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Bero , in Hearts of Iron 4 on Wayland doesn't work
@Bero@kbin.social avatar

Why use proton/wine when the game has a native client that works fine?
Playing it on kde/wayland on arch for a long time now, and both native and windows client through proton work just fine.

Max_P , in Is there a way to improve cpu performance with wine/proton?
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

For a CPU benchmark like this, something is definitely weird because wine shouldn’t be translating anything. I wonder if the benchmark might be doing weird things with the Windows API.

That sounds like you’re hitting an edge case and it might not be representative of the actual performance you can expect out of Wine.

Have you tried other benchmarks?

Waffelson OP ,

No

I’m thinking of testing Cinebench

Are there any other tests I could check?

infeeeee ,

Find something which has native linux version as well, e.g. passmark performance test.

Run on win, linux and win version in wine. Comparing the 3 results you can figure out if wine is the problem, or some settings in linux if wine and linux results are similar

INeedMana ,
@INeedMana@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a test I’d like to see the results of

Waffelson OP ,

I check Cinebench and Passmark

Cinebench

Wine - 4112 points

Windows - 3874 points

Passmark

Wine - 7053 points

Windows - 6864 points

Linux - 7145 points

It looks like the problem is in cpu-z and not in wine or linux

Grass ,

Why is windows slacking so much there? Or is lower better on these ones?

GrappleHat ,
@GrappleHat@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s not unusual to see better performance on Wine compared to native Windows. Wine is a compatibility layer, not an emulator. So there’s not a lot of overhead. Additionally, vanilla Windows has a lot of background bloat consuming resources.

Internet searches show many instances of people reporting higher FPS in games on Wine vs vanilla Windows (on the same machine).

Grass ,

That’s actually excellent. I knew that ‘Wine Is Not an Emulator’ from their web page but I didn’t know I could expect better performance in anything running with it.

sosodev , in My Experience Switching From NVIDIA To AMD

Same experience here. I recently made the switch and love how so many regular annoyances disappeared.

sosodev , in Hearts of Iron 4 on Wayland doesn't work

For me it seems like games regularly fail to launch on Wayland but are fine with X. Did you try Gamescope?

SanndyTheManndy , in Gaming on Linux has come a long way
@SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.perthchat.org avatar

Many games even run better on linux with proton than on windows, due to package bundling and stuff. Though the games I play the most already have native linux support.

UnhappyCamper ,
@UnhappyCamper@kbin.social avatar

I keep hearing this, but I personally have yet to see it. Definitely most of my games run just as well on linux, but otherwise some of them are still glitchy.

Don’t get me wrong, I'll never go back to Windows, I love Linux, but what are these games that run better on Linux?

mycus ,
@mycus@kbin.social avatar

top of my head, sekiro.

was on windows getting about 30fps and struggling to run, so I used a ported dxvk dll someone mentioned, it is on github (I'll post the link when I find it)

straight to 60fps, no more frame drops. it was crazy.


edit: I was on an AMD gpu, iirc I don't think people on nvidia had the same problem

update: found the post

cyanarchy ,

As I understand, it’s not common, but when it does happen it’s really because vulkan is just that much better than the original directx implementation, even with DXVK working to translate all the system calls.

ComeHereOrIHookYou ,

Not to mention older games run better on Linux because of better compatibility than on Windows.

It is so bad that sometimes certain games even use Wine’s DirectX dlls are used to improve performance on these older games, lol

shadedmagus , in What’s the best distro for gaming on linux? Any tips and tricks?
@shadedmagus@lemmy.world avatar

I guess it depends on what your use case might be. I have heard that Manjaro is decent for a desktop Arch experience, but I have yet to try it.

My use case recently was for a living-room PC that works like a console version of the Steam Deck. For that purpose, ChimeraOS works really well. It’s an Arch-based distro that uses the Steam Deck controller-first interface and so far is handling almost everything I’ve thrown at it. It even has a remote admin app where you can install games from GOG or Epic (although GOG support only installs the base game at the moment, no DLC or updates) or upload console ROMs for emulation.

