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Kiky , in The more they censor, bigger it gets
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Ok but… Why the are people criticizing the reddit CEO on reddit and thereby USING REDDIT? There is no need to spread that he’s shit anymore at this point for everyone to see. Everyone knows by now. If people don’t approve of his ways, they need to boycott his platform. But if they keep participating on r/place, they are literally supporting him by using his platform?!

anolemmi ,
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This is not a hot take, people are aware of the dissonance of using Reddit to complain about Reddit. But many folks are still upset but not upset enough to leave, or would like to leave but aren’t ready for places like Lemmy yet. It still needs work and polish before the average Joe will be comfortable here.

So in the meantime I say go for it, having fuck spez be one of the main focal points of the whole canvas is incredible and sends a message. Yea most folks have heard about it by now but might be surprised users are still upset, or never really understood what the big deal was before but maybe they look into it now. Every bit of negative sentiment on Reddit about Reddit will slowly push users away. This is more than a bit of negative sentiment.

Diprount_Tomato ,
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Yeah, we need to make it more similar to Reddit with things like flairs and a more intuitive browsing system

Shippuu ,

I’d also like to add that this might be good publicity (or negative for Reddit). r/place gets mentioned in the news too.

Piers ,

Iirc Forbes ran an article about it.

Kiky ,
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Thank you, now it actually makes more sense to me!

bobs_monkey ,

There are still people OOTL on reddit, and there are also people who have no clue who u/spez is. Until people start calling out Steve Huffman by name for being a greedy pig boy, it won’t have much mainstream effect. A significant chunk of reddit’s userbase is relatively young (last 5 years or so) and have very little in the way of context.

Sc00ter ,

Sabotaging the quality of reddit also hurts spez. Advertisers have been pulling out, ipo valuation is going down. If the super users make it a place people don’t want to go, they will stop going, and it will get worse. If they make life hard for the mods, some of them will say “fuck it.” And stop being mods because they will realize it’s not worth it.

It’s not just about raising awareness

Kiky ,
@Kiky@feddit.de avatar

You are right, I haven’t thought about it that way

Feathercrown ,
Kiky ,
@Kiky@feddit.de avatar

No. It’s pretty easy to not participate in r/place.

Ad4mWayn3 ,

Can’t talk for everyone, but for the case of rplace, I’d say propaganda.

I know of people who still use reddit as they always do, and its likely because they don’t know reddit’s latest (and terrible) corporate decisions, so using rplace to spread a message that tells people something is wrong with reddit is the first step for these people to find the right path: leaving reddit.

over_clox ,

Hey, what better way to convey how people feel about Spez than to collaborate in such large numbers on his own platform to draw it out pixel for pixel…

r/place isn’t gonna last much longer either, I wouldn’t be surprised if many of the people that collaborated on the Fuck Spez messages end up ditching Reddit more or less altogether after r/place is over.

Honestly I can’t wait to see the final time lapse.

PaintedSnail , (edited )

Roughly speaking, there are three different ways people handle when something they enjoy is changed in a way they don’t enjoy.

The first simply cut their losses and move on, abandoning the thing. Nothing wrong with that. Things change and it’s okay to move on to something else. Companies that are causing harm to their user base should suffer the consequences of their decisions. Do this too much, though, and you may find you abandon your loves too easily.

The second just accept and bear it. Arguably nothing wrong with that as long as you still enjoy it. Just be careful that apathy is not taken for permission for further change.

The third will attempt to fight back in an attempt to preserve it. These are the type who still use Reddit even though they know it’s broken. They do not abandon it because to do so is to lose it entirely. They are trying to work within the system to change the system. Nothing wrong with that either, as long as you know when the battle is lost. They obviously don’t believe it has been lost yet.

psud , (edited ) in Say it ain’t so

I’m fat by nature (and environment) so I have examined and tried many diets, and I think I can only say for sure a few thing about healthiness of diets:

  • if you eat carbs, fats beyond what is necessary to eat, are unhealthy
  • If you don’t eat carbs you need to eat fats, some fats are better than others
  • If you don’t eat carbs and you don’t eat fats you starve - to thin then to death
  • Sugar is unhealthy and wrecks your teeth
  • Highly processed foods are not healthy
Diprount_Tomato ,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

So it’s as easy as eating a balanced diet?

EncryptKeeper ,

If it fits your macros bro

psud , (edited )

Indeed, though it’s hard to get fatter on fat in absence of carbs or dairy

psud , (edited )

Becoming less fat? It’s hard.

