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neo , in Is Crossover any good? Better than Lutris or PlayOnLinux?
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On linux, for gaming? Not any better than Proton.

On Mac? I have no personal experience but I believe it’s good there.

Spectacle8011 ,
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I’ve only used CrossOver on Linux and actually find it harder to use than Lutris. There’s some crazy stuff like needing to declare environment variables inside a configuration file instead of having a GUI for it. But if you look at CodeWeavers’ blog and release notes, you’ll see them constantly making changes to improve gaming on macOS. That’s where they seem to be devoting most of their energy these days. CrossOver on Linux worked for Microsoft Office when I needed to use it, but that was the only reason I bought it.

I still think it was a worthwhile purchase, if only to support further Wine development. CodeWeavers has a great article about the differences between CrossOver and other Wine distributions: codeweavers.com/…/wine-crossover-and-proton-whats…

PlayOnLinux is no longer under active development (even Phoenics seems to have been stale for a while now), and Steam’s Proton, Lutris, or Bottles are what you should use on Linux nowadays.

SSUPII ,

I find Lutris so extremely annoying. I feel like sometimes it just never does what you tell it to do. Bottles is even worse, I simply feel like I am being crippled in possible actions you can perform.

Spectacle8011 ,
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Is your issue that Lutris is buggy or limiting? I haven’t encountered buggy behavior in Lutris, and it gives you a ton of options. I like some parts of bottles but I would really like to be able to change cover art without editing a config file, lol. It’s definitely the easiest way to get started with Wine though.

There’s Heroic Games Launcher too, by the way. It has less features than Lutris but it’s probably easier to use? It’s also prettier than Lutris, I think. What issues were you having with Lutris?

SSUPII ,

To me, Lutris has always been a very stubborn application.

  • Saying a game is running while its not
  • saying a game is not running while it is
  • unclear library override versioning (whats the difference between disabled and Manual, why can’t I provide my own version from the UI directly then)
  • hard to troubleshoot as I cannot see at a glance how Wine is invoked and the logs tend to be hard to read inside the logs popup window
  • hard to see what winetricks is trying to do when invoked from it

Yet, when I say it gets the job done I mean it. But the program itself adds some more headaches, yet I need it as I don’t know how to do half of what it does from a terminal and/ore scripts only.

pearsche ,

I can understand Lutris sucking, but how is Bottles worse? Genuinely curious.

SSUPII ,

I feel like its way too streamlined. And with its UI I feel like I have very little choices in how it operates.

xrtxn , in Linux 6.6 To Support Rumble / Force Feedback On Google Stadia Controllers

But… they are discontinued already lol

fraydabson ,

A lot of people still have a few that we converted to bluetooth so this is great news!

Defaced ,

I have two of them, and they’re great controllers. It has a really nice dpad and the joysticks never had any reputation for stick drift. The Bluetooth implementation suffers from the same problem all Bluetooth controllers have though, latency. If it weren’t for the shoddy Bluetooth implementation it would be the perfect controller.

newIdentity ,

But to be fair: the Bluetooth never was intended to be used for something different than initial pairing.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Sure, but it works pretty well for me. I have BT headphones and DS4 controllers, and they work reasonably well together. I don’t really notice the latency for the type of gaming I do (non-competitive SP games mostly).

theshatterstone54 ,

Google pushed an update allowing them to be used as regular controllers

newIdentity ,

Honestly the Stadia controller was great. I still have it and it’s my favorite. The Bluetooth implementation just isn’t that great since it was never intended to be used that way anyway

LastYearsPumpkin ,

It’s the primary controller I use with my SteamDeck.

I got it for free with a stadia promo, then Google unlocked the Bluetooth, and it works fine.

ono ,

They’re easy to find for $15-20 USD. What does it matter if they’re discontinued?

vividspecter ,

So is the Steam Controller, but I’ll continue to use them until something better comes along.

jayandp ,

Dirt cheap on eBay and will probably show up in thrift stores eventually. Making them usable by someone is better than them ending up in a landfill.

Though I still wouldn’t buy one, but I’m biased since I have one already(got it for free from Google at some point 😝)

ayaya , in NVIDIA GeForce vs. AMD Radeon Linux Gaming Performance For August 2023
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I find it odd that in some of the tests the 7900 XT is being beaten by the 6800 and/or 6800 XT. That doesn’t seem right.

Atemu ,
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Almost looks like they were swapped.

vividspecter OP ,

Sometimes there can be bugs and regressions, but yeah it could be an issue with the benchmarks themselves.

andrew , in PSA for people trying out Wine/Proton for the first time
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Wait, why not? I’ve been doing this for a few games so I can play on Linux or boot to Windows and play there if I need more reliable remote play or better performance. I haven’t had any major issues, just annoying occasional proton reinstallation when I’m in Linux.

