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dab ,
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I’d take the Jeep, two man tent, German Shepard, and CB radio. Might as well go on a roadtrip and treat the zombie outbreak like one long vacation.

majestic ,

Pills…

A person like me would never survive in this env

RealFknNito ,
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First Aid Kit - Zombies are dangerous but so are infections from minor cuts and lacerations. Gotta prep for the unexpected.

Machete - Most effective and common sense weapon as all the others require some level of skill or maintenance and only the machete would be good at making pointy sticks for improvised spears.

NVGs - Something people forget about is that when the power goes out you’re going to be looting some dark ass buildings even during the daytime. Stock up some batteries or a charger and looting just got so much simpler. Plus, if you hear a bump in the night, you can go looking for it without letting the neighborhood know where you are, like with a flashlight.

Water purifier - You can go approximately 3 days without water and the pipes stop working when the electricity does. That river and lake isn’t safe to drink, neither is the rainwater, and do you really want to whip out your firekit and draw attention just for sippy sips?

Boring picks but I think these are the biggest bang for your buck. Everything else will take so much just to maintain that it isn’t worth it. Including doggo.

galloog1 ,

See, light and water I can make/clean myself. I’d replace them with one of the firearms to counter other humans and maybe the dog for danger detection.

RealFknNito ,
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Ah but see, a firearm requires cleaning, oil, and ammunition. The suppressed sidearm will lure in your neighborhood while anything unsuppressed is going to call everything within 8 blocks right to you. Dog is a mouth to feed, mess to clean, and is also loud unless you’ve trained them very, very well. Making light isn’t hard but everyone can see light - including zombies. NVGs are just for you. Water you can clean yourself but I assume you mean boiling which would need a fire… and everyone can see the light and smoke.

galloog1 ,

You only use the firearm if you need it. If you need it, you really want it.

There’s a lot of heating solutions in the world that do not involve fire and even so, plenty of ways to do light sanitation exist.

A lot of these are highly contextual in terms of the type of outbreak and individual skills but I think my options give more flexibility overall for me personally.

RealFknNito ,
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I suppose but for me I wouldn’t want to waste a pick on something I’d use for extreme cases. Sure it’ll help in a bind but I’d rather prep to not be in that bind to begin with.

Everything changes with context but I made my picks with “The Walking Dead” scenario in mind. They all walk, everyone’s infected, it only takes effect if you die with your brain intact, they roam in hordes. But hey, we may never know and it’s probably for the best.

RIP_Cheems ,
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Why not the fire axe? I don’t think it would be that difficult to swing. Granted, it would be much heavier than a machete, but long term the axe is gonna last longer and dull slower.

emberwit ,

Also might come in handy as a tool in more ways than the machete. Open doors, smash windows, chop firewood and you’d probably still manage to sharpen some sticks with it. As a weapon I do not think that a machete is easier to use without any training.

RealFknNito ,
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Fire Axe requires you to be pretty dead on with every swing. You miss or misalign the edge coming down and it bounces off their skull. They feel nothing and now you’ve got to lift up that axe for another swing. You’ll tire yourself out pretty quickly but if the edge lasts long enough I suppose it could be used to make spears as well. Spears, even just makeshift ones from sticks, are light and if you miss it’s almost effortless to get another go at it.

bi_tux ,
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On the other hand one supermarket probably has enougth packed water for years

qyron ,

Which has a shelf life.

My partner worked at a water bottling station and they kept a “dead archive” of production for quality control: dark, cool room, away from machinery and chemicals.

Archived samples were cleared after 5 years. Out of curiosity, they decided to try the water before emptying the bottles and it was foul. Blamed on too long storage time.

When the plant shut down, the archive was fully cleared and samples older than 6 months were drinkable but not pleasant to, older than a year tasted bad.

Water does not stock well and even worse when exposed to sun light.

RealFknNito ,
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Absolutely the last place you’d ever want to be. Everyone loots stores, it’s safer to loot locally first. Best case scenario everything is cleaned out. Worst case, you find other people. Or other “people”.

figjam ,

No bicycle?

pandarang ,
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Pistol.

End of list.

PeterPoopshit , (edited )

I would opt for the crossbow, machete and axe then use those to commendeer better equipment. Specifically that choice of weapons because axe is useful for chopping trees, machete is a weapon that doesn’t require ammo and it’s a lot easier to make crossbow arrows than bullets. Also take the night vision goggles in the off chance they’re the super high tech kind and not the ir lighting based kind because you’ll never just “find” one of those otherwise. Then use that stuff to basically steal everything on this list and more.

hakunawazo ,
Modern_medicine_isnt ,

Since you can easily scavange most of these things you only need the hard to find stuff, and stuff that will help you scavange. So body armor and the ak to keep you alive. Axe to help get into places for supplies. Jeep to haul your shit. Drive down to dicks and load up on the rest.

Long term you need a spear and knife for weapons. A horse and cart for hauling shit. Dog for guard duty. And ways to get water and food.

Ookami38 ,

Jeep: unparalleled utility. It’ll die eventually, fuel is finite, but it’ll let me establish.

Shotgun: need a weapon, and while not the strategically beat weapon, I have an image to maintain.

Water purifier: water.

