrome)+Plasma(inc.KDE)+Wayland(like X11)+systemd+GNU/Linux

rickyrigatoni ,

+L+Ratio+You’re Bald+It’s Joever+Terrorists Win

ramble81 ,

I made the joke that we’ll have SystemD/Linux replacing GNU/Linux and the number of “well asckuallys…” that popped up was simultaneously humorous and saddening.

Olap ,

github.com/uutils/coreutils - I’m waiting for a distro to switch to this, and clang base, and then musl. But glibc compatibility still lacking usually - one day!

magikmw ,

I was just thinking there’s somebody rewriting coreutils in rustnand there it is. I’m omnipotent!

Vivendi ,

What’s the point? Move from a free license to a corporate cuck license is not something that values normal users, only if you are a corporation and you need a more permissive license for some reason

jbk ,

Plus, do rust coreutils do anything exceptionally better than GNU coreutils? If not, I don’t think many would switch

scroll_responsibly , (edited )
@scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

MIT license 🤮

Edit: GPL 🫡

secret300 ,

Soon to only be systemd

raspberriesareyummy ,

systemd

and a giant “fuck you” to Lennart Poettering for that. Not for creating an init system option - but for lobbying it into major distributions, instead of letting the users decide what they prefer. May he forever stub his toes on furniture.

deadbeef79000 ,

May he have itchy toenails.

jbk ,

It’s not just an init system. Look up what it does and why it exists, instead of blindly hating some software for some obsessive reason.

uis ,

Systemd is also horrible project because it has sd-dbus - a dbus implementation, that requires systemd. And some projects(like Anbox) when migrating from abstraction layer to direct use of dbus accidentally choosen sd-dbus instead of dbus. And devs genuenly belive that sd-dbus is not systemd-specific.

raspberriesareyummy ,

I’m not blindly hating. I despise the asshole responsible for the choice being taken away from me for many major distros and I wish him the plague for his manipulative approach in getting there.

jbk ,

The choice of making way more things than just the job of an init system harder than it has to be, especially when both flavors have to work. Feel free to call generous people who work for the community “assholes”, but it’s you who’s that, if anyone

raspberriesareyummy ,

People who lobby with decision makers at major distributions for their software to be made the de-facto standard, instead of leaving it to the userbase, have a deeply anti-democratic mindset, and that makes them assholes.

jbk ,

And what concerns did/do you exactly have? Did you as a “democratic” user make yourself loud instead of crying about “corruption” on lemmy?

MigratingtoLemmy ,

I didn’t know much about Linux when Systemd was adopted by Debian. And how would I make myself loud enough for people to notice? I still don’t have the technical knowledge to completely grasp the operating reasons why people chose it, all I know is that systemd was meant to be an init system, and now it is no longer just an init system. It’s in things it shouldn’t be in. I’m sure people worked hard on it but one program edging out general alternatives shouldn’t have been the way of development

jbk ,

You don’t know the details of why it was chosen, yet you complain about people with obviously more knowledge on these topics having chosen it… reminds me of science deniers.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

All I’m saying is that it shouldn’t have gone beyond being an init system. Is it so hard to understand that one might want one application to do one thing and do it well?

jbk ,

And what knowledge makes that opinion have any factual value?

MigratingtoLemmy ,

Your opinion is that systemd is objectively better being more than an init system?

I prefer my software to work as single units which can communicate using standard, agnostic technologies to one another, not be a gigantic binary blob which is too hard for even some of the most brilliant people in the community to understand

jbk ,

It’s not even a single binary blob. Shows your competence around this topic. Feel free to continue rambling and whatever without knowing anything about it.

MigratingtoLemmy ,

I’m pissed off because he didn’t limit it to just being an init and made it into a much bigger mess

moon ,

That’s weird as fuck. Major distros use it because it’s the most functional. If the other ones were as good, they’d be used. There is no “lobbying” lol, it just makes the most technical sense and is significantly more than just an init system. I’d rather users have a system that “just works” instead, since arbitrary choices aren’t necessarily a good thing.

Shadywack ,
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Poettering is a douchebag, a Royal fucking asshole, who happened to code a usable, performant, well coded project hosting subprojects that does a better job for the users than all their predecessors.

He’s the guy people love to hate, and he’s really damn good.

briefbeschwerer ,

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, systemd/GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, systemd plus GNU plus Linux. GNU/Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning systemd init system made useful by the systemd daemons, shell utilities and redundant system components comprising a full init system as defined by systemd itself.