MyFairJulia OP ,
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Wait a minute, Proton didn’t shit the bed when you run games off of NTFS? Did you happen to set permission masks or smth?

bgtlover ,

@MyFairJulia wait, you can run games from ntfs drives with linux? what ntfs driver is recommended for that? is ntfs3g broken? I'm asking because each time I try to do something like that, I do get permission issues, as you say. Worse, each time windows would make a file, the linux side would come up with a permission error when trying to access it. That's why, I don't use ntfs stuff anymore at all

krow ,
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I didn’t know that I wasn’t meant to run windows game off ntfs, didn’t have any issues but the drive did die recently (bad sector) I’m assuming this might have been the reason?

bgtlover ,

that's possible, ntfs and linux are known to not work very well, as you probably have seen in this thread.

EddyBot ,

the issue probably is that you had the proton/wineprefixes on ntfs which will not work

PlutoParty ,

I run overwatch and rdr2 from ntfs partition with no problems. I just created a symlink from the default install path.

Rossel ,

I symlinked the game folders from a NTFS drive to steamapps/common/ on my ext4 drive, and it works fine. Of course the compatdata and shader caches are on the ext4 drive.

ryannathans , in "You should migrate to Linux"

Can you list the issues because I don’t have problems with these titles on linux. Maybe fedora issues, they are notorious for not fixing issues. That’s why nobara was born

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I have RDR2 installed and it works just fine. My process was:

  1. Install from Steam
  2. Play

That’s it. Maybe OP is trying to play from another store? If you play on Steam, almost everything works without any configuration whatsoever.

merthyr1831 , in This little machine continues to surprise me

Steamdeck made me sell my desktop! I still have an entry-level gaming laptop if I need it but 90% of my PC gaming is on the deck now

sebinspace , in This little machine continues to surprise me

If Linux gets support from Abode so I can ditch Photoshop, I’ll be there.

merthyr1831 ,

Honestly I hope the next couple of years see more Proton work for supporting Adobe (legit copies or otherwise heheh) so more users can migrate over.

Inkscape has improved a lot with its newest version and I pray that GIMP will speed up dev soon so maybe that’ll make up for the lack of Adobe stuff

TrickDacy ,

Yeah I want Gimp to be good so bad but I’ve been waiting for like 20 years and it never seems to change…i really want a Photoshop and Lightroom ripoff for Linux.

Dunstabzugshaubitze ,

Darktable is pretty neat, but i only edit photos of my dogs and gatherings of friends and family tbh, so it could lack a lot of what lightroom does and i’d never know.

It’s compatible with adobes .dng so you should be able to get usable raws from almost every digital camera with the dng converter in wine, if your cameras raw format is not supported.

vikingtons , (edited )
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Adobe may never do this. You might have some luck looking into alternative apps to the ones you work with.

There are some very compelling, cross platform, FOSS alternatives to Photoshop (GIMP, Krita), Illustrator (Inkscape), InDesign (Scribus), maybe premier pro (Davinci Resolve isn’t FOSS, but it is cross platform. You can also try shortcut, openshot, kdenlive but they’re not as advanced).

One thing I miss, however, is the interoperability between Adobe apps. Like copying a vector from illustrator into an InDesign document. I couldn’t do the same between Inkscape and Scribus

sebinspace ,

Abode. Think your brain autofilled that.

Abode is an alternative suite being developed by Culture Hustle, the company started by Stuart Semple, and who made the blackest black and pinkest pink paints, aswell as who ported the Pantone catalog after that whole fiasco.

squidman64 ,

Such a poor choice of name. And I feel bad for all the people dumb enough to give him money for it thinking they’ll get anything close to photoshop.

sebinspace ,

Hi, Adobe!

miss_brainfart ,
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Scribus can’t be a replacement until Master Pages work like they do in InDesign.

vikingtons ,
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That’s fair enough

dunestorm ,
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Imagine paying a subscription; use Affinity Photo and Designer as these are very viable alternatives without the subscription. GIMP is not a good alternative despite it being free :(

arefx ,

If you’ve ever spent any time in Photoshop you know gimp is garbage in comparison. Photopea is better than gimp.

Knecht ,

Photopea is the way to go for me

sebinspace ,

Who said anything about paying? :P

i_am_hiding ,

I agree GIMP isn’t great, but Krita is everything I ever wanted. It completely replaces Photoshop for me.

FellowEnt ,

Affinity is great, I try it every once in a while but it’s just not quite there as a replacement for Photoshop for Pro level work.

d3Xt3r ,

If you don’t need Photoshop for actual work, then running it under Wine is a viable option. CC 2019 (20.0) works fine for the most part, but you need to install it in Windows first and copy over the installed folder. CC 2023 also works, but there’s no GPU acceleration support (yet).

Postcard64 , in Steam On Linux(1.96%) Usage Spikes To Nearly 2% In July, Larger Marketshare Than Apple macOS(1.84%)

I’m not seeing anyone comment on the last paragraph of the article, so I’ll paste it here.

With the SteamOS / Steam Deck monthly numbers not showing any magnificent gains, I am curious over this 0.5% increase for Linux gaming overall and whether it’s genuine.

The likely explanation is when looking at the demographics and seeing Steam by Chinese users dropping 3.4% while the English usage picked up by 3.4%. Chinese gamers and reporting differences there have previously vastly swayed Steam statistics in prior months.

