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buwho ,

Time for me to go FreeBSD i guess

lightscription ,

Best still rare even though potentially very user friendly and accessible.

shalva97 ,

nice

buddascrayon ,

I’m actually gearing up to convert all of my Windows machines to Linux once the updates for 10 stop coming. This will be especially easy once the new WINE gets integrated and the few windows game apps that I use can run well on Linux.

candle_lighter ,
@candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

what’s the new wine?

buddascrayon ,

www.howtogeek.com/wine-9-0-release/

possiblylinux127 ,

Better to do it at least a few months before end off life just in case you need to move back for some reason. The alternative is Windows 11 which is very similar to Windows 10

Mio ,

I have been dual booting for some time now. Come back to windows 10 for gaming. But then I suddenly realize that the blizzard games that I play can run on Linux, and even from the same folder with the NTFS partition. I was stunned. No notable performance difference either.

I recently shows my mum that have an old Core 2 Duo that it can run Linux Mint. She said it works, and the computer shutdowns directly when I tell it to do. No more updating windows to wait for before unplugging the power cable. Still have to dual boot Windows 10 for Microsoft Office Word document compatibility and Google Picasa.

She also just have bought a new computer with Windows 11, could barely make it through the installation. So many questions and configuration needed to get rid of ads and popups in Edge. Need to evaluation Mint more before I try to dual boot it on this machine as well.

mynameisigglepiggle ,

Or… Just fuck off windows altogether?

Mio ,

There is a learning curve for old people. It takes time. So dual boot is a must until then.

NutWrench ,
@NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

This. It feels to me like driving a stick shift when you’ve been using an automatic transmission for years. You have to do a little more fiddling but I honestly don’t mind learning a new OS that isn’t actively working against me.

With Windows . . . on the other hand . . . every time I’ve had to go “under the hood” (tweak Registry settings, Config files, etc) it’s been to prevent Microsoft from doing something crappy to me.

Mio ,

Yes, with Windows it is a fight about disabling all the new stuff they come up with. Here, you must use OneDrive if you save a file. Here, lots of ads in the start menu, nothing is installed. Or here, please try copilot+ or bing. Do you want to set bing as your startup page? If you say no, we will ask you again… A new windows update? Lets ask everything again.

LordPassionFruit ,

It also doesn’t help that my dad still isn’t filly convinced Linux isn’t a virus/dangerous to my PC.

Mio ,

He is just afraid of learning new things. Best way here is to show him how it works. Learning.

LordPassionFruit ,

Oh I’ve been trying. He’s tech adverse in general, so the concept of open source software scares him because it means trusting others with regards to tech.

Treachery4524 ,

If you want you can try OnlyOffice, it works really well as a replacement for Office. That is if you only use Word, Excel and Powerpoint. I even convinced some Windows people to use it as its free, open source, cross platform and perhaps even easier to use at this point.

For Picasa maybe digikam? It maybe isn’t a perfect replacement though. You could always try to run Picasa in a VM (or maybe even wine?)

Mio ,

Microsoft does not follow its own standard for doc and docx. Any other software tries to follow the standard, thus you can get different view of the document depending on what editor you use.

Picasa I think is easier to replace. Just need to relearn. Leaning towards Gwenview. VM is not an option, too complicated and slow for her. Picasa has been depricated for a long time now so it is time to move on.

elucubra ,

Picasa? That’s been google-bandoned for a while now. What does she use it for? Plenty of photo management tools in Linux. Darktable, Digikam…

If the office alternatives in linux don’t cut it, and she uses Office 365, you can run it in Linux as a PWA

Mio ,

Picasa because it had worked fine. And the replacement, Google photos, is not an option with storing everything in the cloud. Both Darktable and Digikam looks too advance. I think Gwenview will be a good fit. Will try later when she has the time to test. Just viewing the images in the folder, that is all that is needed.

It would be a good idea with the Office 365 but we don’t want things in the Cloud. If the PWA could run offline it would be a different story.

NutWrench ,
@NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

You might want to check out Libre Office. It’s document compatible with MS-Office and I think it comes pre-installed on Linux Mint.

spark947 ,

Are steamdecks getting counted in this?

SendMePhotos ,

Unknown

thingsiplay ,

I had a discussion about this 1 months ago: beehaw.org/post/14768525 And decided not to bring it up again. :D

My argument is, from the eyes of the website you visit, the Steam Deck user would be identified as a desktop user. That’s because the browser you are using (most likely Firefox) and the desktop environment (most likely KDE) in the Desktop mode would be seen as a desktop. In short, yes, I think Steam Deck would be counted, but only if people visit the pages in Desktop mode. So not all Steam Deck users are counted here.

spark947 ,

Game mode doesn’t have a browser. I would be interested to find out of the steamdeck sales almost directly correlate to this increase. Not that I am complaining, it’s a great way to use a linux desktop experience. I didn’t really read how these numbers were measured.

The other explanation I could think of is that linux desktop is being adopted widely in India. I don’t think that government’s adopting linux desktop accounts for a significant portion of the machines.

Simmy ,

Most likely. Steam decks are PCs.

M500 ,

My work laptop is windows and I hardly use it for anything personal. I just unplug the usb-c dock from it and plug it into my steam deck and use it as my desktop. I’ve done everything with it you can do on a computer.

yuri ,

In my head it’s like half a percent, 4.45% seems huge.

Blisterexe ,

about 1/20 computers that browse the web run linux, thats pretty goofy

MCasq_qsaCJ_234 ,

To what extent could it be acceptable?

yuri ,

Goofy like silly, not like unacceptable. Reckon all three of us are happy it’s as high as it is!