Many computer users run a modified version of the systemd init system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of systemd which is widely used today is often called GNU/Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the systemd init system, developed by the Red Hat.

There really is a GNU/Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the init system they use. GNU/Linux is the os: a collection of programs that can be run by the init system. The operating system is an essential part of an init system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete init system. GNU/Linux is normally used in combination with the systemd init system: the whole system is basically systwmd with GNU/Linux added, or systemd/GNU/Linux. All the so-called GNU/Linux distributions are really distributions of systemd/GNU/Linux!

kittenzrulz123 ,

No, Richard, it’s ‘Linux’, not ‘GNU/Linux’. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS – more on this later). He named it ‘Linux’ with a little help from his friends. Why doesn’t he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff – including the software I wrote using GCC – and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don’t want to be known as a nag, do you?

(An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title ‘GNU/Linux’ (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.

Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn’t the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you’ve heard this one before. Get used to it. You’ll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it.

You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn’t more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn’t perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument.

Last, I’d like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn’t be fighting among ourselves over naming other people’s software. But what the heck, I’m in a bad mood now. I think I’m feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn’t you and everyone refer to GCC as ‘the Linux compiler’? Or at least, ‘Linux GCC’? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD?

If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this:

Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux’ huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don’t be a nag.

dogsnest ,
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    punkfungus ,

    The thing he replied to is a modified copypasta, it was made as a joke

    dogsnest ,
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    kittenzrulz123 ,

    Its a great response to the GNU/Linux copypasta :3 Of course like Linux please share it as much as possible

    Nisaea ,
    @Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Goodness gracious, breathe man ^^

    kittenzrulz123 ,

    Nuh uh :3

    gandalf_der_12te ,

    I’m stealing sharing/redistributing this:

    feddit.org/post/267802

    briefbeschwerer ,

    Sure, but know there are some spelling mistakes and some lines I didn’t really know the heck I was writing

    gandalf_der_12te ,

    no worries, it is still funny to me

    uis ,

    Hold my OpenRC.

    Scubus ,

    Just build ur own os from binary, its barely an inconveniance

    AVincentInSpace ,

    Face it, Linux is just the kernel. You use systemd as your operating system.

    nUbee ,

    It would seem that GNU/Linux or Linux (whatever the user-accessing operating system is called) is the only OS that must mention its kernel. No one calls Windows the NT operating system, nor does anyone call Mac OS the Darwin operating system. So why should Linux be the exception?

    When I think of GNU, I think of a project that had a very particular goal in mind: build an operating system that replaces Unix with entirely free software. The project got nearly all the way there, but before they got a usable kernel working, Torvalds licensed his kernel with the GPL. With the Linux kernel combined with GNU, we have an OS the GNU project set out to create. So why should Torvalds get all the credit? Without calling the OS GNU, most people don’t even know how or why it came to be.

    I could see a valid argument to just simply call the OS GNU. It was the name the original team gave the project to have a fully functional OS made with entirely free software. True, Torvalds didn’t write Linux for GNU, but neither did the X Window System. A Kernel is essential for operation though, so I can see why the name GNU/Linux was proposed.

    schnurrito ,

    “The OS” doesn’t exist. The operating systems you’re talking about are called Debian, Ubuntu, Arch, Fedora, RHEL, etc etc. The main work of making an actually usable OS from the various free software components others have written has always been done by the teams responsible for these products.

    But we still need a way to refer to them collectively, and it used to make sense to call them “Linux” because they were pretty much the only operating systems that used the Linux kernel, but now that Android is the most widely used OS on the planet, it doesn’t anymore, and this alone is a reason to say GNU/Linux unless you want to include Android.

    nUbee ,

    I understand distributions (Debian, Arch, etc.) are what users will use. But those distributions have a foundation to build off of (that’s what I’m referring to when I say OS), and that foundation most distributions use is GNU and Linux.

    GNU came first, and the final piece of the missing puzzle was Linux. Adding in Linux shouldn’t overshadow all the incredible work the GNU project took over 7 years to create.

    Android is a different issue, although it certainly puts a hole in the logic of calling the desktop OS Linux. “[Android] contains Linux, but it isn’t Linux.”

    fmstrat ,

    This is a rabbit hole. Most software packages out there use hundreds of modules with other names. Heck, I bet the client you are using would require 27 different slashes for this to make sense.

    Sometimes you put a lot of work into a foundation. Sometimes you use a foundation. Pride in one’s work does not always require recognition.

