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mvirts ,

Kde connect all day erry day

Jumuta ,

kde connect and syncthing both just work, and it’s amazing

Duamerthrax ,

I haven’t been able to get Syncthing permissions to work. The frustrating thing for me with Android has always been inconsistencies between vendors and weird permissions issues.

ogeist ,

Localsend is also a thing

ChilledPeppers ,

Came here to say this

TheFonz ,

It times out for me every time. After ten or so files just gives up.

OfficerBribe ,

It is alright, but SFTP transfer broke for me some time ago. I think it is related to changes in Android, but surprisingly there were not a lot of posts about this issue last I searched. Using Android 13 / Samsung One UI 5.1 with Windows 11.

Ghoelian ,

I use Material Files (from f-droid) as my default file manager, which includes support for mounting FTP, SFTP, SMB, and webdav shares. It doesn’t handle the connection getting interrupted very well, so if that happens i have to restart the app. Other than that it’s been working great for my SMB share.

franklin ,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

Syncthing is amazing though.

renzev OP ,

It’s pretty good. Definitely better then self-hosted stuff like nextcloud, because you don’t need to maintain your own server. But sometimes it takes a while for two hosts to discover each other on the same local area network.

untorquer ,

I’ve never noticed any delay after first discovery. But i only use 3 devices so 🤷

Ghoelian ,

I think they’re both good for different use-cases. I use nextcloud myself on a truenas system. I sync things like my pictures to nextcloud, and delete them from my phone after I’ve sorted them into the correct folders.

This way my data isn’t clogging up my phone and other things, is still available from anywhere (as long as my home internet doesn’t go down), and it’s still safely stored on redundant storage.

This does take a bit more setting up than something like syncthing, though it wasn’t very difficult at all. Basically install the docker image, tell it where my data goes, and set up a new dns record if you want it publicly accessible. I personally run it through a zerotier network so I don’t have to do that.

TheImpressiveX ,
@TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml avatar

Randall Munroe shows us how it’s done:

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/0220a859-ecea-476a-8176-5e665d8f1483.png

Every time you email a file to yourself so you can pull it up on your friend’s laptop, Tim Berners-Lee sheds a single tear.

tobogganablaze ,

Or just use a USB cable.

renzev OP , (edited )

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/df1e7c92-5ef0-4f10-9ea2-0fcd7d02cd67.webp

For phone-to-computer it works fine. But double-sided boi will still win if you need to send files to a dumber device like a printer – those don’t typically support MTP or whatever iphones use. Unless you have an ancient android phone that gives full block-level access to the internal storage/microsd card through usb cable lol. I really miss that feature.

steersman2484 ,

I just add the printer on my phone and print over the network

saltesc ,

So many people on here always talking about printing stuff in 2024. Is everyone a lawyer?

tourist ,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

Some banks and other places like that still require physical documents for stuff like proof of address, affidavits etc.

Even though they’re going to fucking scan it into pdf anyway

I use my printer to print silly stickers, because I am a manchild, but I don’t think I am using the correct ink or paper, because they fade very quickly and smudge sometimes.

Also use it to print graph paper to doodle on.

DakRalter ,
@DakRalter@thelemmy.club avatar

What type of printer/paper do you use? I find cheap photo paper works well for high res on my inkjet, although it can fade if you leave it in the sun. I’ve been using vinyl sticker sheets for customising my bike and it seems to be holding well, but I did laminate them with sticky back plastic first.

There’s also the sellotape trick, but that only works for laser printers and you obviously can’t print white.

tourist ,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

The printer is the cheapest canon inkjet printer I could find new in 2021. I don’t have access to the exact model name rn

I think I have glossy photo paper. I also had a few sheets of postcard size sticker paper that was not glossy and didn’t fade, but I recall it being stupid expensive, or that specific brand at least. I cannot remember the name. Would not survive the elements though.

I thought about laminating it but I wasn’t sure if the heat would fuck the adhesive

Honytawk ,

I transfer data by printing it and then scanning it when I get to the location.

