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sxan ,
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Rather than amend my older comment:

The judge would never say that, anyway. Nearly everyone has a right to represent themselves, although she might have been implying that SovCit was not mentally competent enough to be allowed to do so.

Steve ,

Sounds like they refused to acknowledge being the person (human? Organ sack?) named on the ticket.

BeefPiano ,

Bless your heart

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

The amount of wishful thinking is honestly surprising to me, even though my expectations about these folks is already pretty low. It’s just… are all of the brain cells focused on keeping them breathing?

I totally get it. Nobody wants to pay taxes, or fees, and it’s getting harder for people to afford food much less car insurance, registration, emissions inspections, yadda yadda. The SovCit thing must be appealing. But, still, interpreting that situation like that? It seems like a new level of dumb.

imPastaSyndrome ,

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FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, the case is dismissed. Go ahead and leave the country. Nothing could possibly happen at the airport.

monkeyslikebananas2 ,

Checkmate, Judge!

neidu2 ,

No, it means you’re a dumbass, and most likely the case will result in a default judgement, with or without you.

Chocrates ,

Or a bench warrant 🤣

MrJameGumb ,
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I’d love to hear the conversation that was had where this idiot somehow convinced someone to let him represent them in court lol

setsneedtofeed , (edited )
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You seem unfamiliar with this circus.

This person was being the authorized representative of themselves. Sovcits, for a variety of reasonings, often refuse to admit that they are the legal person who is being charged. They often make a convoluted distinction between the actual person and the legal person, so they show up as the actual person to “settle the matters” of the legal person.

You can’t be an authorized representative of somebody else for a crime/infraction unless you are a lawyer anywhere I know of in the U.S. A person representing is either a lawyer or self-represented. You can’t just pick some rando as your champion to show up in your place. Judges have smacked Sovcits legally in various ways for this stunt.

MrJameGumb ,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like the sort of thing that would get them a contempt of court charge on top of whatever else they did lol

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

The most entertaining result is them stubbornly refusing to admit that they are “Name” and the judge issuing a warrant for failing to appear because the named defendant didn’t show up to court.

Usually at that point they crack, but I’ve seen one zoom court where the judge just ends the hearing with the warrant issued.

VindictiveJudge ,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

Part of it is that they think Name and NAME are legally distinct entities. Reminds me of this B5 scene. m.youtube.com/watch?v=1j-76eLz1hc

Serinus ,

It’s interesting how sovcits have so recently and dramatically changed.

There have always been a few people who thought they could somehow carve out their own territory in the middle of the United States, or that for some reason the laws wouldn’t apply to them. There have been jokes about them on the Simpsons and elsewhere.

But it was all individual. It wasn’t this Q-Anon like conformity, and, while always ridiculous, not quite this delusional. This new sovcit thing is different and propaganda/single large cult fueled.

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