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Bye ,

I wish Ubuntu was just xUbuntu by default and that xfce didn’t have like 4 different settings menus for no reason. I’d also like it if there was a minimalist icon theme by default, and a dock like old school vanilla Ubuntu.

Oh and better multi monitor support

IsoSpandy ,

I wish for a default freeworld fedora.

tiny ,

Have A zsh shell with fzf history and zsh syntax highlighting installed

GravitySpoiled ,

Desktop environment should be separated from the OS. You should be able to change the de easily. Maybe in a container.

Present the user with common software when installing the os. Ask the user if she wants to install any of it (as a flatpak).

Ask for prioprietary codecs and install them if wanted.

Petter1 ,

I guess with immutable linux distros, it would be possible, as fat as I understand.

z00s ,

Present the user with common software

Manjaro does this with word processing software but I wish it did it with more stuff. It would be nice to not have to uninstall a bunch of apps and install my preferred ones as the first step after a fresh install

mac ,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

Like Ninite for Windows but at the start not manually downloaded

z00s ,

Exactly

bia ,

I’ve done this with debian in the past, you just install different DE in parallel. Works well enough, don’t remember it causing any issues. It just makes a mess of your home folder, so I don’t do it outside of testing purposes.

acockworkorange ,

It is. I don’t know what you’re talking about. You can go ahead and apt-get xfce on Linux Mint right now. Back in 1998, I had Window Maker, Gnome and some other windows 95 inspired DE all installed in my Conectiva Linux. It was always possible.

jsh ,

Installing KDE Plasma on a Gnome installation breaks so much shit it’s not funny, but most of this seems to be a problem with the command line because doing it with YAST seems to prevent things from breaking.

atzanteol ,

It does not? It’s what I did on pop os and it’s working fine.

Bo7a ,

I don’t get this. It is a common statement on lemmy especially among the new users. I have been daily-driving linux for many many years, and every install of a new distro gets 3 or 4 DEs added to play around with and find the ‘flavour of the year’ for myself.

I don’t recall this ever being a real problem. Ever.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Been using Linux for 25 years, and I remember some of this from init script years, but it’s been a long, long time since it’s been an issue in any half-way decent distro.

Bo7a ,

Roughly the same here. And yeah this hasn’t been a problem since the very first years. And even then it was just some config tweaks.

acockworkorange ,

I started with Conectiva in the nineties. Back on Gnome 1, fvwm, etc. Never experienced that. The opposite, it was always possible to run programs from one toolkit in another. The only issue was the aesthetic clash.

acockworkorange ,

I haven’t installed KDE in a long time. But installing both Gnome and Window Maker next to Mint’s Cinnamon was absolutely breezy.

pbjamm ,
@pbjamm@beehaw.org avatar

I frequently do this to try out different DEs. My only issue with it is that if the DE has its own version of some package like a music player I end up with a cluttered menu with all version from all installed DEs. Would be nice if there were an easy way to limit each DE to its app list by default.

acockworkorange ,

By default is a tall order. Most people want to have full access to their software library. But a GUI tool to edit the menu for a specific DE for a specific user…that would be nice.

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

That’s plain wrong.

Like so much of the Linux stuff that’s thrown around in here. It’s frustrating.

Petter1 ,

Package manager like yay for the community packages of openSuse tumbleweed.

pastermil ,

I wish Debian picks KDE instead of GNOME as their default DE on the instalation menu. GNOME is so ill-fitted for point release due to its bleeding-edge nature. It works well with Fedora because the distro itself is bleeding-edge (same goes with Arch & Nix).

sebsch ,

Arch should have the same zsh profile you have on the live image, installed after the installation by default.

ichbean ,

Arch doesn’t have zsh installed by default. In case people wanted this profile - it’s in extra grml-zsh-config.

CalicoJack ,

grml-zsh-config is its name, and it’s always one of the first things I install on a fresh system. I’ll never understand why it isn’t the default.

mactan ,

bootloaders should always be packaged with a pacman hook

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Stop using GNOME as de facto default standard. Fr I despise this crap

I seriously don’t understand how anyone from windows is going to find stock GNOME even remotely intuitive or useful.

What kind of sick bastard thought “Yeah you know what, people don’t need minimize and expand buttons.”

And then on top of that, they put in the most basic default modern android chromeos looking shell/menu as if this is some mobile OS that runs all its apps on the JVM and that everyone knows trackpad kung fu.

For such a “simple” desktop, it eats through ram like it’s KDE with all the fancy animations enabled.

Frickin Compiz solved the problem of performance and features over a decade ago. Use the god damn thing. If you need wayland, then at least KDE please.

If you’re coming from Mac, only then will GNOME feel somewhat familiar because of the shell. Otherwise, please just make the download either an ISO with several DEs or a menu to select the DE first. Or at the very least, make a better default GNOME setup.

banghida ,

Gnome is literally the only usable DE right now

lud ,

Gnome is incredibly annoying to use for me. KDE is so much better.

sorrowl ,

If that’s true, it’s very good we use a wm.

Rozauhtuno ,
@Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/f03975f8-cbbf-41dd-a769-ebf50f44bb43.webp

ScreaminOctopus ,

You didn’t even mention the worst part, you can’t change the default terminal emulator.

Kristof12 ,
@Kristof12@lemmy.ml avatar

True true, plasma the default or XFCE like is used on Mint would be way better

Corgana ,
@Corgana@startrek.website avatar

I seriously don’t understand how anyone from windows is going to find stock GNOME even remotely intuitive or useful.

