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mat , in TUXEDO Computers Launches First All-AMD Linux Gaming Laptop
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Cool! Might make me reconsider the next laptop I get. The all-AMD Zephyrus G14 I currently run has been an awful experience (overheating after 15min of gaming, random iGPU freezes, fTPM stuttering, no video accel on Wayland, HDMI is broken, wifi randomly stops working, and mic disappears on 99% of boots), and I was looking to replace it with an Nvidia laptop, but maybe Tuxedo can fix these issues on their own hardware and make AMD viable.

thoughtorgan ,

Damn, I love my g14. Good performance for what I expected out of the hardware.

warmaster ,

Tuxedo is the way to go right now, and since their prices are on point, we should support them for building rigs around Linux.

scrubbles , in Proton Experimental brings HDR to Mass Effect Legendary Edition and Injustice 2
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Are there any distro besides steamis (and by extension chimera) that’s support hdr? Or do you just need to launch the game in full screen so it takes over?

YamiYuki OP ,

I know that KDE is working on HDR support for Plasma 6 (Wayland). Dunno how ready it’ll be by the time it comes out, but its coming.

Other than Plasma 6, I don’t think so.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Release date should be around February and it already has a beta, so it’s probably safe to go test in now.

Owljfien ,

Any distro that has access to KDE plasma6 alpha can support hdr

sugar_in_your_tea ,

The beta was released late last month, so it should be pretty stable.

Die4Ever ,
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I built a couple of HTPCs like 7 years ago or something. Kaby Lake iGPU had support for 4k HDR so I figured I would use the i3 7100T and Linux would add HDR support soon (I was using LibreELEC which was a minimal Linux that just boots into Kodi). Welp still waiting…

domi ,
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Not sure if it’s supported on x86 but CoreELEC has had support for HDR on most modern ARM chips for a while now.

I use a Odroid N2+ as HTPC and play 4k HDR content with no issues.

warmaster ,

We needed someone like Valve to speed things up.

redcalcium ,

If you’re using an AMD GPU, you can try using gamescope as your desktop session.

Rentlar , in W4 Games raises $15M to drive video game development inflection with Godot Engine

Awesome to see it. At first I had some reservations about infusions of capital with investors expecting to see returns at the cost of Godot, but considering W4 and OSS have leading Godot developers in their ranks I’m quite relieved.

I do think that commercial free (as in freedom) open source software can exist, it levels the playing field and makes creating value available to anyone, not just those with access to proprietary software tools. Blender has a healthy ecosystem of free and paid assets and toolchains.

merthyr1831 ,

Agreed. In this case too it’s good to know that W4 Games and their Godot work is primarily related to porting Godot to consoles, since the open nature of Godot prohibits them from integrating proprietary SDKs without a third party like W4.

Cycloprolene , in NVK Gaming - Dark Souls III @1440p Max - 7945HX 4090M

Does dxvk work with <1.3 vulkan?

ReverseModule OP ,
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Older versions work, yeah.

fran OP , in Can't get ALVR to output video to Quest 2

I managed to get an output. Turns out it was Steam VR, installed the newer beta, but you need the 1.27 beta.

away2thestars , in Linux vs Windows, my experience
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You can always dual boot, Linux for working is amazing. And your can also install a VM but I haven’t tried it for gaming

nosnahc OP ,

I don’t work with this computer, my company provides us one. But thanks for the idea!

DarkThoughts ,

VMs are slow and not suited for gaming.

x2XS2L0U ,

You can even tunnel your hardware directly to the VM, e.g. graphics card and have like a 2% loss on the virtualization side. Not much of a deal, if you know what you’re doing. Bonus: You can restrict the VMs network, do external backups etc.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

You’ll need two GPUs, no? Passing a GPU through is relatively easy, but trying to share one isn’t going to work for gaming.

But if you have the extra hardware and lots of cores, VM gaming can be a very good experience.

Link ,

You can do it on a single GPU system but you can’t use Linux and Windows at the same time.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Isn’t that just a dual boot with extra steps? Or are you saying you could have a SW rendered Linux GUI while Windows is using the GPU, then switch Linux to use the GPU later? I thought there were lots of issues with swapping GPUs between host and VM without a reboot?

