Great to see, sadly I wouldn’t be able to use it. I have GTX 10 series and the next one I will be buying is AMD or maybe Intel, if their drivers get a lot better by the time I am in a market for a new GPU.
Yep, I have a RTX 2080 and am picking up a 6700 XT once my pay check lands later today (put in a bit of extra time to justify the cost) - I’ve given Nvidia more than enough time to get their act together.
I have heard that Intel had just recently released a pretty decent update to their driver, I haven’t been following it too closely but there’s certainly hope.
Can I ask why 6700? In raster performance it’s only about 10 faster than 2080 and in ray tracing it is worse. It might be a bit different on linux, but either way, when I will be upgrading I want better improvement than that.
I don’t really need to play the latest games, so I can easily wait. My next gpu will probably be 8800xt or even 9800xt
Primarily because my income doesn’t really allow for me to go any higher than that, I already worked a bit overtime last month since the opportunity was available in order to be able to pick it up. Short of a GPU magically falling from the sky, it was always going to be a lateral move at best. I’d love to either not have to spend money on a card that isn’t really going to gain me a performance boost (and I don’t do any raytracing, my gaming is still fairly lightweight - I’m still on 1080p 60Hz monitors for example), but Nvidia’s stupid games (ha) is pretty much forcing my hand.
As of right now, using Wayland is nigh impossible for me due to the this issue and a fix is a long way out from now because it requires approval on an explicit sync protocol, and then every single compositor will need to implement it - assuming it was approved fairly quickly, its not likely to land in KDE Plasma 6’s initial release, and I doubt it’ll make it in time for GNOME’s next release in the spring. If I used only Wayland-native apps it’d be fine, but that’s not the case - my IDE that I use for work for example uses XWayland and experiences the linked issue very heavily and makes it impossible to actually do any work in. Not to mention, most games still use XWayland since they run through WINE/Proton which doesn’t have Wayland support yet. But hey, at least Night Light/Color finally works in Wayland as of 545 (which don’t even get me started on how ridiculously long that took to get in)…
X11 is hugely problematic because I can hardly reach 60 FPS on just the desktop with basic windows open, the closest I can get is by running KDE and replacing the compositor responsibilities with picom, which has its own fair share of issues. I’ve spent all year trying various tweaks, driver versions, playing around with X/Nvidia settings, using KWin’s and GNOME’s triple buffer (patch), and this was the best I can do.
I was really banking on 545 fixing the situation with Wayland, but that’s not going to happen anytime soon given explicit sync needing to be added into XWayland - or Nvidia rewriting their driver to use implicit sync (which is a pipe dream, given that their driver’s unified architecture means that on Windows it would need to do implicit sync as well). NVK is still a fair bit out from being anywhere near production ready AFAIK, and nouveau is probably still a bit out there as well.
Ironically, Nvidia’s driver in Windows is also upsetting me. I get a stranger flicker from what I believe is the same issue as what was just fixed in 545 which is the power-state of the GPU changing. So this happens even when Steam draws its “Your friend is playing some game” notification, or opening a YouTube video.
Funnily enough, I didn’t even buy the 2080, it was passed down to me from a friend along with a few other components - I was previously on a GTX 970 which was… painful as I’m sure you can imagine due to its age, and wasn’t helped by Nvidia’s drivers being horrendous.
I’m not even a hardware person by any means (for various reasons, such as physical ailments), it was an accomplishment for me to be able to effectively tear down my old build, and replace all of the internals (PSU, Motherboard+CPU+RAM, GPU, liquid cooler… the whole works, only the case stayed the same really) so I’ll just be happy if I can get my new card swapped in without any issues. If one thing goes right for me this month, I just want it to be that.
At the end of the day, I just want my PC to work (and to let me literally work), and everything else is perfect and fully capable - well, I’m a bit disappointed by my new Intel WLAN card being shoddy in Linux but that’s a whole other story. Probably a lot longer of an answer than you expected, but that about sums it up haha.
I guess that’s fair if you need AMD GPU right now for work.
I am fed up with Nvidia drivers too. Games run smoother on my Steam Deck than on my PC. Like I have higher average FPS on my PC but the frame time graph are spikes after spikes. And on Steam Deck frame time graph is smooth line.
Definitely know where you’re coming from.with the frametime issues, I see the same thing whether in X or Wayland.
I thought that was just the state of Linux gaming for a while, since I hadn’t known anyone else personally who was using Linux (let alone playing games on top of that). It wasn’t until the Steam Deck came out which tons of my friends have that I realized “this is just another Nvidia thing is it”…
I won’t be buying an NVIDIA GPU any time soon for my desktop, but hopefully this move will make gaming on my laptop better. Unfortunately NVIDIA seems to have an almost monopoly on good gaming laptops especially if you don’t want giant bulky or cheaply built ones. My 2021 Razer Blade 14 has a 3070 and while the proprietary drivers work, NVIDIA’s own implementation of render offloading/PRIME leaves much to be desired, with random screen tearing even when vsync is forced on as soon as the GPU load starts getting high.
I think you have to be okay with APUs to be satisfied with AMD on laptops. Which at least are decently powerful these days, as long as high res triple AAA gaming isn’t a requirement (the Steam Deck is just an APU after all).
