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Why Personal Cloud Storage is so bad on Linux?

The main cloud services don’t even work natively (GoogleDrive, OneDrive, iCloud) basically the only mainstream choice is Dropbox. I tried to use Google Drive in Mint, and it’s a pain to get it to work, and usually it stops working after computer restarts.

Someone has a recommendation about how to handle these services?

43dc92z0 ,

I created filen account using https://filen.io/r/d5a92a596e8518e27b0db303e73e8107 so i got 20 GB storage. And it has linux appimage also.

build_a_bear_group ,
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Not to endorse, but Dropbox always seemed to work without issue. Again, several years since I used it.

But more seriously, Ubuntu One should never have folded.

FuckyWucky ,

with rclone you can mount cloud storage as a folder

_edge ,

I don’t understand those questions. Google Drive is webdav to the best of my knowledge. Anyway, it works out of the with Gnome/Ubuntu. When you connect a Google account, a drive icon appears. Doesn’t get more “native”.

I get the problem that most vendors don’t have an app for Linux, so some functionality is lacking compared to what you may be used to. And cross-platform anything can be a problem, i.e if you really need Linux Desktop + Android + Windows + Apple stuff. (I do and learned to use web-based applications for work.)

What do you really expect from a “Personal Cloud Storage”? not a clearly defined term.

Seafile (needs a paid server as the backend) works nice for syncing files. Google Drives works as network drive. There are tons of backup solutions that work with tons of storage backends (aka professional cloud storage).

desconectado OP ,

Googledrive works as network drive and that’s a problem. Have you tried to run MATLAB scrips with a virtual drive? Or open an obsidian vault in a virtual drive?

What I mean by “personal cloud services” is actually trying to avoid those professional cloud storage that you mention, not everyone wants to selfhost or pay for teras of storage. I just want my personal files to be accessible from my work computers (has to be windows, not my choice) and my personal computers (Linux based).

_edge ,

Have you tried to run MATLAB scrips with a virtual drive?

Why would I? Git exists.

Really, you’ll get better answers if you describe what you are trying to do.

tegimaster ,

I also say that pCloud is possibly the best option. Simple install, free storage, and a cheap lifetime purchase for more storage. My only complaint is that they don’t support aarch64 yet, but I don’t need think there’s really anyone that does yet so I’m living with offline backups.

Crozekiel ,

Too many horror stories with pDrive about people getting locked out and never seeing their data again, and their terms lay it out that they own what you upload not you. That scared me away from pDrive.

I moved to kDrive and it has done everything I need so far. It’s a little slow to transfer if you are in the US since their servers are in the EU, but that’s a minor complaint and only a hurdle I had to worry about once during initial sync… It’s hardly noticeable with everyday changed to individual files.

The Google drive integrations in dolphin / KDE work well enough but it doesn’t have an option to “sync” folders in a local drive like the windows client did, and that was my main use case. Same with dropbox, you get one sync folder on your main OS drive. I have 8 storage drives in my computer and I have more data that needs synced and backed up than will fit on my main OS drive.

tegimaster ,

While I’ve never had a problem in my 5 years of use, I only really used it as an automatic phone backup that my laptop could then pull the files in and work with. Not a lot of use, or devices. I don’t doubt that pCloud has their privacy issues, and I don’t doubt the horror stories. Like I said I’m not using my account anymore, and would love to try Nextcloud if I had the time to figure it out and the money to buy the hardware to do it with.

Pantherina ,

Because Linux is not a platform moneymaking capitalists choose to develop their apps for?

You have Nextcloud for all distros, Flatpak, Appimage. You have Syncthing which doesnt exist on iOS.

ryannathans ,

Mega and syncthing work perfectly fine for me

necrxfagivs ,

I had a problem with Mega using Fedora. Trying to update from Fedora 37 to 38, I had a dependency problem with the Megasync app. I tried uninstalling but the problem persisted and I couldn’t upgrade, so I had to make a clean install.

Other than that, Mega and Syncthing worked perfect for me.

txiribitus ,
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@necrxfagivs @ryannathans Pedorra users are beta testers, change so to Devuan, void, slack, antix ... and finish the problems.

necrxfagivs ,

What do you mean?

milo ,

The same thing happened to me, so I switched to the flatpak version and it works well.

necrxfagivs ,

I haven’t installed it yet, so I’ll switch to flatpak too!

ryannathans ,

That’s odd, I don’t think the deb package has any dependencies

necrxfagivs ,

Fedora works with dnf, installing a rpm file.

flashgnash ,

Syncthing is pretty good. I’ve got a raspberry pi running it on my local network with an old usb hard drive I had kicking around and it works great

art ,
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Just to be clear, Syncthing is not cloud storage but file syncing. It can be used in a similar way but it does have different strengths and weaknesses.