I cannot do it eating a low fat diet. I find portion control impossible, I get very hungry when I eat carbs

The only success I have had has been on very low carb diets, but they are hard to stick to long term. I found the only one I can do easily is “zero carb”

Ed. It’s unbalanced - choose either:

  • Carbs, protein & minimal high quality fats; or
  • Fats, protein & minimal to zero carbs

If you eat balanced fat, carbs, protein then you will not be healthy

doggle ,

What about protein? There’s a whole other macro you can use to make up for calories with if you cut out carbs. Eating near exclusively protein probably isn’t good for you, but you won’t starve. From what I’ve seen there can even be a lot of advantages to eating a little more protein, especially if you’re doing some strength training.

psud , (edited )

Protein is vital and is available on any kind of diet. Many vegetables, all meats, all fungi

Humans can either live on carbs or live on fats, in both cases we must also eat protein

Humans cannot (though cats can) live on protein, look up rabbit starvation. You will starve if you eat only protein, where eating only fat or only glucose will kill you much more slowly with vitamin deficiencies

visnae , (edited )

On the sugar note: Meat you buy in the store (for instance bacon) often have sugar additives. Better to visit the butcher.

psud ,

Butchers won’t save you from sugar in bacon, many bacon brine recipes call for sugar, but a butcher will be able to tell you what the bacon was pickled in

Raw, unprocessed meat (steak, chops, chicken) is generally fine

visnae ,

Ah didn’t know that, thank you. I’ve just started to read the ingredients list on most of the products I buy from the store and realised I can’t even buy ham or many other kinds of meat, because of the sugar additives that they syringe into it.

psud ,

additives that they syringe into it.

It’s usually only water they syringe into meat - so they can sell a 1.5kg leg of lamb as a 1.7kg ;) but only if your food supply is really badly regulated

The sugar in bacon is from the brine it is soaked in; in ham it’s from the glaze it was coated in before it was sliced - the sugar on sliced ham is all in the edge

Salami might have sugar to promote fermentation

visnae ,

Glazed sliced ham? No I’m talking a bout a big piece of meat without glace. I’m not in the states though so might be different there.

psud ,

Sliced ham is cut from the big piece. And you’re right, aside from Christmas, ham isn’t usually glazed. I guess there’s sugar in the pot when the ham is cooked, so I think my advice is right - the sugar will not have penetrated far

I guess I haven’t thought much about sugar in smallgoods, as it was within the 20g allowance on keto (even with a bowl of salad) and now I’m on “zero carb” I don’t bother with ham because it doesn’t have enough fat

I’m also not in the states, g’day from Australia

Lenins2ndCat , in I took a look into the future
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Welcome to XXX X. Nsfw Twitter.

darcy , in look how they did ma boy
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carl marks pissing and crying right now

InternetTubes , in grrr

I don’t defend multibillion dollar companies, but I don’t let that stop me from pointing out bad criticism.

HelloHotel ,
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Okay… being a place of discord, its good to fix off the rails thinking.

just do so in earnist or we will revoke your lisense, /s

Eduard Bernstein

RatoGBM , in I took a look into the future

Where is the Xign out button?

darcy , (edited ) in Say it ain’t so
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calling meat, cheese, and bread healthy

wow that food pyramid propaganda really did a number on you all didnt it.

Edit: im talking about the meat and dairy industies lobbying too, not just bread

abraxas , (edited )

It seems odd putting meat in the same category as bread.

In terms of pure health, there’s not much out there better than most meats. Yes, beef is a bit lower than pork and chicken, but properly portioned (looking at most of us Americans) it has very few downsides.

Bread on the other hand can be one of the worst foods we can eat. Of course, it is still all about moderation.

EDIT: Why the reddit-like downvotes folks? There’s really no cohesive argument that puts meat below bread healthwise in most situations. If you want to avoid meat, avoid meat. If you want to be morally opposed to anyone eating meat, so be it. Facts are still facts and misinformation isn’t the right way to fight that battle.

gummybootpiloot ,

Bread can be healthy, just make sure it’s wholegrain. Read meat is acosiates with bad health outcomes..

But yeah nobody is going to put a wholegrain bun on their hamburger.

abraxas ,

Yes, bread can be healthy. The right one in moderation. The same as red meat (per your reference), actually :).