That's a Kbin thing, you'll get used to it. Also images in comments like the one you posted doesn't federate with some (I think, maybe they don't federate at all) lemmy servers, so maybe they can't see it either
Don't worry, it's a Kbin thing. It doesn't format correctly some fancy texts from Lemmy and we see a text box with the html tags and all. It should be ok on lemmy
I’m wondering whether the open source nvk driver will work with exclusive nvidia features like DLSS.
CUDA probably won’t work either, just like AMD’s RADV doesn’t do the common compute APIs. Maybe they’ll support Vulkan compute, but that’s not as useful.
RADV is just the Vulkan driver to be clear, so the other APIs are implemented separately. ROCm is supported by some cards, and Rusticl is the currently most advanced OpenCL implementation in Mesa (with Clover on the way out). Vulkan compute is implemented in RADV, although I found it to be slightly slower than the AMDVLK implementation (AMD’s official Linux Vulkan driver, developed out of tree).
As for Nvidia, it’s likely to be a worse situation since Nvidia don’t have a bunch of open APIs, just closed ones. Vulkan compute I would expect at least, if not immediately.
As for CUDA, it might work if you’re willing to have a hybrid open/closed system. On AMD this is possible, where you can generally install and enable/disable the AMDGPU-PRO compute and Vulkan drivers on demand.
It’s depressing that no other devices are getting SteamOS yet, either as out-of-the-box or at least supported fully day one. Here is why I suspect we are watching it die a second time.
Valve hasn’t released it standalone, which is probably making these manufacturers nervous
If Valve is even offering it to the manufacturers, money is probably flowing one way or another, as professional service fees to Valve, or ransom demands from manufacturers entrenched with Windows
Microsoft might still be doing their usual anticompetitive crap, offering incentives to keep SteamOS off of as many devices as possible
We are going to be held hostage on Windows for years to come because this is delaying the critical mass for adoption. Even though there are all the other viable community distros, we need the brand to keep things moving.
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I’d recommend Beyond All Reason. It’s open-source and utilizes a realistic scifi theme. You essentially manage metal and energy to produce more units, to fight against other player’s units. It’s very easy to learn, and looks nice graphically. The only caveat I can think of is that it is not on Steam. Game Link: www.beyondallreason.info
I recently checked out BAR and liked it. I don’t like micro in RTS games, because I always think “a computer can do this better than I could”, so it’s nice that they’ve got good unit automations available.
It just means having to micromanage a particular unit’s actions. I like it more when I can say “patrol this area, return fire and advance a bit if necessary, but no further than this”, instead of having to flip back to those units constantly to manage them. IMO it’s more thematic anyways for a sci fi game, you’re probably going to have units with a basic AI in them in-universe.
Micro is a RTS term for how well you control your units. In starcraft for example you have the unit “stalker”, which can teleport. Professional players with very good micro can use that teleport to always teleport out a Stalker just before it would die. This means because of good micro they don’t lose their units.
The opposite is macro, which mainly talks about how good a player is in managing the game on a grander scheme like managing their resources and having an overview over the whole map
(I hope my example is still accurate it has been years, that I watched an rts game)
I would like to take this for a spin although I see two install methods, flatpak and appimage? Any recommendations here? Seems like both are on par as far as versions go
StarCraft II. It’s on Battle.Net though so you’ll have to download it through Lutris.
The first campaign is free and there’s a coop mode for casual players. Entirely free except for cosmetics, some coop commanders, and the other campaign episodes. It’s easy to pick up IMO but VERY HARD to master. Graphics still hold up better than a lot of games despite being 13 years old. Despite its age, I believe it’s the peak of the RTS genre. There’s are a lot of community-made mods/maps that you can play for free. You can even play a remake of the WarCraft III campaign there.
Other RTS games that I like:
Age of Empires II (Steam). Graphics look decent enough for the remastered version on Steam. Complex economy system and slow rock-paper-scissors combat. Very slow-paced.
StarCraft Broodwar (Battle.Net). Remastered graphics also look decent enough. Unit pathing might still have annoying quirks like the original. Slightly slower-paced than StarCraft II.
Northgard (Steam). Beautiful game with a unique event-type economy system. Slower-paced than StarCraft II with some colony-building elements.
Not really an RTS game but I’ve been putting so many hours into RimWorld (Steam, native) this year. At its core, it’s a colony-building game but it does have some RTS elements to it (economy, combat, and unit management). Lots of mods available.
Upvote for SC2. People always talk about it being difficult, but that’s only the competitive ladder. There’s so much single player campaign, challenges, co op, and arcade custom map modes that you can play for ages and never even feel the need to touch competitive play.
Starcraft 2 is the solid bet, the campaign teaches you a lot.
But Supreme commander forged alliance for just a crazy amount of fun, almost 20 year old game and still has the game play to keep you landed, and they have YouTube games online.
As a casual RTS player I never really liked SC2 too much, at least in multiplayer. It’s one of those games where you get instantly punished when you don’t play optimally. In AoE or Supreme Commander or something I can at least build a base in peace for a while before I get absolutely destroyed.
Edit: I agree with forged alliance though. It runs on Linux and is an awesome game. Great sense of scale, and also nice for casual play
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