SendMePhotos ,

4.45 is huge. 0.5 is normal sized.

yuri ,

Huge is just about 9 times the size of normal.

Doods ,

[joke] That must be my friend’s laptop. [joke]

chiliedogg ,

How far down are PC sales in general though?

Is it that more people are buying Linux, or fewer Windows customers are buying new computers at all?

A few years ago, you’d have households with a laptop for every member of the family. Now with tablets and phones doing so much of the heavy lifting, many families are dropping to just 1 Windows or Mac laptop that mostly gathers dust.

blitzed ,
@blitzed@noauthority.social avatar

@chiliedogg @Magnolia_

or people are like me, not gamers, so perfectly contented to upgrade old used PC gear....shoehorn a CPU in with higher core count, max out RAM with a new matched pair of sticks, install a fresh NVMe drive, good to go!

I recently ordered parts from China to repair my old mechanical keyboard =^^= Also ordered fancy new mice for other PC's & wife's laptop woo just a little tech refresh goes a long way for me =^^=

Tryptaminev ,

My experience is more people having those devices on top of having laptops. I don’t know a single person in Uni that does not have a laptop at all. At last when it comes to writing reports or thesis you just need a proper keyboard device.

Meanwhile gaming and also PC gaming has become much bigger over the years, which keeps driving computer sales.

chiliedogg ,

Believe it or not - but most people actually aren’t college students. Crazy, right?

Anybody in this forum isn’t a typical tech user.

I carry 3 laptops in my backpack (one for 8-5 job, one personal, and one for teaching night classes at the University) along with a foldable phone, a work phone, and e-ink notepad.

Between my 3 laptops, Rog Ally, 2 desktops, and some old laptops I keep around for media devices and network interfaces around the property, I’ve got like 10 Windows machines in my life.

But I also know I’m an outlier.

yuri ,

ooh! what’s the e-ink notepad, and what’s your usecase like?

it seems so appealing to just have a functionally infinite notebook on hand, but i’ve yet to find one that could ACTUALLY replace a regular physical notebook for me.

chiliedogg ,

Boox Tab Ultra C.

It’s a 10" color e-ink tablet that runs Android.

Don’t get the keyboard case for it - it sucks hard. It’s so thick it turns it into another laptop, it types terribly, and when folded backwards so you can write it still tries taking over from the pen.

Other than that I love it.

yuri ,

argh that’s literally the ONE that was tempting me, now I guess I GOTTA buy one! this sucks!

(thank you so much i’ve wanted to buy this since it came out)

elucubra ,

Have you told your therapist?

elucubra , (edited )

If you carry three laptops around you are definitely doing things wrong. There is no real world scenario where doing what you say you do needs 3 physical computers, and if you have a 9-5 AND teach night classes , you don’t have extra minutes to use your “personal” laptop that day, which leads me to call bull on the carry 3 laptops thing

chiliedogg ,

The course I teach involves photo and video editing, which I do on my personal laptop for 2 reasons:

  1. Because I own the photos and videos I capture, the raws stay on my device.
  2. My personal laptop has a lot more horsepower
toddestan ,

I can see it. My corporate work laptop is locked down with their security and monitoring software, so I’m not using it for personal things, even if it is allowed for some limited things. And there’s company resources that I can only access through the machines under their control, so I couldn’t ditch it either. And using that laptop for a second job would be a big no-no.

I can see the school laptop being similar, though my experience is that they tend to not be locked down quite as hard as the corporate machine, unless you do boneheaded things with it and piss off the school’s IT department.

So I can see the need for a personal computer, plus it’s always nice to keep that well separated to avoid things like incidents hooked up to a projector and screen sharing.

Psythik ,

I used to think that I’d be glued to my PC forever, but ever since getting a foldable I’ve found that I’m no longer reliant on computers anymore for daily tasks. Plus there’s no point in eating up 300w of electricity during the summer (according to my watt meter), just to watch YouTube.

These days the only time I boot my PC is to play a game, search for a job, or make a large purchase. I’m a MilleniaI, so big purchases have to be done on the big computer. The phone is more than adequate for everything else. It’s not the 2010s anymore; phone screens are finally large enough now to replace a PC, and there’s an Android equivalent for almost everything a computer can do.

CrypticCoffee ,

Programming? Nah. It’s a consumption device, not a creation device.

Laborer3652 ,

Run Vim in termux

CrypticCoffee ,

Really ain’t writing code in termux. I want an IDE. Why use a substandard device?

Psythik ,

I’m not a programmer.

Laborer3652 ,

Yeah I used to think I’d always need a desktop, but these days I mostly only use my phone and laptop. And considering how small desktops are getting, I can only imagine the days of the traditional desktop are numbered.

nossaquesapao , (edited )

Both

Windows isn’t only losing markershare to linux, but also to android and ios. That can be seen in the chart for all OSes, also available in that site:

gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-201501…

It’s also interesting to notice that linux is growing in that chart, which means that linux is really growing in popularity, and it’s not just an effect of the desktop market possibly shrinking or something.

Xylight ,
@Xylight@lemdro.id avatar

9 crossposts is crazy

namingthingsiseasy ,

One for every current ~0.5% market share!

Blisterexe ,

with like 600 comments between them, holy moley

explodicle ,

To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛ …○

clot27 ,
@clot27@lemm.ee avatar

It is 16% in India, lessgo!

pyre ,

i didn’t need this date; i already knew this because the number of people coming up to me on the street and telling me they use Linux btw unprompted has increased noticeably.

InternetUser2012 ,

Microsoft’s advertising campaign for people to switch to Linux is working great.

Dufurson ,

This is the year!

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