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zephr_c , in We love our new Democratic Nominee, Don't We Folks?

I mean, I’m not in love with the ex-cop who was chosen to be VP because she was the only Democrat more conservative than Biden, but this has more to do with Trump’s ideological inconsistency than Kamala Harris’s.

UnderpantsWeevil OP ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

she was the only Democrat more conservative than Biden

You can talk a lot of shit about Kamala, but she’s proven time and again to be a standard-issue California liberal Democrat. She’s right in line with Gruesome Newsome, Eric Adams, and Tim Kaine. If you want to see what a conservative dem looks like, check out Joe Manchin as he tries to weasel his way back into the party before the convention. Or Michael Bloomberg, the guy who was hosting the fucking RNC in New York and glad-handing Bush Jr back in 2004. Or Andrew Yang, a man who never saw a crypto-scam he wouldn’t shill for.

If you’ve got beef with Kamala, you’ve got beef with the mainstream liberalism of the Democratic Party. And that’s fine.

Trump’s ideological inconsistency

One of the reasons Trump was able to move so fluidly between mid-'00s New York Democrats and mid-'10s South Carolina Republicans stems from the fact that America is choke full of fascists. I don’t find his ideology to be particularly inconsistent. The dude’s always had a hard-on for Mussolini and a hate-on for anyone browner than milk. What’s benefited him is a mass media that fixates on his wealth and treats him like a celebrity, while providing zero resistence to his endless lying and bullying.

zephr_c ,

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I meant the only Democratic candidate in the 2020 primaries that was more conservative than Biden. I agree they’re both very mainstream middle of the road liberals. That was me not being careful with my language.

UnderpantsWeevil OP ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

the only Democratic candidate in the 2020 primaries that was more conservative than Biden

Tim Ryan, Steve Bullock, and John Delaney were more conservative in every meaningful respect. You can blame that on their constituencies (although Delaney really has no excuse - the man’s just a corporate freak) but they’re all both more economically and socially to the right on the generic basket of liberal policies. And none of them are going to lose to Copmala in a cop-loving contest. It will, at best, be a photo finish.

That’s before you get to the Bloomberg or Tulsi Gabbard, and they’re not even cops. Just straight up fascists.

imPastaSyndrome ,

Also just fucking insane

zephr_c ,

Oh god, I had somehow blocked Bloomberg and Tulsi Gabbard out of my brain. Yeah, that was a pretty big oversight on my part. And yeah, I wasn’t counting the other people who dropped out before the primaries got started, which is kind of unfair. Fine. She’s just a Democrat that’s slightly more conservative than Biden. Are you happy now?

UnderpantsWeevil OP ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

She’s just a Democrat that’s slightly more conservative than Biden. Are you happy now?

No. Because her voting history and her time as AG simply don’t reflect that. Whatever you might say about Harris, Biden quite literally wrote the laws and funneled money into the agencies that let her chase around the poor and defenseless. In a different world, where a more Kennedy/LBJ-esque figure was in Biden’s seat, Harris would have been granted a completely different mandate and toolkit and would have looked comparatively progressive as a result.

That’s before you get into the real awful shit Biden passed as Senator that Harris has (without much conviction) opposed. She’s been a vote for de-militarization in Iraq/Afghanistan, for decriminalization of a host of drugs, and for expanded public spending in health care and education in a way Biden simply hasn’t.

She still sucks for a host of reasons. But to claim she’s “more conservative than Biden” ignores Biden’s entire time in the Senate under Bush and Kamala’s entire time in the Senate under Trump.

zephr_c ,

Pfft. The idea that Kamala Harris wouldn’t have voted the same way as Biden on Iraq and Afganistan if she had been in Congress back in 2001 is so naive that I can’t even take anything else you said seriously. That is hilarious.

UnderpantsWeevil OP ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

The idea that Kamala Harris wouldn’t have voted the same way as Biden on Iraq and Afganistan

The AUMF of 2001 (Afghanistan) passed the Senate 98-0 with two abstentions from Senators Larry Craig, R-ID, and Jesse Helms, R-NC. Every Senate Dem supported it.

The 2002 extension passed 77-23 with the California Senate delegation splitting (Feinstein for, Boxer against). Harder to say what Kamala would have done here, but she had ample room to reject the legislation without fearing it would fail.

Regardless, it has been freely utilized and repeatedly defended by both parties with every new NDAA, excepting a failed repeal effort by the Senate in 2023 which Kamala endorsed to no ultimate effect.

I can’t even take anything else you said seriously

That’s going to require some actual knowledge of history and the state of the party past and present.

If you’re just running on vibes, idk what to tell you.

Cleverdawny ,

because she was the only Democrat more conservative than Biden

Biden is a middle of the road Democrat. I could probably come up with 200 or so living Democrats with experience as a state governor or a federal representative more conservative than him. Any member of the Blue Dog Caucus, for instance.

Harris is also middle of the road

zephr_c ,

You could have read my response to the other person who told me the same thing before spamming me, you know.

Cleverdawny ,

Touchy, aren’t you

zephr_c ,

Well, what else do you want me to say? Do you want me to just type out the same response over and over? What do you even want out of me?

