Maybe if Valve could work out shipping them to other regions officially we’d see more growth. I still see people lamenting that they can’t buy a Deck without going to some sketchy third-party and overpaying.
I haven’t been following progress on Xe/Arc linux drivers, but my impression from a few months ago was that they were still a bit rough for gaming. Maybe things are improving? Intel already has an open-source driver, so they seem well positioned to (eventually) compete in this space.
If build quality matters to you, OP, this Gamers Nexus teardown might be worth a watch:
You may as well. Proton on Steam is really effective and with GE I haven’t had a game be unplayable for a while. I don’t really care for modern loot box gambling simulator paid public alpha type games though, so YMMV.
So, because Foza Horizon 5 was one of the first games to come out for the Steam Deck I bought it for my PC thinking it would run well. Turns out it won’t run with the current Linux Nvidia drivers and I had to get a refund.
I take it you’re aware of protondb and tried the suggestions there? There’s a few people reporting recently that it works fine for them. Maybe recent updates have fixed issues
RTS, survival or factory games are very different. I get that AAA went nuts on FPS and it made money, but it doesn’t mean it is all of gaming. Fortunately indie games companies are killing it right now.
Absolutely not. You call me a troll and then call me rude? Getting bashed for not knowing a FPS game then getting bashed for it is really something. Check my first post, it was positive despite not knowing the reference.
If you don’t expect there to be frustration when franchises like Bullfrog got swallowed and killed and folk don’t want to play the only types of genres being pushed?
Ok troll, calm down or maybe follow your own words and go back to Reddit. Never did I bash you for not knowing the game, I bashed you for comparing it to halo and then subsequently saying all fps are the same.
We can have different opinions you’re the one attempting to attack me bud. All I am telling you is halo and half-life shouldn’t be compared past the fact that they are played in first person. Which is what I said in my first comment.
And yes you are fucking rude as shit assuming a bunch of bullshit. Condescending little troll baby
A troll is someone that disagrees with you? You’ve been in echo chambers too long, buddy.
For people that don’t like FPS won’t see differences, those that love it, they all seem different… Can you not accept that people won’t like your favourite games? Not very tolerant, no?!
I didn’t attack you, I attacked the gaming industry and the the view that everyone should know FPS. You’re a little defensive.
Swearing and insulting me. If only you could look in the mirror. You’re the rudest person I’ve come across here yet. Congratulations.
I understand you are in other arguments in this thread. This wasn’t meant to be one of them. I just got a kick out of you using “10 years”, “nowadays” etc for a game that is 20 years old.
To each their own! The story and design of HL2 still holds up for me, but at it’s core the mechanics are indeed FPS. If that’s a no-go, it’s unfortunate, but understandable.
Iunno, man. I am an old-school FPS head; but I’d never recommend a playthrough of HL2 to anyone who hadn’t before because it really just feels like a tech demo with bare connective tissue for story. HL1? Black Mesa? Yeah, sure; but not 2.
Its basically the intro to the original Half-Life game. If you haven’t I’d highly suggest playing the original or getting Black Mesa which is a remake of the original by a third-party company but with Valve’s blessing to do so.
Not my cup of tea. Preferred RTS etc. Not really bothered other than GoldenEye, Quake 2 and a little timesplitters with friends. FPS doesn’t interest me.
It's a parody of Dr. Breen's "Welcome to City 17" speech from the start of Half-Life 2. If you've never played Half-Life 2, then it's a very, very, very strong recommend from me.
Can someone explain what this means? I’m new to Linux gaming. Don’t really get what the difference is between wayland and x11. Will this improve performance in d4 on distros like fedora?
Simply put, X11 is the bottom of the graphics stack, i.e. everything that makes Linux have more than just a command line has historically been built on top of X11
X11 is OLD. Like really old. And has a bunch of problem because of it (no variable refresh rate, no good multi monitor support, no proper fractional scaling , tearing, no security etc) It’s also very mature. Somehow developers have managed to build a decent user experience out of the old X11
The Wayland protocol was designed to overcome the shortcomings of X11 and replace it. Wayland is now at the cusp of being a fully functional complete replacement for X11. It already is for many (most?) use cases.
Many Applications that are not made for Wayland will still run in Wayland, but they run in a fake X11 server inside called Xwayland. But native Wayland is better (performance, security, features)
Wayland very good on AMD and Intel these days. Nvidia was unsupported, but last year nVidia made a business decision to support EGL(?) so with fresh drives work has begun in Gnome and KDE to support Nvidia in Wayland. I’m not sure how mature Nvidia on Wayland is yet
yeah, wayland is awesome, unless you really need global shortcuts decided by the application, or a tun of other accessibility features. Still though, as you said, for most cases, wayland is good, and even the a11y features are getting ironed out, ever so slowly.
Wayland very good on AMD and Intel these days. Nvidia was unsupported, but last year nVidia made a business decision to support EGL(?) so with fresh drives work has begun in Gnome and KDE to support Nvidia in Wayland. I’m not sure how mature Nvidia on Wayland is yet
Clarification: GBM is what Intel, AMD and the general “nice players” of the Linux graphics ecosystem decided, whereas EGLStreams was something NVidia came up with because it worked better with their proprietary drivers (AFAIK)
Gnome and KDE were fine going out of their way to support both, but smaller implementations such as wlroots (the thing behind sway and Hyprland and other non-Weston “window managers”) didn’t feel the tradeoff was worth it (in both philosophical and manpower reasons) and stuck to GBM.
NVidia comparatively recently “caved in” and got GBM support working (alongside kernel mode setting & other terms you don’t really need to know about), and being one of the few proprietary players in the ecosystem they have not been able to benefit from help from the community, which is one of the reasons why their Wayland support is immature compared to the likes of Intel and AMD.
You’re mostly there, but the big issue now is their handling of Xwayland. nVidia also doesn’t expose VRR/GSync under Wayland (but an engineer remarked that it’s slated for the 545 series release on the nVidia Linux forums).
The most glaring issue currently that effectively blocks Wayland for nVidia users is the lack of implicit sync on their end, and the Xwayland developers refusal to merge nVidia’s proposed explicit sync method. This is oversimplifying but the short version is from nVidia “implicit sync is too slow, it architecturally conflicts with our driver forcing a comprehensive rewrite, and we don’t want to look bad with implicit sync’s performance”. The response from X devs boils down to “You weren’t there when we planned all this, implicit sync works fine, explicit sync won’t benefit how the Mesa drivers work so this would only be for your benefit, and you’ve been complete assholes”.
Neither side looks like it’s going to flinch, so getting Wine to run in Wayland is the only feasible solution for nVidia users. In an all-wayland environment with no applications running under Xwayland, Mutter and plasma-wayland run like a dream, it’s a great experience.
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