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CptEnder ,

You return your cart because it’s the right thing to do

I return my cart because it gives me a sense of superiority

We are not the same

BackOnMyBS ,
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place avatar

I think it’s similar to weights in a gym. Leaving them on the barbell is a jerk move. Returning them to their correct staging location is the ethically correct thing to do. Whenever I see them left on the barbell, I imagine a fantasy where the person has a team of horn players follow them around and play for them to announce their superiority.

_lilith ,
@_lilith@lemmy.world avatar

hmm no this seems wrong. If the parking lot is a mile long and there are no cart returns it makes me a bad person if I rack the carts in a line with all the others in the boonies? If you are getting abandoned carts its probably because you don’t have enough cart returns, not because people are bad

Rhaedas ,

If you're consolidating abandoned carts in the fringes, that makes you just as good, since you are creating a new cart return area that others might also contribute to. But when there are multiple cart returns that are partially used and still carts left on the way in various places in spaces, on the curb, and even right near the entry, those people are at a minimum lazy. My example is a Walmart that never fails this, so perhaps that skews things a bit.

It's the ones left almost at the store that get me...you could have gone a bit farther. Why did you stop?

CarbonatedPastaSauce ,

I’ve seen abandoned carts within 10 feet of the cart return. Numerous times. I’ve seen people leave their cart behind the parked car next to them and drive off. Some people are animals.

desktop_user ,

counter argument: it is someone else’s job to put the cart away.

CarbonatedPastaSauce ,

It is someone’s job to collect them from the cart return, not the entire parking lot.

Uncorralled carts cause damage to other cars.

You are an inconsiderate savage.

recently_Coco ,
@recently_Coco@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Another possibility is that people that don’t return the cart may not be having their needs met. A person who is tired after walking across the hot parking lot may not return it out of a desire to maintain a modicum of health. Or, perhaps, they may not think about it because their cognition is temporarily hindered by hunger, exhaustion, or some other carnal need.

On Maslow’s hierarchy, I’d say if a person meets all of their physiological and safety needs they are more likely to return the cart than those who do not.

Feathercrown ,

I think this matches the “no better than an animal” from the OP pretty well

SayJess ,
@SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Don’t be a lazybones folks!

MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown ,

Or have a disability!

GBU_28 ,

If a disabled person used a cart all through the store, and to their car, their disability should therefore not impede their ability to return the cart.

If someone is using the mobility scooter, that’s a different story.

wheeldawg ,

If you need to use the scooter, then you’re not using a cart. You just have to be able to hobble between the store itself and your car. And sometimes you can hand it to someone to drive back to the store.

As someone who has recently needed it for several very different temporary medical issues in the past 4 or so years (better now tho- it’s been a very weird time for me lol), I’ve seen that a lot of randos in the parking lot will even enjoy riding it back for you lol. Kids love it.

TheSalarian ,

I am pro-“cart abandoners deserve the gulag”, but we’ve also gotta recognize that some disabled people may need the cart for balance, and if they return it, they now have to walk across the parking lot without that crutch. Maybe the right answer is to put cart returns next to disabled spots?

GBU_28 , (edited )

I think it’s fair to assume the target of this meme is not that scenario.

Edit also generally agree

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

There should be a requirement for cart return spots next to the handicap parking. In places where there is a return 10 feet from the spots I still see a ton of carts in the parking spots.

I get that it can be hard, but it seems way too frequent that they could do the whole store but just couldn’t make that last 10 feet. Like sure, occasionally that is inderstandable.

So I will judge them while also grabbing the cart and either using it or putting it away because that is the right thing to do.

anothercatgirl ,

Same with the nearest bus stops to the grocery store. I feel like it’s unappealing to be tripping over shopping carts in the bus shelter.

CarbonatedPastaSauce ,

The disability here is almost always selfishness or lack of consideration for their fellow man.

Nobody is judging based on carts left by handicapped spaces.

SmoothLiquidation ,

I would add scooping dog shit is another test. There are people out there who will bag the shit and then leave the bag on the ground for the poop to steam in for a few days before they put another bag right next to it to keep it company.

ArbitraryValue ,

Why do people do that? I mean, if they intend to abandon the dog poop, why would they bag it first?

GBU_28 ,

Not defending this, but some people intend to pick up the bag on their return, presumably as they are headed away from a trashcan and will return to one on the way back. They don’t want to carry it the whole time.

They should just carry it the whole time, or return to the start then and there to drop it

thesystemisdown ,

Sometimes people walking dogs plan on walking past the same spot on the return trip, so they leave the bag. Sometimes they forget to pick it back up, or forget that they dropped it there and take a different route home. Sometimes bag number two is the next day, or some other person’s bag. Generally, if someone’s going to pull a shit and split, they’re not bagging.

Rhaedas ,

Which is worse, the ones that leave a bag (perhaps unintentionally) or the ones that just don't bother with the responsibility at all? When I had a dog I not only would clean up behind him, I would leave the bag untied until the end to capture what I could of the inevitable left piles I would run across. I'm sure cart return, dog poop, fast food containers, and the old cigarette butts are all under some human psychology grouping of ego superiority.

anothercatgirl ,

Environmentally, the bag actually prevents biodegradation. If you don’t pick up your dog poo in the wilderness and not where people step, some shit-eating insect (like roley-poley or cockroach or a worm) will eat it all up within a week.