    Eufalconimorph ,

    Systemd/GNU/Linux/GTK or Systemd/GNU/Linux/QT, really…

    schnurrito ,

    GTK being a part of GNU (at least originally)

    Eufalconimorph ,

    Sure, I should have gone further.

    Systemd/GNU libc/GNU Coreutils/GNU BASH/Linux/X11//GTK/GNOME
    Systemd/GNU libc/GNU Coreutils/GNU BASH/Linux/X11/GTK/LXDE
    Systemd/GNU libc/GNU Coreutils/Zsh/Linux/X11/GTK/GNOME
    Systemd/GNU libc/GNU Coreutils/Zsh/Linux/X11/GTK/LXDE
    SysVInit/musl/Busybox/tcsh/Linux/csh
    Systemd/GNU libc/GNU Coreutils/Zsh/Linux/Wayland/QT/KDE Plasma
    Systemd/GNU libc/GNU Coreutils/Zsh/Linux/Wayland/QT/LXQT

    etc, etc.

    There are thousands of combinations of the possible layers needed to make an OS.

    schnurrito ,

    the thing is that not all of them use systemd or bash or zsh or even X11 (servers don’t usually have X11 installed)

    All of them use a Linux kernel and many components that were originally developed for GNU, especially the C library.

    Eufalconimorph ,

    Yes, I listed sysvinit for that reason. And Musl instead of glibc. GNU is optional in a Linux distro, except for the kernel’s use of a GNU license.

    Eufalconimorph ,

    Except Alpine & those based on it, which uses Linux but not GNU libc or GNU coreutils or GNU BASH… Just musl libc & Busybox. I.e. the entire subject of this thread is one of the non-GNU Linuxes.

    iopq ,

    I don’t use those, I select my own components using SystemD OS.

    Like my configuration actually has to specify whether I’m using gnome or KDE, nothing is “by default” in my distro except for SystemD

    homura1650 ,

    Because the thing people refer to when they say “linux” is not actually an operating system. It is a family of operating systems built by different groups that are built mostly the same way from mostly the same components (which, themselves are built by separate groups).

    nUbee ,

    If I’m not mistaken, you’re talking about distributions. When I write ‘operating system’, I’m referring to a collection of programs that provide a set of utility for a user, such as file manipulation, the ability to compile other programs, etc. Distributions expand on that functionality by configuring everything, providing other programs, and methods to install more. But they mostly build off a common framework, the operating system. Linux is a component of that system that provides the framework. Should it get all the credit for doing so? Personally, I don’t think so.

    bravesirrbn ,

    Maybe it just boils down to “Linux” simply sounding better when pronounced

    Just like e.g. most people just say “velcro” and not “hook-and-loop” as the company Velcro itself wants people to call it.

    nUbee ,

    And that’s a tragedy because that convenience of pronunciation comes with the cost of losing credit for the group that started the whole thing. Because only “Linux” is used, many people think Linus Torvalds developed/invented the entire operating system.

    Hook and loop being called Velcro doesn’t hurt Velcro the same way because they still have all the credit for making it. The only problem they face is losing a trademark.

    bluewing ,

    Perhaps it is a tragedy that we seem to have lost the GNU part. But in the end, the great unwashed masses get to decide what something is called.

    Personally, I blame the Brits for this, (and NOT the French this time), because of their penchant for trying to chop every multi-syllable word down into as few as possible. See: Football vs Soccer silliness.

    lemmyvore ,

    But the Linux kernel was central to the advent of FOSS operating systems. If it were up to the GNU project we’d still not have a working OS. It’s unfair to speculate because maybe the BSD family would have taken over but it’s worth mentioning that Stallman also passed up on the BSD kernel as well. So, really, the GNU userland had to be dragged into widespread success against its goals.

    Also, it’s a lot easier to replicate a basic userland than it is to get a working OS going. I think Linux would have done well even without the GNU utils but the opposite is demonstrably not true.

    josefo ,

    wow, I could read and entire book of this. It’s a new genre of erotica I think. Very high quality

    GladiusB ,
    @GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

    Do you want the pegging scenes to be implied or graphic?

    deadlock ,

    Yes.

    extremeboredom ,

    Can it be implied that they’re very graphic?

    Haaveilija ,

    No, a real linux user only needs a cli

    CrazyLikeGollum ,

    So, not graphic, just verbose.

    pegging -v

    psmgx ,

    Not verbose enough, needs the -vvv

    buttfarts ,

    I am so scared and aroused

    josefo ,

    scaroused

    brbposting ,

    Parts of 4chan’s take on the Big Bang Theory may fit the bill:

    https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/ff7fc3b2-024b-4a0c-8431-f3d902706757.webp

    sp3tr4l ,

    Ya’ll need God.

