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Stern ,
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start rolling down hill

going slow

go faster

hmm

Kingsjack123 ,

So? the fact the reasoning flows is not countered by an appeal to Authority.

Ilovethebomb ,

Everything we do is built on top of something else. We needed to build a society capable of supporting industry and learning, then written language, mathematics etc.

Once you have the building blocks of society, everything else comes much faster.

pixxelkick ,

Exponential growth, thats about all there is to it. Advancing from clacking rocks to hunting deer is actually already a huge advancement.

Those 190k years in caves however werent non-advancing. A lot of advancements happened over those years.

Fires, wheels, knot tying, ceramics, pottery, grains, hunting, animal husbandry, medicine, language, art, music, rope…

Also, 10k years is after we gained writing of various forms to store information.

Keep in mind thats at the stage of shit like egypt, the great pyramids, etc. We were waaaaay beyond “cavemen” at that point. We already had trade routes, cities, nations, countless languages, doctors, etc.

The big issue was before that point, all our forms of storing information were just not able to stand the test of time very well, is all. We stopped being “cavemen” way before that mark though.

MrJameGumb ,
@MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

Hey man, there are plenty of animals on this planet that have been around longer than human beings, and I don’t see any of them writing an award winning Netflix limited series…

alcoholicorn ,

Crop domestication

j4k3 ,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

It’s mostly population density and specialization. You don’t have time to think when you’re doing everything yourself. The biggest advances come when we’re able to fund the best and brightest to basically do nothing but think.

After getting into writing some hard science fiction futurism, I find it much more interesting that we have so very little perspective about where we exist within the present. Our technology is crap, we’re poor as fuck, there is enormous wealth that dwarfs all the wealth on Earth and a whole lot of it is quite accessible if we tried, while we haven’t even scratched the surface of the technology available within biology. Our medicine and healthcare practices are primarily based on anecdotal or correlative nonsense, low sigma test results, and cherry picked terrible science. Many of us here, myself included, are outliers that the present healthcare system fails to help. We have it better than some people in history, but worse than others. It feels like our culture has this mindset like we are the end game; no vision of the future. The only stories told are those of dystopianism. We should change that.

RootBeerGuy ,
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Yes, people forget that a bit over a hundred years ago, there were less than a billion people on the planet.

Gradually_Adjusting ,
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When I think about how long it took me to realize that you’re supposed to pour tetra packs with the spout on top, I find no fault in pre modern man

TootSweet ,

Civilization is anomalous. Yes.

SGforce ,

Yeah well. We kind of had to deal with bears the size of a fucking house for a while. At least until we wiped out their main food source. And rival hominids with at least spears.

Glowstick ,

The answer is probably language. Before advanced language was developed, there wasn’t a good way to pass along any knowledge that was gained by an individual.

PunnyName ,

And storage / dissemination of that language.

muntedcrocodile ,
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Thats why the fediverse is the next step in evolution.

PrivateNoob ,

Brainrotmaxxing

sinkingship ,

I thought it was because proper farming.

Like being able to support larger groups of people, where individuals could specialize in other things than hunting, gathering and whatever else was keeping the early humans busy.

On the other hand I’ve heard we’ve been possibly farming long before 10,000 BCE.

A_Union_of_Kobolds ,

Yes there’s only one answer to how our species developed space flight

Hegar ,
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Language is much older than just 10k years. There's a few reasons to think that language might have developed with erectus, which could make language 10x older than the 'human specie', according to anon.

Glowstick ,

That’s why i said advanced language. