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OldWoodFrame ,

I always thought it would be funny to argue against the religious right that life begins before conception, and conception is a meaningless marker on the way to being a baby just like “viability” was.

But it doesn’t seem as funny these days.

Cort ,

It kinda does if you believe in reincarnation. As I understood it you get to pick your parents before you’re conceived.

OldWoodFrame ,

Or if you just believe everything is pre-ordained. The argument to the religious right is that if God is omniscient, then He knows which sperm will hit the egg, so 1 second prior to conception is exactly the same as conception in terms of the odds a given sperm or egg becomes a baby. And 1 second prior to that, and 1 second prior to that, all the way back to Adam and Eve.

So even if conception is when the baby is “ensouled” (hundreds of years ago they thought “the quickening” when the mother first felt the baby kick was when it got ensouled so that choice is arbitrary but whatever if it’s a religious tenet I don’t want to go against it) it’s not meaningfully impacting whether or not an ensouled baby is born any more than birth itself is.

It’s all shades of gray all the way down, there is no morally “correct” hard line.

WeirdGoesPro , (edited )
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

As someone who has had a bizarre life so far, I think the argument for self determined reincarnation is a good one—I’m the only entity I know with a sick enough sense of humor to write the conditions of my life, and I have more belief that I exist than in the existence of a sky puppeteer.

I’m a one degree of separation hinge between the White House, a crack house, and a nudist tree house, and I’m not even Hunter Biden. Only I would have done this to me.

Furbag ,

and a nudist tree house

You have my full and undivided attention.

WeirdGoesPro ,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I moved there and let my car be broken for a year as a strategy to recover from heroin addiction. I’m glad to say it worked. Never underestimate the power of nudists with hula-hoops for encouraging good clean fun.

This was after attending the White House Christmas party, and before joining two cults.

I barely understand it myself. I am not Forrest Gump. The ride is still in progress.

CaptainMcMonkey ,

Yes, life begins at inception. When the idea to have sex with someone blossoms in your mind, the resulting child now has a soul.

tubaruco ,

what happened? is there another one of those prophecies that say someone will be born and be the next king or what

TexMexBazooka ,

Christians making life worse for everyone by pushing their irrational fascist beliefs

AeonFelis ,

washingtonpost.com/…/alabama-supreme-court-embryo…

Akasazh , (edited )
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

this is in my head ever since reading about this, it remains strange to see reality surpassing satire

Dagwood222 ,

2016 has entered the chat…

After Trump was elected there was a panel discussion with the creators of all the top political TV shows. The West Wing; Veep; Scandal; and all the rest. Every writer said the same thing. If they’d had a character who had said all the things Trump said, the networks and advertisers would have demanded that character be thrown out the next week.

Akasazh ,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

Yeah, hence me using the word ‘remains’.

Dagwood222 ,

Did someone say ‘remains…?’

youtu.be/vOGhAV-84iI

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

With the gauntlet on? That’s gonna chafe.

AlexJD ,

The hardest choices require the strongest wills

TakiMinase ,

There’s lube for that, Morey’s EP2

FrostyCaveman ,

sorry babe, infinity gauntlet stays ON during sex

Blackmist ,

Don’t kink shame me.

Tangent5280 ,

I’m OOTL, what is this referencing?

toxicbubble ,

frozen embryos are now considered children in Alabama and cannot be destroyed

Thegods14 ,

They’re so fucking stupid it’s getting fucking annoying.

zcd ,

This isn’t even their final form yet

ma11en ,

A power cut could cause mass murder, who’d be responsible?

doctordevice ,

Well, it is canon that the Abrahamic god kills children en masse sometimes. He does love a good genocide.

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Do you suppose it could be called infanticide, as humans are “His children”?

tourist ,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

Can you drive a few miles out of state and thundercunt em into a landfill?

chatokun ,

There is a legal concern about that so some IVF places are halting transporting across state lines while their lawyers review. People are making “trafficking” jokes already.

Smc87 ,

Is thisc good or not

toxicbubble ,

nothing good comes from Alabama

spicytuna62 ,
@spicytuna62@lemmy.world avatar

But Alabama the band is pretty great, and I don’t even like country music.

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