Could you provide more info?

Link ,

It’s just like a dual boot but slightly faster. You also don’t need to worry about having two drives, messing around with partitions or having Windows overwrite your boot loader.

As you pass your GPU to the VM, Linux can’t use it anymore so all you see on your screen is the VM. When you start and shutdown the VM, a script runs to prepare the VM to boot or to hand over the GPU back to the host.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

So can you launch it straight from a graphical desktop and just suspend the graphical bits somehow? Or do you need to drop to a vtty first? Does it work properly when loading from a snapshot, or do you have to boot each time?

I don’t need to use Windows very often, but it would be nice to run a script to get into it, then he back where I was after closing out.

Link ,

You can launch it from virt-manager or from the command line providing you run the script first manually.

The script will kill the display manager and unload the drivers ready to give the GPU to the VM so any GUI programs you have open will be instantly closed.

Regarding snapshots I’m not sure about this as I don’t use them but I have a feeling that libvirt doesn’t support snapshots with passed through devices.

away2thestars ,
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This is amazing, have you got any guide? I tried using boxes but didn’t get good performance

woelkchen , in A Linux gaming Laptop isn't as crazy as it sounds: Slimbook Hero review
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It’s a 15 inch device, with a 1440p display that refreshes at 165 hertz, with an aluminium chassis, a 13th gen Intel i7 CPU, an RTX 4060 GPU

https://i.imgur.com/hdJi6r9.jpeg

The whole setup makes no sense with Linux in mind and screams of a rebadged Windows notebook. Just go with an AMD-exclusive system, perhaps with an Intel WiFi module.

Amends1782 ,

Agreed with Linux gaming AMD all the way. For laptops if you don’t wanna go dedicated GPU they make some wonderful budget friendly performance APUs (CPU plus GPU like Intel integrated graphics but more capable for light gaming :) IMO of course

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

As far as I can tell, there isn’t a single Linux laptop with an AMD GPU. Admittedly, even in the Windows world AMD laptops are a lot rarer than Nvidia ones, but there are still a few. None of them come with Linux out-of-the-box, though.

a_random_fox ,
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woelkchen ,
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Well, then those Linux notebook makers do a crappy job. Radeon is the best supported gaming GPU on Linux as of now. That’s just fact. Any notebook manufacturer would look which vendors Valve uses for Steam Deck and pick whatever is the latest component from that vendor because all the driver improvements made by Valve also benefit the newer, more powerful GPU.

Taking an obvious Windows notebook and just rebadging it isn’t a real Linux notebook anyway. If I were to buy a new notebook, it would be the Framework 16. Sure, there is no option for it to ship with Linux but the DIY edition ships without Windows.

ArtikBanana ,

Framework laptops don’t come with Linux out of the box, but Linux is very nicely supported and tested on them.

sata_andagi ,

Yeah but consider the following: CUDA. I don’t even game that much (and I was okay with older games that can be played on a Ryzen APU) but I had to get a laptop with a 3050 for GPGPU shenanigans. It is definitely a downgrade in terms of Linux compatibility compared to my older laptop (the machine doesn’t go to sleep properly unless you are running Ubuntu 20.04, which I discovered accidentally)

woelkchen ,
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CUDA isn’t for games.

jimmy90 ,

I just got an HP omen with a 3070ti and Ubuntu is doing a great job of gaming. It came with windows 11

woelkchen ,
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Not doing a great job running basic modern desktop environments with Wayland, though, where workarounds are required everywhere to make shoddy Nvidia drivers work. Very recently (I think is was just last week) I’ve read that the developers need to give Nvidia special treatment just to make the cursor work. That’s just fucked up.

A house build on shortcuts and workarounds is not on a strong foundation. It’ll break down on the user at some point.