Hegar ,
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Not engaging and instead just letting readers see your other response would've been the classier move.

zephr_c ,

I have been called many things throughout my life. Some of them were even good. Classy has never once been one of them.

UnderpantsWeevil OP ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Biden is a middle of the road Democrat.

Biden only wasn’t in the Blue Dog caucus because he was a Senator and that caucus was for House Reps. He’s been an annoying “compromise” vote since the Reagan Era, and played a big role in defanging Dem efforts to filibuster GOP SCOTUS nominees during Reagan, Bush Sr, and Bush Jr. He’s also the author of a host of truly awful legislation - the '94 Crime Bill, the '96 Telecom Act, and the '02 Patriot Act just to name a few.

Harris hasn’t been around nearly long enough to get her hands dirty. And where she has voted, she’s been slightly to the left of the center of the pack (of consistently right-leaning Senate Democrats). That puts her conservative relative to the median voting Democrat but progressive relative to the median elected Democrat.

MelodiousFunk , in Mario for president

While I agree that Mario would be a better choice than what we currently have, he’s basically unelectable. His residence in the Mushroom Kingdom, ethnic accent, and the considerable amount of skeletons in his closet would be a buffet for the corpo media empires.

Caboose12000 , in Make new friends today!

I dont get it

MelodiousFunk OP ,

Neither do I.

I saved this picture close to 20 years ago, just because it was ridiculous. I’ve always wondered, “What the everloving fuck is going on here?” And I’ve never come up with an answer. But last night, in a state of what I suspect was hypomania, I decided that now is the time for it to shine once again.

tfw_no_toiletpaper , in Loading like a 90's dell computer

OP has a slow cache, might need to upgrade hardware

JackbyDev ,

Race condition.

lseif , in love eating bread ties and bread tags

Ha, a Ha, ha A ah Ha Ha-ha! :)

PP_BOY_ ,
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Feel good

Lost_My_Mind ,

…joker?

downpunxx ,

,,,,,,,,,, smoker

lseif ,

-------- midnight toker ?

darcy OP ,
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TERRIBLE ADDITION TO THIS POST.

LyD , in Boop

I doubt he trained for that long if he left the chinstrap unbuckled

MonkderVierte ,

Training duration increases chinstrab buckleness, got it.

ChicoSuave , in Mario for president

The Mario Party is a monarchist platform. Don’t be fooled by the slick marketing and colorful characters; you go in to be a toad and end up a goomba.

Lost_My_Mind , in Mario for president

I don’t know WHAT you’re talking about! Yes, the democratic party and the republican party both yell and scream…but there is a lot of screaming with Mario Party too!

“WHAT DO YOU MEAN I LOST MY STAR TO MOTHER FUCKING DONKEY KONG???!!! I WAS JUST SITTING HERE, AND PEACH LANDS ON CHANCE TIME, AND NOW I’M OUT A STAR??? THATS BULLSHIT!!!”

And then you stab your friend in the knee with a fork.

Mario Party gets violent when you drink. Best to stick to Mario Kart. Nobody ever got hurt drinking and driving.

BudgetBandit ,

Dude of mine and I are some hard video game masochists and love hard games. We play Mario party superstars as 5 people, him and I sharing a pair of joy cons. And we get slightly drunj before we start, like a Maß for the both of us, the we proceed to drink while playing.

This made us realize: most of the games are playable with either the left or the right hand

We spend 90% of those games where we both have control over the character just laughing

boredtortoise ,

Tax the rich with blue shells

dumbass , in Checkmate, Atheists
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He stepped down on national ice cream day…

Jackcooper ,

Aw man he loves that stuff almost as much as he loves exposed shoulders

Brickhead92 ,

Someone close to him: You’re not getting ice-cream unless you drop out of the presidential candidacy!

Biden: Done… Now where’s my ice-cream?

He’s only human, anyone would do the same.

MrJameGumb , in love eating bread ties and bread tags
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I’m white and it’s never occured to me to put any bread ties on any windowsills… Have I been missing out? Does that accomplish some sort of goal? 🧐

darcy OP ,
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yes if your goal is to amass bread ties on your windowsill ;-)

MrJameGumb ,
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But why? I usually throw them away. Or I put them in the junk drawer for a few years in case I find another use for them and THEN throw them away when I clean out the junk drawer… Do they have some kind of hidden potential I’m not aware of? Does leaving them on a windowsill somehow change their properties?

shalafi ,

No lie, mine always end up there if they don’t get trashed immediately.

adespoton , in We love our new Democratic Nominee, Don't We Folks?

Great… Trump endorses Harris too! Maybe he can get the MAGA crowd to vote for her as well….

ouRKaoS ,

Too bad he can’t vote for her, being a felon…

TheRaven , in Checkmate, Atheists
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Ghostalmedia , in We love our new Democratic Nominee, Don't We Folks?
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Trump also donated $1000 to Biden

Mouselemming , in Checkmate, Atheists

It’s Sunday. Joe couldn’t go to church because COVID, so God made a house call.

Drusas , in love eating bread ties and bread tags

I have never seen anybody do that. All white people know that bread ties are cat toys.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Maybe the cats are the ones putting them on the window sill?

SolarMonkey ,

Those and milk bottle rings.

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