I would say if you go this route, get a PS4/PS5 controller. The touch space is recognized as a mouse, which removes the need to attach a mouse for those moments when you need to get into the desktop (such as formatting a secondary drive for use in Steam).

ComeHereOrIHookYou , in Subjectively, how are modern Intel UHD or Iris Xe Graphics for mild gaming on an Ubuntu based distro?

I had a chance to use UHD 630 for mild Linux gaming for a couple of months 5 years ago. So far it was good. Was able to Minecraft (No shaders though) with decent fps and a couple of 3d browser games such as Forward Assault (Some Counter strike like game), Tetr.io and Bemuse.

For Steam games… it was able to play 2d games great. Majority of newly released 3d games (Indie, triple A is out of the question) that time, the iGPU struggleds however.

Well I only wanted to play Skyrim at 1080p and it was able to deliver.

Also was able to play Dota and Counter Strike Global Offensive too.

I don’t think the newer intel iGPUs are any better, I mean it can play 3d games fine but usually performs OK on games a generation behind or older.

cakesale , in Hearts of Iron 4 on Wayland doesn't work

You don’t need wine installed for Proton to work. Make sure you have the correct Vulkan drivers installed.

circuitfarmer , in Is there a way to improve cpu performance with wine/proton?
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yeah this is weird. CPU instructions aren’t being translated by Wine/Proton, as I understand it. It’s not emulation.

I suspect there’s something in the reporting which is actually giving you false figures.

krnl386 , in Is there a way to improve cpu performance with wine/proton?
@krnl386@lemmy.ca avatar

Do you get better numbers with Windows on the same PC?

Waffelson OP ,

Yes, 500 points more

krnl386 ,
@krnl386@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m curious if this is caused by the fact that wine/proton is an API emulation layer. Whatever API calls this app uses for benchmarking may be less efficient, or maybe emulated, rather than talking directly to hardware. It should also be noted that these benchmark numbers are probably not indicative of actual game performance, as games likely use different API calls that are well or better optimized.

Grass , in Radeon RADV Driver's Emulated Ray-Tracing Achieves 100% Pass Rate

Lol so it will ‘work’ on cards that can’t even handle it?

Voytrekk OP ,
@Voytrekk@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, you will be able to emulate it with older cards. Not recommended, but it is still something you can do in Windows.

Carter , in Amazon Games support is coming soon to Heroic Games Launcher

This is great news. The more supported stores the better.

Voytrekk OP ,
@Voytrekk@lemmy.world avatar

Hopefully they can continue to add more stores. Maybe Humble Bundle and itch.io can be added in the future too.

manush ,

itch.io app from flathub works perfectly.

sambeastie , in Multi-vendor RGB controller app OpenRGB v0.9 is out now

Hoping the bug with Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro is fixed so it doesn’t take up a huge amount of CPU resources to run effects. I had a really cool set of effects going that I just couldn’t use because of this.

tiwenty , in Undervolting in linux
@tiwenty@lemmy.world avatar

I’d also be interested in it. I got a work laptop that has a good battery, but it’s an i7 and I mainly need to SSH and use FF, so I think I could undervolt/underclock quite a bit.

Juujian , (edited )

Ubuntu has some pretty sensible presets for that, I use them by default when I’m on battery. It’s called power profile and there is performance, balanced, and power saver. The only application where responsiveness really suffers is gmail 🤡

Pretty sure those are present in other distros, too. My understanding is that they really just limit per draw.

tiwenty ,
@tiwenty@lemmy.world avatar

Too bad I use Arch (btw) ^^

sambeastie ,

You can use it on Arch too. It’s probably worth checking out the whole Power Management page on the wiki, but in short, the major desktop environments all have hooks for these options, and there are a lot of options for supplementary packages to power-profiles-daemon that you might find helpful.

wiki.archlinux.org/title/Power_management

tiwenty ,
@tiwenty@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you, I’ll check it!

pelotron , in Hearts of Iron 4 on Wayland doesn't work
@pelotron@midwest.social avatar

What was the behavior when you tried to launch it?

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