So this might just be a maths artifact.

masterairmagic ,

Are there numbers on Steam Deck sales?

just_another_person ,

All they said for sure was they sold out their first two production runs which were based on pre-order numbers, and that was over 1mil at the time they said that. Found this quote though:

“According to Omdia, the Steam Deck sold an estimated 1.62 million units in 2022, and is on track to sell about 1.85 million units throughout 2023. This would push total Steam Deck unit sales to 3.47 million by the end of 2023.”

So if true, they blew through those first units super fast, and then ramped production again. I’m sure they sold a ton last month when t was 20% off for Summer Sale as well.

masterairmagic ,

nice

ulu_mulu , in Heard a rumor about open source WoW (original)
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Opensource yes, original impossible.

WoW server emulators have been in development for over a decade, they’re public projects on GitHub and released under opensource licenses, all private servers use those emulators, none of them has original code, it’s never been stolen.

You can compile them for Linux (as well as Windows), how well they work depends on the version, up to WoTLK they’re fine, from Cata on they’re quite bad.

You will need the original clients that are Windows only but they work flawlessly with WINE.

Most popular projects:

Nuuskis9 OP ,

Thanks a lot! Let’s see if I manage to launch this lol

Nuuskis9 OP ,

Thanks a lot! Let’s see if I manage to launch this lol

ulu_mulu ,
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If you never played WoW before, I suggest you play the official one before dabbling with emulators/private servers, it’s a much better experience if you know nothing about the game.

WoW client is not native on Linux but it runs flawlessly regardless, always have, it’s also very easy to install with Lutris: lutris.net/games/world-of-warcraft/, use the battle.net script and follow instructions to install dependencies first.

andybug , in Devs Announce FaceIT Anticheat for BattleBit will be compatible with Linux, Steam Deck
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Very happy to hear this. I’ve been really enjoying the game but expected my time in the game to have an expiration date. Hope they follow through and the game can maintain a decent player base.

Hextic , in Devs Announce FaceIT Anticheat for BattleBit will be compatible with Linux, Steam Deck

Big if true cuz I was about to buy it til I read some stuff about them implementing anti cheat that wouldn’t work on Linux.

Max_P , in Is there a way to improve cpu performance with wine/proton?
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For a CPU benchmark like this, something is definitely weird because wine shouldn’t be translating anything. I wonder if the benchmark might be doing weird things with the Windows API.

That sounds like you’re hitting an edge case and it might not be representative of the actual performance you can expect out of Wine.

Have you tried other benchmarks?

Waffelson OP ,

No

I’m thinking of testing Cinebench

Are there any other tests I could check?

infeeeee ,

Find something which has native linux version as well, e.g. passmark performance test.

Run on win, linux and win version in wine. Comparing the 3 results you can figure out if wine is the problem, or some settings in linux if wine and linux results are similar

INeedMana ,
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That’s a test I’d like to see the results of

Waffelson OP ,

I check Cinebench and Passmark

Cinebench

Wine - 4112 points

Windows - 3874 points

Passmark

Wine - 7053 points

Windows - 6864 points

Linux - 7145 points

It looks like the problem is in cpu-z and not in wine or linux

Grass ,

Why is windows slacking so much there? Or is lower better on these ones?

GrappleHat ,
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It’s not unusual to see better performance on Wine compared to native Windows. Wine is a compatibility layer, not an emulator. So there’s not a lot of overhead. Additionally, vanilla Windows has a lot of background bloat consuming resources.

Internet searches show many instances of people reporting higher FPS in games on Wine vs vanilla Windows (on the same machine).

Grass ,

That’s actually excellent. I knew that ‘Wine Is Not an Emulator’ from their web page but I didn’t know I could expect better performance in anything running with it.

synapse1278 , in What’s the best distro for gaming on linux? Any tips and tricks?
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Any popular distro will work fine for gaming. The difference between distros are becoming less and less significant with de advancement of sandbox packaging like Flatpak. Pick which ever distro is exiting to yourself!

If you want a subjective opinion: Fedora is my personal favorite for few years now; otherwise Debian is a very strong and stable distro that I daily-drove for ~10 years.

ichbinjasokreativ , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

AMD on linux is just really, really good.

Some annoyances exist though, like trying to use hardware en(!)coding while retaining the mesa drivers for gaming. HW Enc. is only available with the proprietary amdgpu-pro drivers, which are no good for gaming. You can work around that by using distrobox to setup an arch container on any distro and then using the AUR to install the proprietary drivers and obs in that container. That way, the rest of the system still runs on mesa, but obs loads with hardware encoding support. You can then export obs using distrobox-export -app obs-studio to make it available on the rest of your system like any other app. On nvidia, you install the proprietary drivers anyway, so obs will let you encode on hardware right away.

Menachem , in Gamingonlinux is introducing his presence on Mastodon in a relatively funny way.

In our current unparalleled enterprise, refusal to switch platforms is simply a refusal to grow—an insistence on watching ads, if you will. Did the Digg user refuse to Reddit? It did not. It crept forth boldly while its brethren remained in the blackest ocean abyss, with lidless eyes forever staring at the dark, ignorant and doomed despite their eternal vigilance. Would we model ourselves on the Facebook user?

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