I just like the artefacts it leaves behind.

If it is anything other than text or a photo, I compile the file into a QR code and print that.

A Windows 10 installation iso is about 1499639 QR codes

Ghoelian ,

Couldn’t you, theoretically, create one massive QR code containing all that data? You’d need a massive camera sensor to get the resolution required to actually decode it though.

CapeWearingAeroplane ,

I can’t post my memes on the much room bulletin board for everyone to see unless I print them :/

Fisch ,
@Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

No, I just live in Germany

MudMan ,

Wait, what feature? You can't access the phone's storage? I'm pretty sure I can access my phone's storage.

renzev OP ,

Old android phones used to emulate a USB mass storage device when you would connect them. To the computer, the phone would appear as a usb stick. Modern android phones, on the other hand, use a protocol called MTP (Mobile Transfer Protocol), which is completely its own thing.

The reason they switched to MTP is that the old approach gave the computer complete control over the phone’s storage; the phone would become completely unusable while connected in this way, and would just display a “connected via usb” splash screen. With MTP, the phone continues to be usable while connected via USB. But it has the downside that MTP is a much less widespread protocol than USB mass storage. On personal computers it should “just work”, but on stuff like printers it might not.

Personally, I think they should bring back USB mass storage emulation as an optional feature. Heck, it can still be done, but you need to compile your own android ROM with usb mass storage drivers, which I’m not nearly skilled enough to do.

MudMan ,

Old USB implementation used to be a finicky nightmare, though. You make it sound like it wasn't changed for a reason, MTP connectivity on Android as it is now is so much more functional, as well as safer.

In any case, that solves the misunderstanding. I thought you meant you couldn't directly access phone storage anymore, which isn't the case.

The printer scenario seems like an edge case to me. I mean, MTP has been the default for what? Over a decade? If you have a recent printer you're probably fine (also, it probably has wifi and a dedicated mobile app or at least enough third party support to be used from your phone regardless). If your printer is older than that you're probably better served by going through your PC first anyway. Sure, you don't get direct USB access to printing photos, but now we're talking about a very specific feature that was in use for a very specific sliver of time, and it requires you to be tethered to a device anyway. I don't think that's enough to justify legacy storage support on phones.

renzev OP ,

Sure, you don’t get direct USB access to printing photos, but now we’re talking about a very specific feature that was in use for a very specific sliver of time, and it requires you to be tethered to a device anyway. I don’t think that’s enough to justify legacy storage support on phones.

Yeah, fair enough.

Jimbo ,
@Jimbo@yiffit.net avatar

Yeah, double sided boi looks like a great way to ruin your phone charging port if you don’t have a usb slot pointing straight up

Tangent5280 ,

I dont think you’re supposed to connect to both devices at the same time.

tostiman ,
@tostiman@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh, it’s a USB stick. I thought it worked like a cable.

Wilzax ,

Cable with a really big delay but a REALLY big buffer

Evil_Shrubbery ,

IR data connection.

Print out on paper & scan it into the computer.

Copy the data into the computer in binary with an electron gun directly to SSD.

Recreate the data from scratch.

Install desktop os onto your phone & use it as your main rig to eliminate the need to transfer data in the first place.

Use an USB cable to connect the phone to a floppy drive & copy the data to floppy discs. And enjoy the asmr sounds as you do so.

Bluetooth if all else fails, but using a2dp dial-up frequencies.

Accept that there is no convenient way to transfer data & just live without it.

Natanael ,

There’s gigabit IrDA these days FYI, if you can find the adapters…

DaCrazyJamez ,

Place phone on scanner and scan each screen

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

https://infosec.pub/pictrs/image/7dabc9ac-138a-4237-be8d-fe2c7aa63278.jpeg

Scubus ,

Take your phones hard drive out and add it as an external hard drive

Crafter72 , (edited )
@Crafter72@lemmy.world avatar

github.com/localsend/localsend

I used localsend on desktop, laptop and my phones to sync stuffs between OSes and phones. What I likes is that it support multiplatform out of the box and works flawlessly between Windows, Android and Linux distros (tried both on Ubuntu, and LM without problem). It’s just SHAREit without any stupid weird stuffs on it.