WeLoveCastingSpellz ,

I have had no problems with my nvidia gpu on wayland for the record, except for the wayland performance hit

woelkchen ,
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I’m happy for you that you think that required workarounds implemented by DE developers don’t affect you.

caseyweederman , in How Steam Play/Proton makes Gaming on Linux Awesome by GloriousEggroll

Some day I will go through my Saved posts and watch them
Some day I will have time

sugar_in_your_tea , in A Linux gaming Laptop isn't as crazy as it sounds: Slimbook Hero review

A “Linux gaming laptop” is just any “gaming” laptop you install Linux on. Ideally use AMD graphics, but even NVIDIA should work fine if you set up the graphics switching properly.

Honestly though, I don’t see a point in a “gaming” laptop these days, just get a Steam Deck and a business class laptop and be done with it. My ThinkPad E495 is still going strong years later, and it might outlive my Steam Deck. I’d much rather replace a cheaper Steam Deck instead of a gaming laptop when it stops keeping up with games.

onlinepersona OP ,

Not everybody has the money to spend on two devices, which is why these things exist.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I’m saying two devices can be cheaper than one, like in my specific example of a simple laptop ($500) and a Steam Deck ($500) vs a gaming laptop ($1k+). The simple laptop will also remain viable longer than the gaming laptop since it only needs to handle simple use cases, so you’d save money over time.

If you need games that don’t work on the Steam Deck (e.g. MP games with anti-cheat), then look into the rest of the handheld PC market. You should be able to use Steam Link to play from the laptop, or just connect it to a USB hub and play on a monitor for KB+mouse usage. I rarely play MP games, handheld mode works for most games.

This keeps the laptop light and inexpensive, which is fantastic for my primary use of my laptop, to get work done on the go.

onlinepersona OP ,

Point taken. Definitely works for your usecase 👍

ExLisper , in A Linux gaming Laptop isn't as crazy as it sounds: Slimbook Hero review

Nice to see Slimbook here. It’s a Spanish company. I bought slimbook zero some years ago and it’s working really well. I would thinking about getting proper laptop/dekstop from them but in the end I went with Vant, another Spanish company. Vant is not as pretty but has better prices.

onlinepersona OP ,

How is their support? Their knowledgebase seems to be a hodgepodge of Spanish and English articles.

ExLisper ,

Had a issue with my zero just recently (motherboard battery run out), I posted on their forum and had a replay in a matter of hours with a link to disassembly video. I talked to them in Spanish but from what I see they reply in English without issues.

Instrument_Data , in A Linux gaming Laptop isn't as crazy as it sounds: Slimbook Hero review

Nvidia? On a LINUX laptop? Ouch.... not good.

onlinepersona OP ,

I wouldn’t buy it either. It always surprises me when a linux shop makes NVIDIA-only linux laptops. There must be some financial reason.

rickdg , in A Linux gaming Laptop isn't as crazy as it sounds: Slimbook Hero review
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It’s not. It’s the ultrabooks or any crazy form factors that are a challenge to Linux. But the Steam Deck has been a huge step forward.

onlinepersona OP ,

How are ultrabooks are challenge to linux?

devilish666 , in A Linux gaming Laptop isn't as crazy as it sounds: Slimbook Hero review

Last time i used slim laptop for gaming it’s generate heat too much like i want to melt iceberg in north pole with it & climate activist start protesting arround me
I don’t say it’s bad but it’s not for me, in the end it’s nice for some people that need lightweight portable laptops especially if you work on long shift

Chiller , in Tribes 3 Rivals Playtest works on Linux - a personal report

Nice to see Tribes back. Also SpecFeq and Rezarus Alpha are being made based on classics Busy year ahead .

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

It’d be nice to have something from the rest of the Starsiege/Earthsiege/Metaltech universe back, though.

Chiller ,

Oof indeed.

Zenzio , in Tribes 3 Rivals Playtest works on Linux - a personal report

Woooo!! Just played my first round. I have such fond memories of Tribes Ascent.
Here is hoping it stays this way and they keep allowing Linux players.

Rentlar OP ,

How was your experience, technically and gameplay wise?

If Prophecy decides not to enable Linux compatibility of the anticheat (this is a togglable option on their end), I’ll be sure to contact them to try to convince them otherwise.

Zenzio ,

Didn't have any Problems playing (the one round that I did play). If one has played Tribes before one will feel right at home. Pretty sure they switched the default keybindings up a bit. Shift for sliding and Space for the jetpack.

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