    Posting this from TempleOS

    celeste ,

    How’d you get internet working?

    sp3tr4l ,

    All things are possible through Christ lol

    psmgx ,

    All things are possible though profound autism and schizophrenia

    psmgx ,

    Triggered

    MilitantVegan ,

    The alternatives to the GNU tools are largely permissively licensed, yeah? What could possibly go wrong with that…

    nickwitha_k ,

    …People who wanted to donate their software to the public with no strings attached could see an uptick in the number of users?

    MilitantVegan ,

    The number of users being those who would rather leverage the software for free, and then resell a walled garden version with proprietary extensions.

    woelkchen ,
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    If the proprietary extensions don’t add significant value, nobody would buy it in the first place.

    nickwitha_k , (edited )

    That’s the beautiful thing about gifting software with permissive licenses (when one wants to): it’s a gift and anyone can do whatever they want with it for free.

    ETA: I DO think that it is important for one who chooses to license software permissively to be informed about their decision and its implications. But, just like consent in other areas, as long as one enters into it intentionally and with the understanding of what the license means, it’s noone’s place to judge (and, like consent in other interpersonal areas, the license can be revoked/modified at any time - with a new version). Honestly, really weird of those that take issue with individuals choosing to gift their software to humanity - there’s way more interesting and useful things to engage in in the FLOSS landscape.

    woelkchen ,
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    People making those comments don’t realize that much of the desktop Linux stack is MIT/BSD licensed anyway. It’s also not like those “permissive licenses bad” people would delete all such licensed software from their system because the result would be unusable.

    woelkchen ,
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    LLVM and Clang make massive strides over GCC thanks to its license. If it weren’t for many of the infamous “GNU’isms”, GCC would have dies years ago.

    therealjcdenton ,

    Without the mention of mansplain and womansplain this would be funny

    Luccus , (edited )

    I work in IT and sometimes I have to explain something to a user who is somewhat tech-illiterate. Even developers may have significant blind spots when it comes to their OS or networking, for example.

    So, if I notice it, I’ll change some terminology and I may explain instructions differently or use metaphors so every user understands what I’m saying.

    And most coworkers do the same thing.

    Here’s why I bring this up: For whatever reason, some colleagues give female coworkers the same treatment.

    And that’s weird.

    If someone is constantly treated like this, they should be allowed to rant about it on their blog. I’m fine with snark if it geht’s a point across.

    Mango ,

    Is it bad if I tend to do this except to everyone because I don’t generally expect people to know the same specific stuff as me?

    Luccus ,

    No. If it’s everyone, then it’s everyone and at worst it’s not the most efficient way to communicate.

    I would say, if you single out a group of people based on physical characteristics, then it gets weird.

    But if it’s “The internet won’t start” vs “Every packet on port 433 is dropped even though no firewall rule is set”, then I think it’s reasonable to make some asumptions and adjust communication accordingly.

    Mango ,

    Oh yeah definitely. With that second one, is be requesting explanation for myself!

    It’s really just that when I start to say anything about anything I’m interested in, I get a “why do you think I know anything about that?” a lot, so I shifted gears to the opposite early in life. I go explaining all the things involved with what I’m talking about before I get to the point and people think I’m tangential.

    lambda ,
    @lambda@programming.dev avatar

    I love the examples!

    Corgana ,
    @Corgana@startrek.website avatar

    hey look its the guy from the meme

    onlinepersona ,

    That’s fine. It’s proof that both exist and one is deadly.

    Anti Commercial-AI license

    boatsnhos931 ,

    Ride his face into VALHALLA!!!

    pseudo ,
    @pseudo@jlai.lu avatar

    OP I love your display name <3

    nicknonya OP ,
    @nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    i should clarify i am not the person in the screenshot lmao

    pseudo ,
    @pseudo@jlai.lu avatar

    I mean your Lemmy display name, the bear kaomoji (⬤ᴥ⬤)

    nicknonya OP ,
    @nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    oh! i forgot about that, thanks!

    udon ,

    Actually, it’s GNU/unkempt, bearded man

    user1234 ,

    I usually see it referred to as GNU/Linux. I always consider Android as Android/Linux to differentiate it from desktop.

    uis ,

    Good take. GNU project + Linux = GNU/Linux. Android project + Linux = Android/Linux.