Machete: backup weapon, infinitely useful tool, more rugged than the katana.

I think this combination gives me a good shot at establishing a base of operations, securing the area, and settling for long-term. Between the jeep and the machete, most obstacles can be overcome, and scavenging is easier and quicker. Strategically, the crossbow is probably the best weapon just due to the reusability of the ammunition, but it’s not infinite and what you gain in that, you lose in ease of use, which is paramount in a stressful situation. Opting purely for usefulness, the pistol (assuming subsonic rounds and as quiet as possible) probably offers the best balance between reliability and forgivingness, but I like shotguns.

Water purifier is a pretty easy one. Gotta have water, and while most of that will come from rain or scavenging, there will inevitably be periods of literal draught. Finally, the machete. A knife, a backup weapon, a crowbar. Good for clearing small-medium vegetation. Honestly, the uses are limitless, perhaps second only to the jeep.

Honorable mentions:

Dog. If it’s pre-trained, top tier. If you have to train it, mid at best plus another mouth to feed.

Any other firearm: mostly preference, each has pros and cons

Body armor: depending on the zombies, top tier (walking dead style, feral gonna bite you zombies) or reeeally not useful (anything spread by spores, fumes, fluids, etc.)

Gas mask: invert the body armor.

Motorcycle: quicker, less utility than Jeep. I wouldn’t say it’s the worst pick

Everything else is either marginal utility at best (cb radio, NV goggles) or easy enough to scavenge (flashlight, first aid supplies, tent, honestly everything else on the list.)

Something_Complex ,

Bro, it’s a zombie apocalypse, you can just walk outside and steal any car you feel like

olutukko ,

You will still need keys or a really old car that you can actually turn on with wires

Something_Complex ,

I’ll just search appartmenta with my body armour,my dog and an ax for a some keys. When I find them I go outside and do that thing we do when we forgot where we parked in a large parking lot

Peppycito ,

It says outbreak, not apocalypse. They’ll still expect you to come in to work.

AnarchistsForDemocracy ,
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They’ll still expect you to come in to work.

🤣 😂 😭

beerclue ,

Project Zomboid players be like: where’s the crowbar?

But if I had to choose, the body armor, machete, fire axe, and the mighty katana.

PS: in my current PZ playthrough, 3 months and 5k kills in, and just found my very first katana. (lowest loot setting, highest zombie pop).

altima_neo ,
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Yeah I’ll just take:

Fire axe, fire axe, duffel bag, lock pick

Adalast ,

I thought the fire axe was a lock pick?

bi_tux ,
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Idk about you guys, but you are legally required to have a first aid kit in your car where live, so there are plenty to salvage same is for water, there are tons of water bottles, that don’t go bad in the supermarket and your water purifier is gonna break at some point, so you’ll have to move to alcohol anyway.

Filthmontane ,

I live in Florida and I’m pretty sure they consider first aid part of the woke agenda.

Armageddon ,

I live in a small town in Florida, can confirm

Longmactoppedup ,

Chainsaw Body armour Mask Shotgun

doomguy

Kolanaki ,
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I wanna know what kind of zombies I’ll be dealing with. Slow shamblers? Fast runners? Intelligent undead?

RizzRustbolt ,

Jimmy Buffet fans.

Tyfud ,

The worst kind of Zombie.

Kolanaki ,
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Unfortunately, copious amounts of alcohol isn’t in the selectable item pool, so I might as well take one of the guns to mercy kill myself so as not to suffer too long.

Glemek ,

Crossbow, respirator, fire axe, water purifier.

Crossbow can reuse ammunition as long as you can find your bolts, and improvising shitty bolts is simpler than anyvother ranged weapon.

If zombie plague is airborne, full mask respirator is gonna be essential.

Fire axe is a decent survival and breaching tool, not really considering it a weapon.

Water purifier essential so you don’t die of dysentery, or if the zombie plague is waterborne.

GBU_28 ,

If it’s airborne you’re toast, you gotta remove it eventually

Glemek ,

It being airborne doesn’t mean its in all air everywhere all the time.

GBU_28 ,

Right but you don’t know the patterns, incredibly variable. Taking the mask to win on that condition is a total dice roll

Glemek ,

Its a contingency, but if you need it, you really need it. I think I’d otherwise be fine with the other 3. My next choices are probably tent, body armor, first aid kit, flashlight, then NVGs.

A tent would be useful, but tents are super common, I can probably loot one from somewhere. My current neck of the woods it wouldn’t really be necessary though.

Body armor might help if I get surprised by one or two zombies and let me get away, but I reeeeally don’t want to be in melee with zombies. Even with body armor that could easily be a loss, especially if its not just one or two.

First aid kit is useful, but unless a tourniquet can prevent zombification, its mostly gonna be for mundane stuff, blisters, scrapes, strains, and sprains. They are also commonly available and should be lootable. If not, most of its contents are probably improvise-able.

Flashlight, genuinely useful but probably lootable, reliant on electricity, probably draws unwanted attention.

NVGs, are cool and probably slightly useful. Going on the offensive against either zombies or other survivors is not in my game plan, I guess they could help hunt.

All these seem to be somewhat limited in their utility. Whereas the respirator is either vital, or a light encumberance.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
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How many goodboyes can I pick?

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