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linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Doesn’t really matter what your developers run on, you need your QA to be running on trash hardware.

We can even cut out the middleman and optimize unity and unreal to run on crap

meliaesc ,

Jokes on you, my corporate job has crippled the Mac they gave us so much that EVERYONE has trash hardware!

Holzkohlen ,

You have my vote.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

We need more shorter games, made by happier devs paid more to work fewer hours, with worse graphics.

lord_admiral OP ,
@lord_admiral@lemmy.world avatar

I need a glass of whiskey.

SnipingNinja ,

Don’t we all, though I’m not opposed to any good liquor

Aux ,

Steam is full of shorter games with worse graphics made by indy devs. Guess what? No one gives a shit! Because no one needs crappy games from 1980-s.

dh34d ,

The indie boomer shooter scene is exploding, actually

Aux ,

This is data from 2020 statista.com/…/steam-indie-game-revenue-genre/ but I believe it’s still pretty relevant.

In short, indie games are the games no one is playing. A tiny fraction of indies bring more than $200k, while AA and AAA bring in millions and hundreds of millions.

The idea that we need shitty games with piss poor graphics is just plain wrong. What we need are high res games to enjoy 4K experiences.

yistdaj ,

I think this is a false dichotomy and an over-simplistic view of the game industry. Remember, there are far more indie games than AAA, so of course they’re going to earn less, there are more to choose from. Plus, if an indie game does too well, it often stops being indie. Most of the money for AAA games is from the same few people paying thousands of dollars in many small purchases too.

Anecdotally, most people’s favourite games are, or at least started off as indie games. However, most people’s least favourite are going to be indie as well. I think the thing with indie games is that they vary a lot, often exploring things that many publishers simply aren’t willing to. This allows them to find and fill a niche perfectly that a publisher can never fill. The main thing is that people see this and start making their own indie games, leading to market saturation pretty quickly.

Plus, the vast majority of people still don’t have 4K monitors. It may be the future, but you seem to think that’s where we are now when we just aren’t.

Aux ,

The topic is about low end indie games specifically. Thus games, which started as indie, like Valheim or No Man’s Sky don’t fit the bill. The point is that no one gives a shit about low end games apart from a few niche fans. Everyone likes high end looking games with loads of stuff to do in them.

yistdaj ,

I quite like many games with “poor” graphics. Perhaps not exclusively, but you’re seriously missing out if you only go for realistic-looking or detailed games. Give a few of those indie games a try, you might be surprised.

Edit: Oh, and terminal games are cool! Usually not very performant though.

Aux ,

Nah, sorry, I’m not playing pixelated crap on my dual screen 4K set up. That was cool back in the 1990-s on my Sega Mega Drive, but I outgrew that a long time ago. Fuck, I’m old…

menemen , (edited )
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Some of them are really succesful. Many people care. Others don’t.

Here the current Steam charts. Many indie games, some few with really low specs. Banana only needs 30MB RAM. Seems to be a great game. Hostly now, why are 50k people playing that “game” currently?

But back on topic: Yes, AAA games are more succesfull and earn much more money, but claiming “no one cares about indie” is stupid, when so many people play games like Rust, Stardew Valley, Prison Architect, Terraria, RimWorld, Valheim, The Forest, …

Aux ,

Games like Valheim and Rust are not some pixel art games which will run on a 2GB system with an integrated GPU, they’re pretty much AA games with an AA level publisher behind them. Yes, there are some real exceptions, like Stardew Valley, but you can count them on your fingers. They don’t make even a 1% of Steam catalogue. Thus my point still stands - no one cares about low end games.

Timecircleline ,

Even if they don’t make up 1% of Steam’s catalogue (though I doubt that figure), they have had real impact.

It’s ok to not like them personally, but to say no one cares is disingenuous. Balatro doesn’t require much in terms of hardware but is having a real moment right now. Stardew Valley has been killing it for 8 years. People have thousands of hours in Rimworld.

Indie games are also great for community and modders.

Aux ,

Sorry, but no.

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

The thing is that developers tend to keep things as simple as possible and overly optimize stuff, when you find bloatware is usually some manager that decided to have it.

lord_admiral OP ,
@lord_admiral@lemmy.world avatar

The thing is

Of course, we developers like to optimize and patch source code all the time. If I am suddenly woken up at three in the morning, I will immediately open the lid of my laptop and start optimizing the code. That’s our little developer secret.

herrvogel ,

It’s the marketing. Always the marketing. Especially the SEO guys.

One SEO guy we worked with told us not to cache our websites because he was convinced that it helped. He badgered us about it for weeks, showed us some bullshit graphs and whatever. One day we got fed up and told him we’d disabled the cache and he should keep an eye out for any improvements in traffic. Obviously we didn’t actually do anything of the sort because we are not fucking idiots. Couple days later the SEO wizard sent us another bunch of figures and said “see, I told you it would help I know my stuff”. He did not, in fact, know his stuff.

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Couple days later the SEO wizard sent us another bunch of figures and said “see, I told you it would help I know my stuff”. He did not, in fact, know his stuff.

Ahaha no way.

rustydrd ,
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

I think I already posted this at some point, but Software Disenchantment is always worth mentioning in this context.

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I like how KDE has been getting faster and faster as time went on. Like Lisa Simpson’s perpetuum mobile.

WolfLink ,

The ideal is “plays fine at lowest graphics settings on old hardware” while having “high graphics settings” that look fantastic but requires too-of-the-line hardware to play reasonably.

Generally this is almost impossible to achieve.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

So you’re saying there IS a chance…

mryessir ,

How goes the saying? 32 MB of RAM and always swapping?

flauschke ,

I’ve heard Emacs as eight mb and constantly swapping (I use Emacs BTW)

mryessir ,

Your awesome for correcting me (I use vim BTW)

Plus emacs and lisp are superior. But I didn’t managed to jump ships.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

If I can’t type the program into my TRS-80 from a computer magazine I don’t trust it.

lauha ,

I was going to laught at the hypocricy of you using lemmy, definitely not using your TRS-80 but I don’t trust my phone, the lemmy app or lemmy server either.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

We just need to write a version of Lemmy that runs in basic on a TRS-80 and publish a magazine

RaccoonBall ,

Trash 80 dialing in to a Linux shell account using one of the various cli lemmy clients should work

outerspace ,

Better to run a whole generation , so like 30 years so people would start planning the upgrades ahead for when everyone is ready

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I knew someone that refused to upgrade the programmer’s workstation precisely because it would have been a big leap in performance compared to what their costumers used the software on. Needless to say the program was very fast even on weaker hardware.

gandalf_der_12te ,

That someone is me.

bruhduh , (edited )
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

i played Skyrim on i3 4005u with integrated graphics and 4gb ram when i was high schooler, they did epic in 7th console generation as limitations was 512mb shared memory and 250gflops gpu

lord_admiral OP ,
@lord_admiral@lemmy.world avatar

You’re a heretic.

hperrin ,

I wrote an email service called Port87, and I did it on a really low end laptop (an Ideapad 3 from 2021) to make sure that it works well, even on a potato.

joe_cool ,

If an Ideapad 3 is a potato now what’s an EeePC?

StaySquared ,

lol.

Sleepyforestwizard ,

Antix made my old Chromebook’s usable. Old tech is fun.

uis ,

It’s not that hardware isn’t capable, it’s just manufacturer isn’t willing. Or rather willing to not.

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Antix is the last one standing on the support of old hardware, also gentoo Debian and tumbleweed is good ones since they support WIDE range of architectures

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