Frog ,

No one will punish you for not returning the shopping cart, no one will fine you or kill you for not returning the shopping cart, you gain nothing by returning the shopping cart.

Cart Narcs. Those guys are fucking crazy. They were doing their thing in Texas. I’ve read stories of idiots pulling out guns for less.

floofloof ,

If you scatter carts in random places the supermarket has to employ someone to collect them. So you are a job creator^TM^. This is why I never return my cart, and also why I jump on cartons of milk in the dairy aisle and take a dump in the broccoli.

bstix ,

That explains Elon Musk. He’s a job creator, right? Destroyer of everything.

Bricriu , (edited )
@Bricriu@lemmy.world avatar

Jean-Baptiste

Emmanuel

Zorg

OmegaMouse ,
@OmegaMouse@pawb.social avatar

Interesting idea… Is human morality (in situations where no punishment exists) a result of the societies we live in and our societal expectations, our upbringing, or is there some inherent morality (guilt from doing something bad, or satisfaction from doing the right thing) within most people?

Whilst I do live somewhere that has trolleys with coins, sometimes you get one that is damaged and doesn’t require a coin. Yet I still return those ones, because why wouldn’t I? It only takes a minute.

TheImpressiveX ,
@TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml avatar

To shop is human. To return is divine.

IrateAnteater ,

No one will punish you for not returning the cart

My opinion on this is reason number 8735 why I will never, and should never, be in charge of a country.

GroundedGator ,

I’d vote for you.

TranscendentalEmpire , (edited )

I too have thousands of reasons why I shouldn’t be in charge of a country, however I do have one good pitch.

My appointment to dictatorship would be guided solely by autism. I guarantee my powers will only be focused upon my two fixations that deal with the general public, trains and healthcare.

If made supreme leader I will not only make the trains run on time, there will be more trains, more hospitals, we would even have trains that can take you to your job at the hospital. I would shape the perfect world for me, and vicariously a more efficient and safer world for you.

Demand Me for dictator 2024

toiletobserver ,

Seems legit

ASDraptor ,

Flawed. Here, you must insert a coin (or if you have it, a token with the shape of the coin) that will only be returned after you put the cart in the correct place.

So you actually lose something if you don’t return the cart.

grue ,

That doesn’t mean the concept is flawed; it just means those businesses were smart enough to put in countermeasures against bad people.

shalafi ,

They do this so they don’t have to pay staff to return carts, one of many reasons Aldi is so cheap.

bstix ,

It also means that the people who do leave the shopping cart in places without the deposit are the kind of cheapskates who can be bought for a euro. They’re only neutral evil.

True chaotic evil assholes would pay the deposit on several carts only to leave them.

espentan ,

Mhm. That said, only a few places around where I live have “coin operated” carts. I guess the places that do have them got tired of the selfish, inconsiderate sobs who didn’t return the carts.

To me it feels so utterly strange to just dump a cart in the middle of a parking lot and, seemingly, think nothing of it.

li10 ,

That’s common in England, but a lot of larger shops don’t bother with that system.

Hjalamanger ,
@Hjalamanger@feddit.nu avatar

It’s the opposite here in Sweden, in some larger supermarkets you did need a coin but in no smaller shops

Anyways that’s all gone now since no one carries coins anymore

andrew_bidlaw , (edited )
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

Seeing guides and fake coins to trick it was pretty depressing.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

That sounds like more work than just putting the cart back…

andrew_bidlaw ,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yep. I kinda dislike the idea of paid carts and am for pirating… But there it’s paying or putting extra effort to make other people deal with your cart.

cmder ,

Where I shop there is the token system but you just have to ask the security agent to get a free token. So there is no need to return your cart because you can get a free token each time you got to the store.

Maestro ,

I have seen supermarkets with even stricter systems. I have seen carts with automated brakes/clamps. If you try to leave the supermarket with the cart, the wheels block. So you are forced to put your groceries in bags and carry the bags to the car.

GroundedGator ,

In the US Aldi requires a quarter. Depending on the area, there are absolutely people who will give up their 25 cents to not walk their lazy ass to return the cart.

Florida is full of inconsiderate selfish assholes.

HairyHarry ,

Flawed. Here, you must insert a coin (or if you have it, a token with the shape of the coin) that will only be returned after you put the cart in the correct place.

I present you mankinds greatest invention: https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/95046443-d1f4-4e55-ab4f-6aa84c7e69bb.jpeg

Banichan ,
@Banichan@dormi.zone avatar

What, you gonna knock back some brews?

HairyHarry ,

In case you weren’t joking:

Look at the bottom part of it. You can insert it into the coin “slot” to unlock the cart and pull it out right after.

No more losing a tiny little plastic chip or searching for the right coin - especially if you prefer to pay without cash.

(Also, I do return my carts.)

Banichan ,
@Banichan@dormi.zone avatar

We don’t do that here, that’s mall-level bullshit.

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