I never use a password manager and a tablet so I can’t comment on those, but for everything else, what kind of devices do you have to run into those problems? Even my shitty laptop from 2016 that is on live support can run Firefox without issues. Are yours from the last century or something?
And “FF on Android keeps refreshing pages when changing tabs”? Dude, that’s called resource management, even Brave and Chrome do that if you have 20 tabs opened, you expect a damn phone to be as powerful as a normal average freaking PC?
Even my shitty laptop from 2016 that is on live support can run Firefox without issues. Are yours from the last century or something?
2018 i7 Zenbook with 24GB of ram. Of course it “runs” Firefox all fine, but it’s just these little things that force me to switch back to Chrome because I encounter small, but key issues which make me unable to continue working in it
And “FF on Android keeps refreshing pages when changing tabs”? Dude, that’s called resource management, even Brave and Chrome do that if you have 20 tabs opened, you expect a damn phone to be as powerful as a normal average freaking PC?
I have 8 gigs of ram on my phone so I wouldn’t expect this to happen with just 2 tabs open especially since Chrome does not do that, at least not every time I switch between tabs, even within seconds.
Don’t get me wrong, I understand how shitty it is for Google to monopolise the internet and web market and I would love to be able to permanently switch to Firefox, but let’s stop acting like Firefox is perfect, because it just isn’t. Sure, neither is Chrome, it has its issues beside privacy as well, but all in all performance- and usability-wise Firefox is just inferior.
I have 2 laptops with 8GB of ram each, a PC with 16GB and a phone with 6GB and non of them has problems, I even have 10 tabs open on my phone and non of them refreshes unless I manually do it. I haven’t run into a single issue with FF on any of my devices for my 3 years of using it. Just what kinds of bloatware do you have running in the background to run into those problems?
I mean, if gold is massively devalued. Don’t think it’d ever be worth less than leaves, but given its actual useful properties (as opposed to its arbitrary use as a currency) gold’s value should be a lot lower than it is.
Vivaldi uses about half the RAM of FF when I have equivalent tabs open and running/idling.
Of course I have to have an ad blocker installed on FF whereas Vivaldi just does it natively, so that might be causing the difference in memory.
Here come all the anti chromium bois with "tHeReS nO wAy vivALdi bLoCkS aDs aS gOoD as u BlOcK oRiGin!‘’
To that I say… Have you ever fucking tried it? Lol I’ve tried both side by side, don’t argue unless you’ve actually done so as well. V’s ad blocking didn’t break when Manifest V3 dropped and until it stops being as good or better than UBO I’m just gonna keep using it. When that day happens, well like I said I’ve already got FF up and running anyways.
For daily usage, and as long as you use uBlock Origin, Firefox has been perfect for me for the past 10 years. I don’t understand those who complain about it.
Does the 34 and 20 represent the number of tabs? If so, this is not a fair comparison, what with FF having 50% more open. But even if that number doesn’t represent tabs, I am sure there can be websites that would put them much closer in performance.
Right now I have Chrome on my work machine. It has a 14 (again, not sure if those are active tabs or not) and it is eating 1.17 GB on my work machine. On my home FF (24) is eating 1.60 GB of RAM. FF is clearly using more RAM in each case, but it isn’t slowing my desktop down any more than Chrome is on my work machine. I’d like for it to improve, but rather use something other than Google’s tools on every single machine I use, I guess.
Yes, more or less. I think some other extensions can take up processes too.
I actually have enough RAM and I’m glad that the RAM is being used to load all the stuff instead of the pagefile. It’s my fault that I’m not closing stuff, not the browser’s for not guessing what I’m going to re-load.
If you ask people, I think they’ll just say that their main browser is like that. And that’ll apply to all of them, so it’s a user problem.
I remember these talks from a very long time ago. Very long time, when Opera had its own engine and before. I think the gaps have shrunk a lot, especially now that Internet Exploder is gone.
I have 15 extensions running on my 8GB work laptop and there is little to no difference from my 16GB PC battle station at home. And I have like 4 more apps run alongside 10 tabs of FF at work, way more than what I would ever open at home
It doesn’t have to be Chromium, but asserting that Firefox is the only browser that respects your privacy is just untrue. Edit: I use FF and Brave for different browsing, as some websites just don’t like FF.
I don’t specifically mean the goDaddy site, I mean some sites that have gotten there certs from goDaddy won’t work. It will give an ssl error. I believe it is their wildcard cert specifically.
As far as I can tell there isn’t actually that much? The only instance that really hosts it front and center is lemmyNSFW, and thats pretty small compared to most other spots
God, I wish there was less monopolies in the world, I hate when there is no alternative other than a product developed and maintained by evil corporation that profits off of selling my data.
Anyway, the only browser that everyone should use is Chrome, if you don’t use Chrome you’re dead to me.
Pleading ignorance here and genuine questions. Is anyone, within the context of browsers able to define privacy and what it is that FF does that is superior to other say, Chromium based browsers? And what the real world effects are of not using FF for the purpose of privacy? Either reply or point to sources on the Web would be much appreciated.
As I understand it, you can make a Chromium browser just as privacy friendly as Firefox. I use Vivaldi on my home PC and mobile which is strongly privacy focused and has a ton of small QoL features neither Chrome nor Firefox has (I use both at work, prefer FF over Chrome). (Going off the tangent here) for example, it's incredibly easy to re-open recently closed tabs in Vivaldi with just two clicks—a feature I use all the time—as the recently closed tabs list is very obvious and easy to access in the tab bar itself without the need to futz around in the menus to find browsing history. The customizable speed dial, sidebar menu for things like bookmarks and downloads are really nice and the download manager in Vivaldi is IMO better than FF, too.
The bigger problem is Google having defacto monopoly over browser market and thus having too much influence over how web standards work and how the user can browse the web (I'm old enough to remember "This web page is best viewed on Internet Explorer" messages on websites). The move to manifest v3 to curb content blockers is one such example.
Thanks for your reply. I am a Vivaldi user myself currently after trying numerous browsers over the years. I was trying to reconcile in my mind what am I giving up in terms of privacy for my choice. I do tend to lean on and learn from other more knowledgeable myself. I do have a few privacy related extensions installed. But you touch on something there that extends further than personal privacy but Googles influence on web standards, good one.
Chrome is run by an ad company with a vested interest in your data and has been outspoken about banning adblockers in the past.
Firefox is a completely open source project run by a non-profit organisation who accepts donations to cover costs.
Other Chromium-based browsers can generally be fine but the overuse of chromium reinforces web standards that are hard to reproduce. A web browser is a fairly complex beast these days even for the best programmers. Just see XMPP for an example of where things could lead to.
While it’s true that Firefox receives some of those donations from Google for being the default search engine, they have no influence over decisions made by the Firefox team whatsoever. That’s the short version of it.
Just mine around the edge and make sure you catch all the blocks so they don’t fall on the pressure plate at the bottom. You can mine out the reassure plate when you get down there, and the tnt! Good luck with the loot, hope you get some cool trims! Pretty sure Notch apples can still spawn down there as well!
The pyramids have stone pressure plates, which are only set off by mobs and players. However, wooden pressure plates are activated by other things too such as items and fired arrows
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