Swemg ,

This is the shit

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

Can you not just plug your phone into your computer, and then use your computer’s file manager to drag it from your phone to your computer? It’s this not a thing anymore?

Why the extra step of writing it to thumb drive?

todd_bonzalez ,

These are the people who take screenshots with their phone cameras.

OP is just revealing that they don’t understand device-to-device file transfers.

olutukko ,

remember when it was somehow trendy to take a picture with snapchat and the screenshot it to it shows the tools on right and post that on instagram? that shit was stupid as hell

explodicle ,

I still do that all the time. I work with a bunch of different computers and it’s easier than sending a file or writing the info down.

I get that there’s device to device file transfers, but it’s slower, and other employees would undoubtedly fill my phone with garbage screenshots, if not virus furry porn.

kungen ,

Maybe not trusting their computer having full access to their phone’s files?

Takumidesh ,

That’s not a USB drive, it’s an adapter.

majestictechie ,

I would do this before using a double sided USB

Sam_Bass ,

I usually just plug my phone directly into the pc and copy the file directly

pyre ,

me too. the double sided thing looks awkward.

there’s also localsend if you prefer over wifi for any reason

tuoret ,

Someone pointed out it’s actually a usb stick with two different ends, which sounds pretty neat. I also thought it was like a cable without the actual cable part so your phone would just be dangling there awkwardly

pyre ,

oh that makes more sense, yeah it looks like an adapter which feels terrible to use. but also if you need a quick transfer, doing it over a cable or wifi is still better since you only copy once that way.

kamen , (edited )

Syncthing ftw. As soon as I plug my phone into a charger, it starts syncing everything to my NAS. Even if it’s not charging, I can override the rule and force it to sync.

JackbyDev ,

The amount of times sending myself an email is still the quickest thing is insane. Sure I could try to use notion or keep to send myself some random string of text but am I logged in on my desktop? Idk. Just use email.

Also there are so many things like air drop, nfc, etc, but so many of them are so specific to certain devices. Maybe one day we’ll figure this out lol

Pika ,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

I use KDE connect…

But my grandfather does the ol reliable method for image upload, which is:

  1. emails it to himself
  2. prints the email off
  3. scans the printout into his computer again
  4. uploads image to faceboom Facebook

I typo’d Facebook originally but thay was too good to get rid of so I just strikethrough’d it

Lemminary ,

scans the printout into his computer again

Your grandpa got the memo that inhales IT NEEDS MORE JPEG! And took it one step further.

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Sounds eerily similar to what my mom does to save receipts, minus the facebook part

lengau ,

KDE Connect or Nextcloud. My phone has USB 2, but I can easily top 1 Gbit/s over wifi.

Yerbouti ,

Nextcloud “Carnet” is the solution I had been waiting for for years. Instant uploads to my instance, I can access the files from any computer. Boom.

RomenNarmo ,

Kde Connect

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

its amazing how its generally easier to transfer sonething to a server a country over for it to then reach the other device. instead of it going directly over local network speeds.

also how its much easier to backup to google than to you own computer thats right there.

RaoulDook ,

It’s really not if you have the right setup at home, instead of using somebody else’s servers. Like nobody has a NAS or their own servers?

It’s much nicer not worrying about who can get to my files in the cloud, when they’re not in the cloud.

EvacuateSoul ,

I do, but I VPN in, so it would be a pain to talk someone through that and send them their key.

todd_bonzalez ,

Not a single network file transfer protocol in the list.

Imagine not knowing about stuff like SCP/SFTP or SMB.

Cryophilia ,

Pfft I’ve bet you’ve never even tried cross-pollinating a syncmap blockchain to your distributed SM-IP 42G node

Noob

Ghoelian ,

I’m pretty sure the average user doesn’t even know what a “server” really is, let alone know how to set up an FTP server.

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