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thayer ,

I would love to see an ostree-based (immutable) Debian for both stable and unstable.

Aside from that, my nitpicks aren’t distro-oriented.

LeFantome ,

I think the biggest flaw in Arch is the “keyring” package that can go out of date between updates. EndeavourOS makes it worse since it has two of them.

EndeavourOS ships eos-update that somewhat fixes this and can be used in place of pacman or yay. It always updates the keyring first. How many people use that utility though ( or even know it exists ).

Pacman and yay should “just work”.

reallyzen ,
@reallyzen@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s fixed by now I think ; I never update between projects, so sometimes would go a few months between updates and it hasn’t happen anymore. When it did, the fix was simple enough while still annoying of course.

AFAIK now the keyring gets updated first if needed. In the middle of something here, can’t try unfortunately - but at the time of the issue, while the first-level answer was “Update All The Things (all the time)”, the problem was on the table, and acknowledged as in need of a fix.

WbrJr ,

Unpopular take: A more complex installer that lets me choose what I want to use:

  • what de?
  • what theme of de?
  • what package manager?
  • all the video codecs or minimal?
  • what office programs?
  • graphics card? Nvidia or AMD?
  • developer pack? (Python, java, some other stuff, vscode/codium)
  • graphics suite (Krita, incscape, gimp)
  • KDE connect, syncthing?
  • Firefox or chromium?
  • cloud connections? (OneDrive, Google drive, nextcloud?)

I don’t know what else could be interesting, but I think that would take away the annoying “what distro to I want” and would make Linux more like “I like gnome, everything installed, I’m a developer” or “KDE plasma, graphics and office, the rest inwant to install myself”

Maybe I totally don’t understand what distros are, but isn’t all the same, just some differen configurations?

AngryCommieKender ,

I believe that Debian Unstable has you covered

/j

Jean_Lurk_Picard ,
@Jean_Lurk_Picard@lemmy.world avatar

Arch?

cyanarchy ,

I haven’t used any of the arch install scripts but they seem to have regular problems. Doing it the usual way is a proper way to roll your own but it doesn’t give you options. You have to know what you want, or you have to know where to find out what exists.

The guided installer is going to be important to a type of person we’re going to see more and more of: power users that know what they want to do, but for whom the Linux ecosystem is a foreign and fractous entity what uses entirely unfamiliar nomenclature.

ZeroHora ,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

For me Fedora only needs to speed up the dnf and update the installer.

joojmachine ,

You might like what’s coming for F40 at best and F41 at worst…

Helix ,

I would make Debian and Arch be deterministic like NixOS, but with a different language and less overhead. I really like the principle but the implementation is subpar.

Andy ,
@Andy@programming.dev avatar

For Arch, you may like a project called aconfmgr.

Helix ,

If it wasn’t written in bash… 😢

ipsirc ,
@ipsirc@lemmy.ml avatar

Bring back the old xpenguins and xsnow packages in Debian.

possiblylinux127 ,

I believe they are still part of a different package. They aren’t Wayland native though so they will use a bit more battery life and won’t be able to see wayland components

words_number ,

Debian (testing branch): Add normal firefox to the repo. Firefox ESR is total bullshit that makes zero sense to use. I always install it either as flatpak or from the unstable repos using apt-pinning (which works great though!)

scroll_responsibly ,
@scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I think Mozilla just released a Firefox apt repository a few months ago.

possiblylinux127 ,

Can we get a free software only version of every distro? That’s what I want.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Debian is all free software if you just use the main repo and avoid non-free and non-free-firmware.

possiblylinux127 ,

You can’t install it easily without some non-free software. When you download the iso it is precontaminated. You can add a special boot flag to turn off non-free firmware but that’s rather obscure.

I’m not against a non-free iso, I just want to have the option for both.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

They used to omit non-free-firmware from the installation. They changed it with Debian bookworm when they split the firmware out of non-free, since unfortunately a LOT of hardware requires non-free firmware of some sort. There’s also things like CPU microcode in there, which practically everyone needs to ensure CPU vulnerabilities are patched.