    NaoPb ,

    And if you’re talking about all of those in general, it’s just Linux.

    mexicancartel ,

    Don’t you dare to talk about Google Spyware OS in “general” with free OSes

    NaoPb ,

    Don’t you confuse people with your open os’es by calling them free. No charge is the only real free.

    bluewing ,

    I’ve come to the conclusion that lumping in Android/ChromeOS to the broad term is a stat padding exercise. It makes the whole of Linux look like it’s the most used OS in the world. But I’m OK with if you want to do so.

    Call it GNU/Linux or Linux I don’t care. I just refer to it as whatever distro I’ve hopped to for this month. So to me, right now I’m typing this on my laptop running Fedora 40 KDE and my mini-desktop is running Fedora 40 Atomic Budgie.

    NaoPb ,

    I’m just running Linux. Or for the Linux people it’s KDE Plasma. Or Ubuntu with LXDE. Or degoogled Android. Or whatever, these are examples.

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    Ok, but what if there isn’t any GNU? Musl/Linux?

    user1234 ,

    Then you call it Musl/Linux.

    uis ,

    Musl isn’t entire userland

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    So I guess musl/busybox/Linux?

    uis ,

    Is it OpenWRT?

    7uWqKj ,

    Yeah nice but why are you people so obsessed with men explaining things to women or vice-versa?

    avidamoeba ,
    @avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

    What do you mean “you people”?

    RootBeerGuy ,
    @RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    What do you mean, you people?

    sukhmel ,

    What do you mean, “you people”?

    Mango ,

    Probably the crowd that uses the term ‘mansplain’.

    nicknonya OP ,
    @nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    mansplaining, noun:

    Mansplaining (a blend word of man and the informal form splaining of the gerund explaining) is a pejorative term meaning “(for a man) to comment on or explain something, to a woman, in a condescending, overconfident, and often inaccurate or oversimplified manner”

    Empricorn ,

    Thank you. As a sentient cleaning robot running GLaDOS, I needed context.

    Tobberone ,

    So stereotyping gender is back on the menu? Are hair color jokes still taboo?

    EpeeGnome ,

    It’s not meant to be a stereotype applied to all men, just the a thing that some men do. It happens when a man assumes, perhaps subconsciously, that the woman he is speaking to is his intellectual inferior and would surely benefit from his opinion on whatever topic without any regard to her possible expertise on the topic, or even his own lack thereof. I’ve rarely witnessed it myself, but know women who have had to put up with it. Stereotypeing all men as “manslainers” would be rude, but mocking the men who actually behave that way is cool with me.

    Tobberone ,

    Even the term itself is a generalising stereotype. But it we are to have a somewhat serious discussion about it, I’d say It’s a human condition, not a gendered condition. For example, given what is (not) known about our respective genders, you felt the need to explain this.

    lone_faerie ,

    Men try not to be mad they’re the butt of a joke challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

    Tobberone ,

    So “it was only a joke” is also back on the menu? Wow, times are rolling back fast!

    Empricorn ,

    Who’s obsessed? It’s a joke about a dude attempting to man-splain even when they’re wrong (I’m a dude and I’ve definitely seen it) and her turning the tables on him. That’s it. To get defensive about that is… weird.

    ricdeh ,
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    More like the author is so insecure herself that she feels forced to use these terms in the belief that they somehow strengthen her position.

    Empricorn ,

    Yep, this is more of the weird defensive attitude. Thanks for another example.

    raspberriesareyummy ,

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    someacnt_ ,

    No, that’s me.

    turbowafflz ,

    Or… Just maybe… It’s a joke and it’s just trying to be an even more absurd take on the original gnu+linux copypasta

    7uWqKj ,

    Quite right. The joke works even without the „woman good/man bad“ subtext.

    Siegfried ,

    Transplaining is cool though

    chunkystyles ,

    Is that anything like transpiling?

    Wanderer ,

    Victim mentality. Most of the times this people act like this with everyone. Some women just go around looking for shit to fit their narrative.

    poopsmith ,
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    I don’t think anybody is obsessed with it. It’s a problematic behavior in many men, enough so that it’s become a meme, particularly in the US.

    7uWqKj ,

    Or so you are made believe. How many times have you experienced it?

    poopsmith ,
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    What are you talking about? I’ve witnessed it several times now at work, especially regarding programming or EE. Have you not yet suffered through a programmer condescendingly explain trivial matters to others, especially to women?

    The post is obviously a hyperbole but it’s not too far off from reality.

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