NaoPb ,

I am currently using InSync on 64-bit devices and Overgrive on 32-bit devices. Overgrive works just fine on 64-bit devices tol but Insync is slightly more userfriendly.

kogasa ,
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Use pCloud.

huskypenguin ,

Life time subscriptions, it’s so cheap.

garam ,
@garam@lemmy.my.id avatar

idrive package is cheaper, if you talk cheapnest…

synapse1278 ,
@synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar

The linux client worst fine, eventhough I rarely use it.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

I haven’t had any issues with pCloud’s linux client either, although it is definitely not as quick to sync as Dropbox. It might take 30 seconds to pick up changes instead of 3. Something about block-level change tracking I think.

besbin ,

Most people I know who use Linux wouldn’t trust Cloud services cause that’s just storing your stuff on somebody else machine. You can self hosted service like Next cloud on a raspberry pi or just get comfortable with networking enough to setup VPN and ssh into your home computer from the net to get your stuff.

Hamartiogonic ,
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Well the thing is, I’m still not comfortable in opening up an attack surface like that. I would much rather pay for someone else to do that. Preferably someone who really knows what they are doing and keeps an eye on the constantly evolving security environment. There’s a bunch of other stuff happening in my life, so finding the time to play server admin isn’t that easy right now.

poVoq ,
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There are many professional Nextcloud holsters, for example: www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share

Hamartiogonic ,
@Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

Thanks for the link. Recently, I’ve been looking into nextcloud providers, but somehow I missed this company.

naeap ,
@naeap@sopuli.xyz avatar

If you need the online storage (or whatever self hosted service) just for yourself (and maybe some few people), it’s very simple to set up a Wireguard instance. My server doesn’t even show open ports to the outside world, but with Wireguard I can access my git, wiki, etc in my home LAN.
I haven’t really tried any of the second tier Solutions like Tailscale. But when you have more users or a more complex environment, that could help.

Still, sharing stuff with “outsiders” would still be tricky, I guess - at least I haven’t found a solution…

JackbyDev ,

A huge part of disaster recovery is storing things in separate geographic locations. That’s not easily don’t with self hosting. If all my stuff is on a file server at my house and my house burns down then I’ve lost all my files.

nyan ,

While this is true, you can have a remote backup service that isn’t the type of cloud storage the OP seems to want (that is, which isn’t designed for editing individual files on the fly on the remote server, or synchronizing between devices). They’re similar, but not the same.

JackbyDev ,

I’m mostly talking about the “somebody else’s computer” part in the comment I replied to. I don’t think it’s very feasible. I think self hosting stuff from home is awesome and think it’s a culture more folks should check out, but to really have a proper backup of files they need to be stored in multiple different physical locations and that’s not something that’s cost effective for most folks. What you’re talking about is still “someone else’s computer” so not different from the comment above.

alteropen ,

@JackbyDev @besbin my personal solution for this is an encrypted 16tb external storage drive I keep in my car. A copy of my server drive is made once a week. not perfect solution but doesn't require much effort on my part

JackbyDev ,

Where do you keep your car?

alteropen ,

@JackbyDev in a parking space on the other side of the road from my house, not far but deals with the whole house fire problem

JackbyDev ,

Just sanity checking 👍

ebits21 ,
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I guess it depends where you live, but I’d be worried about heat/freezing.

alteropen ,

@ebits21 yes this is true I mean I live in the UK so we don't get extremes neither way, but maybe during winter I should keep the drive at my partners place

BlueSquid0741 ,

I walk through the woods on one side of my house, there is a shovel behind some trees I’ve marked. Then I go back to my house, down the other side of my property until I get to the river. Then I dig in the river bank until I get to a plastic bag. Double wrapped of course.

Inside the plastic bag?.. a collection of 1gb USB thumb drives and a note pad.

In the note pad?.. an index cataloguing what is backed up on each thumb drive.

argv_minus_one ,

A hard drive in a bank vault is separated enough that nothing short of a nuke will destroy every copy of your data at the same time.

JackbyDev ,

Have fun going to the bank every time you want to sync.

argv_minus_one ,

Multiple backup drives. Rotate every week or two. It’s not hard.

ebits21 ,
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Uh what? Lots of Linux users also use cloud services.

Pretty easy to use something like Cryptomator with almost any service and maintain privacy.

Self hosting can be great; it can also be a pain.

rambos ,

I switched to linux (POP OS) as daily driver recently. Using selfhosted nextcloud and had 0 issues installing client and syncing. Didnt try google and other big guys yet

SteadyGoLucky ,

Pop OS had me log into Google and I believe my Google Drive space was automatically mounted. Too easy :)

rambos ,

It is too easy, but It probably got mounted as network drive so you dont have files stored on pc (bonus if you are low on storage). At least that was case with my nextcloud, so I removed that account and installed app from store. Both ways are super easy, iphone dificulty

Network drive is perfectly fine if you are ok with that (no internet = no files and it will open files bit longer), but OP was asking for synced files on local drive. I selfhost cloud and I prefer sync so I can have one more copy stored on desktop

episode3805 ,

rsync/ rclone just works! Have not tried rsync with cloud yet, I use rclone for encrypted backups. Most cloud services are supported including google drive.

Hexadecimalkink ,

Seafile works well on linux

bfly75 ,

Indeed. Quicker and more stable than Next loud or OneDrive for me.

merthyr1831 ,

Nextcloud works great! Includes integrations with GNOME and KDE including taskbar icons etc. and you can pay a service to host Nextcloud for you if you’d prefer that to selfhosting.

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