But 80/20 extra-fattened with liver for a delicious burger? Definitely not healthy (but like a candy bar, it’s ok to have one every months or two)

swordsmanluke ,

The doctor in your link says processed meat is likely bad all around, presumably due to additives, but that red meat in lower amounts (specifically, he says “2-3 times a week” and to use red meat as a side, instead of a main) is actually associated with lower health risks.

willeypete23 ,

Your “source” is one doctor speaking out against and entire study where the researchers found “low” evidence that either red meat or processed meat is harmful. That’s not low health risks, or low percentage of affected individuals, but low evidence that here are any risks at all.

darcy ,
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But yeah nobody is going to put a wholegrain bun on their hamburger.

yeah people do its not uncommon here

Daisyifyoudo ,

But yeah nobody is going to put a wholegrain bun on their hamburger.

Uhh. Why not? Whole Grain comes in all shapes and sizes now. Hell, most higher end restaurants use whole grain buns. Not sure why you would conclude that?

gummybootpiloot ,

This makes me think you’ve never had a 100% wholegrain bread

Daisyifyoudo ,

Do you live somewhere in the world where it’s hard to get? I rarely eat bread, but when I do buy from the store it’s always 100% wholegrain. I just bought some a few weeks ago and there were plenty of different choices on the shelf.

gummybootpiloot ,

No wholegrain is easy to get. Just nog as burger buns in a restaurant. I wasn’t talking about bread in a supermarket

RobbieGM ,

Bread can be one of the worst foods we can eat

Why?

abraxas ,

I said it elsewhere. Basically, it combines low nutritional value with a high density pack of too-easily-digested carbs.

The effect is that it increases blood sugar and hunger, which very easily leads to higher weight. Higher weight alone is not immediately unhealthy, but it can get unhealthy pretty fast if you get heavier and heavier.

And the only objection is “well, better than sugar, so it’s not THAT bad”… But we have a lot of added sugar in bread here in the US.

Diprount_Tomato ,
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Well, they sure have necessary nutrients

darcy ,
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i love the greatest source of carcinogens in an average diet 🤤🤤

Diprount_Tomato ,
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Everything is a fucking carcinogen, get over it and eat an actually balanced diet with exercise

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

nah meat and dairy is kinda gross

BuboScandiacus ,
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Meat ?

JH6 , in Say it ain’t so

Step one is to ask yourself what you think healthy means. Generally it’s used as a catch-all by people to justify whatever shitty diet they have.

Pengui , in grrr

Whenever i see posts like these that mock political dissidents, I can’t help but wonder if there’s some underlying low self-esteem in the people who post it. If your political views are so much better than everyone else’s, can’t you just argue for that ideology instead of making a fool of other people for believing something else? This is the kind of toxic behavior that has resulted in our society being split and hateful and for that reason I had to downvote.

mimichuu_ ,

Not every ideology is equally deserving of respect.

Napain OP ,

if good arguments would find the same kind of traction on social media as memes do i would be happy to, honestly

MelonTheMan ,
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Agree with you but just want to share the definition of memes with you. Memes can be discussion points, ideas, formats, image templates, or any other vector for transporting an idea.

A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme

Image memes are just extremely easy to digest, and tend to be more enjoyable, so they’re a great method for sharing ideas.

CurlyMoustache ,
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It’s just humour. Deal with it, snowflake 😎

Shardikprime ,

Bro I like snowflakes

mos_6510 , in pepperidge farms remembers left beef

Reminds me of the time when I ordered a BLT at Subways. I didn’t add lettuce and tomato during toppings selection assuming it already would be included. I ended up with a bacon mayo sub

MonkderZweite , in The more they censor, bigger it gets

So, uh, reddit added OCR with banned words but allows flags, or what’s going on?

another_lemming ,

Country flags are the most popular thing in r/place, and country subs are big too. They can share a little of their clicks and reddit would think before pissing them off and erasing them. People kinda dislike when you erase the symbol of their country. It can also go into news.

x4740N ,
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Just use fonts that OCR can’t read

bernieecclestoned , in look how they did ma boy

Gods are bullshit anyway.

hungryphrog , in I did my own research

What about watching your own shitty Youtube video?

Umbra , in car go brrr

An alcoholic I know said: "I drive better when drunk"

ericisshort , in Twouble with Twitter (an old sketch from the CurrentTV animated series “SuperNews”)

Wow, I haven’t thought about CurrentTV in sooo long.

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