Octorine ,

I would like Debian and the fsf to come to some kind of agreement so Debian can ship the emacs documentation.

ShittyBeatlesFCPres ,

I’d like a vanilla, stable, rolling release. Fedora is close but I’d like a “clean slate” option where you have the desktop environment, package manager, and expected hardware functionality like sound, Bluetooth, etc. But then as few extras as possible so I can choose my own adventure.

And by stable rolling release, I just mean that most rolling release options are for beta testing. I totally get the reasons for that but while we’re wishing for things, I’d like a rolling release that was almost as conservative as an LTS release. I doubt that’s realistic but a feller can dream.

cyanarchy ,

A lot of people will probably tell you that what you’re asking for is an oxymoron. It’s not, it sounds very cool, it just occupies a point on the spectrum that’s likely to take a lot of work to keep in an arbitrary balance between rock solid and bleeding edge.

ShittyBeatlesFCPres ,

Yeah, I don’t even think it’s realistic because of how software development works in real life. It’s really hard to coordinate things even with a release cadence. It’s more a North Star to work towards than something I expect to happen.

kronarbob ,

I’m looking for a stable rolling too. But since yesterday, I’ve quit tumbleweed for fedora.

I left tumbleweed because I wasn’t able to find/install/update non flatpak application. The bug is only for KDE (gnome last ISO works fine, but not the KDE ISO). It was not much of a problem since everything else worked for me, but I find it weird to not fix that kind of bug, even on a ISO.

I guess void Linux would be the answer, but it requires a bit of work to set it up. Maybe, when I’ll have time to learn a bit more about it.

Slow roll would be another option I guess : 1 month slower than Tumbleweed, but it is still flagged as experimental by suse.

Solus has been revived last year. I tested their first iso from 2023. I found it laggy and didn’t liked the package manager, but 1 year can make big changes on Linux.

Secret300 ,

I still don’t know the technical details between zram and zswap but I feel like fedora should switch to zswap and support hibernation out the box

Fredol ,

more packages; open suse tumbleweed

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

I usually find most stuff without trouble. I guess i don’t have very exotic tastes.

nexussapphire ,

A robust way to make an install script on arch Linux.

Andy , (edited )
@Andy@programming.dev avatar

For Arch Linux:

  • support a different process supervisor
    • dinit, or
    • s6 with some high level sugar
  • don’t use Bash anywhere
    • port down to POSIX, and
    • port up to Zsh
    • port minimal launchers to execline
  • replace PKGBUILD format, maybe with
    • nearly identical but Zsh
    • NestedText containing Zsh snippets
      • use this to render Zsh based on templates
        • my favorite template engine: wheezy.template
  • build packages with more optimizations, like the CachyOS repos
  • include or endorse something like aconfmgr
  • port conf files to NestedText
UnfortunateShort ,

zsh

Weird way to spell fish

BautAufWasEuchAufbaut ,
@BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

But why zsh? I thought it’s basically just bash?
Why not fish, oil shell or whatever is up with ddevault’s shell?

Andy ,
@Andy@programming.dev avatar

There are many advantages relative to bash, especially much better array handling, and comprehensive globbing and expansion expressions. You can reduce your reliance on external tools, which may have multiple alternative implementations (a source of unpredictability).

Some defenses are written up at

www.arp242.net/why-zsh.html

(not my post)

For me, fish’s differences from older shells count against it without offering any compelling benefits.

Newer shells like nushell and oils/ysh are exciting and have a lot going on, but are not mature or familiar.

Falcon ,

I couldn’t agree more with this, projects like artix are undermined by all the hard dependencies on systemd and Bash.

Void attracted me because of the support for posix, runit and musl (plus good zfs support). It’s unfortunate that Arch doesn’t have that greater portability.

Andy ,
@Andy@programming.dev avatar

For Alpine Linux:

  • support a different process supervisor
    • dinit, or
    • s6 with some high level sugar
  • add something like the AUR
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