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pivot_root , (edited )

A thought on the upper half of the meme: those “fans” sound like creeps with a fetish.

Streaming is just acting for a digital audience. If someone is going to be so upset over the identity of the streamer outside of their streaming persona, they are unhealthily invested in that person’s life.

Edit: I’m not surprised about the downvotes, but I am disappointed. This isn’t very different than followers on Twitch getting pissy when they find out their favorite gamer girl streamer actually has a boyfriend, and I’m sure most of you would agree that those people are creepy, obsessive, and fetishising women gamers.

Gullible ,
ArbitraryValue ,

One of the main advantages that streaming has over other forms of entertainment is that it does create a sort of relationship between the streamer and the viewer. Generally the viewer knows that the streamer isn’t really his friend, but the viewer does feel a sort of human connection to the streamer which relies on the assumption that the streamer is being authentic.

I’ll be frank: if I watch streamer content, it’s because I’m feeling lonely and watching it is a little like hanging out with a friend. Obviously it’s not the same because it’s almost entirely a one-way interaction and I know that the streamer is deliberately creating entertainment as opposed to doing what he’s doing purely for its own sake, but I would be disappointed if I discovered that a streamer’s whole identity was made up.

Kowowow ,

This relationship thing is why I avoid streaming, just feels like propaganda eventually it affects you even if you know it can happen

Verserk ,
@Verserk@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think people would be upset that the streamer felt the need to lie in the first place

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

I mean… I can see it both ways.

When people engage with content, they have expectations going in - they expect to know if the content is fictional, truthful, or intentionally ambiguous.

For example, if someone watches a documentary and finds out it was all made up, they’d be right to be upset, because it presents itself as honest.
Likewise if someone watches a fantasy movie, they don’t have the expectation of honesty.
And if someone watches something like the Blair witch project, they go in knowing that it’s dubiously truthful. It’s a bit of a grey area because the deceit is part of the art.

Streaming is similar, vtubers are obviously fictional - nobody really has expectations around what they’re really like.
But if someone builds a following around being authentically themselves, and then it’s discovered that they’re lying about significant parts of their content, I can understand some degree of outrage.

I don’t really watch streamers because the dynamic between streamers and viewers seems toxic AF, where streamers are kinda forced to pander and appear personable… But I still understand being upset when you find out what you got isn’t what you were sold

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

She’s stealing the identity of a marginalized minority, I say she didn’t get enough hate, this was an old case, the meme is just being recycled.

RiikkaTheIcePrincess ,
@RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social avatar

Somehow I hadn’t noticed this place was transphobic. Whoopsy!

Dav09 ,
@Dav09@lemmy.ml avatar

They were expecting so much “more” from her…

nicknonya ,
@nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

reminder that trap is a transphobic slur, you should add a content warning in the title

blindbunny ,

This is funny because my enbyfriend’s gamer tag is “trapsonly”

nicknonya ,
@nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

yes and half of the trans people on tumblr call themselves trannies.
the difference is the same as watching a movie with flashing lights after sitting through the epilepsy warning and getting your brain actually blasted by the day 1 cyberpunk 2077 braindance cutscene. one’s a choice, the other just happens to you.

ValorieAF , (edited )

I am trans and find “tranny” and “trap” offensive. They are derogatory terms.

EDIT: Damn crazy to see such bigotry on this platform. What a shame.

arin ,

Girls call themselves sluts, depends how the demographic embraces the word, my gf hates the term princess but likes it when i degrade her

ValorieAF ,

That’s cool but you don’t go and call girls you don’t know sluts, and in the same vein, you don’t call trans women you don’t know traps or trannies.

Passerby6497 ,

Not the person you responded to, but calling someone a slut is super common in my friend group. I know at least 3-4 people who I regularly call a slut lol.

Klnsfw ,

Reversal of stigma is a common phenomenon among minority groups. That doesn’t mean it’s okay to use the term when you’re not part of the group.

abfarid ,
@abfarid@startrek.website avatar

Reverse Pinocchio?

Assman ,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

I was gonna send this to my wife but he wouldn’t get the joke

PenisDuckCuck9001 ,

Eeeww girls with vaginas 🤮🤮🤮🤮

BFG9000 ,

Gaaaaaaaaaaaay

icdmize ,

I like to call them, “vintage women.”

Zwiebel ,

Referring to a crossdresser as trap ✅
Referring to a trans person as trap ❌

surewhynotlem ,

Referring to Admiral Ackbar as trap 😱

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