GNOME is a very easy transition from MacOS, however. There are even themes to make it almost indistinguishable.

https://github.com/vinceliuice/WhiteSur-gtk-theme/raw/pictures/pictures/macbook.png

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

The truly awful one is “default the cursor on the save dialog to the Search input box, NOT the filename box”. I install Gnome every once in a while to check it out, and the second I encounter that dialog still behaving like that, I rip the whole marianne right out.

Like what insane monster thinks that’s reasonable?

catguy ,
@catguy@mastodon.social avatar

@mlg @tet my man can not let someone have their DE in peace

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Kde doesn’t use much ram. It hasn’t done so for ages.

Loucypher ,

You made me chuckle :) True, if coming from macOS, Gnome can be familiar enough but the defaults are terrible. Even those used to Macs need to install/enable the basics like maximise/minimise buttons etc. I don’t understand why even a Gnome centric distro like Fedora doesn’t come with Gnome Tweaks installed by default… Let alone the fact that usually the average user will also install a bunch of extensions. That is why Ubuntu is arguably the one doing the better job out of the box: their Gnome is actually useful from the get go.

YourMomsTrashman ,
@YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world avatar

I do like gnome for how out of the way it stays. It’s easy for new users to understand its lack of distractions and start to actually just use software on it. It’s got its target audience.

I’m not saying it can’t be done better. Cinnamon, my current personal choice, does most of the same things right.

I haven’t used KDE much because of graphical issues on my device, but it seems like a nightmare getting workspaces or gestures set up. It seems like the polar opposite of ‘distractionless’, where you can spend hours learning and/or getting lost in a maze of submenus. I understand that’s an appeal to some.

I want to love KDE, and I might retry sometime soon, but as a casual it does make me appreciate what gnome is doing.

Tippon ,

A better way to uninstall software.

While I’ve been re-learning my way around Mint, I’ve found that some software doesn’t show up in the GUI package manager. Removing it with Apt doesn’t give the option to remove dependencies or optional extras by default, you have to do it manually. Installing something from Github has to be done separately.

Even if it’s an optional extra, some software that monitors installations and cleanly uninstalls them would be handy :)

XTL ,

Learning to use autoremove will do that. I also like good old debfoster.

Tippon ,

Debfoster looks interesting, but they both seem to just deal with Apt. Something that covers the whole system would be ideal :)

neidu2 ,

Linux Mint - More up to date packages. Especially the kernel.

Blisterexe ,

They now have a mint “edge” iso that has a significantly newer kernel!

Dariusmiles2123 ,

Fedora:

-Window tiling without an extension -Ability to open a program on a certain workspace without an extension -An equivalent to Time Machine -Minimizing/expending buttons by default -Gnome calendar easily displaying your thunderbird calendar -Ability to easily try other DE

Otherwise everything is perfectly fine

Samueru ,

An equivalent to Time Machine

Doesn’t timeshift work? If you installed fedora with Btrfs which is the default it should work unless the default subvolumes used by fedora are not compatible with what timeshift expects.

Sorry if you meant to say that they should have it by default and you are already using timeshift.

Dariusmiles2123 ,

Well I’m using Clonezilla because apparently Timeshift has to be set up in a precise way to work on Fedora. To be honest, I don’t have enough knowledge to set up complicated things so that’s why I think it should kind of be enabled by default.

With some things I can take risks but not with a backup tool (even if it’s mostly to backup my settings as the files are saved on kDrive).

Samueru ,

Can you post the output of cat /etc/fstab?

Dariusmiles2123 ,

I guess I’m not techie enough to understand the question 😅

Samueru ,

Just open a terminal and type that and paste the result here.

savvywolf ,
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

Mint - Firstly Wayland support, but that’s been said before.

But one small annoyance is that they ship with a version of synaptic in the repos that doesn’t allow software upgrades. The reason for this is that they want you to go through their update manager (which doesn’t work for me, but eh). But seriously, for an OS and ecosystem which is supposed to be pro-user agency, why arbitrarily restrict people like that? I end up having to pin a specific version of it.

domi ,
@domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

Fedora:

  • Put H264 and H265 hardware video decoding back in
  • Make Flathub the default Flatpak repository
  • Make the installer easier for beginners by hiding advanced settings most won’t need
  • Make their KDE spin more prominent, currently you have to look for it to find it
XTL ,

Debian

  • Say the current stable and testing version number and name clearly on the web front page. Actually put it on every single page instead of burying it somewhere. It takes no space at all and is stupidly hard to find of you’re ootl.
  • Nicer installer. Make sure images with WiFi drivers and firmware are easy to find.

Also I wish every distribution had a wiki as nice as Arch’s.

rufus ,

If I might add something: We could turn something like testing or unstable into a proper rolling release for desktop machines. It works reasonably well for that. However it is completely unsupported and would require some change to the release model and manpower dedicated to it.

drndramrndra ,

Debian + nix unstable and you get the best of both worlds. Bleeding edge userland, and the system always boots^btw

hellvolution ,
@hellvolution@lemmygrad.ml avatar

You know you can just write: stable or testing on your /etc/apt/sources.list repository config, instead of the distro codename, don’t you?

BautAufWasEuchAufbaut ,
@BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Make sure images with WiFi drivers and firmware are easy to find.

That’s included in the main installation iso now.

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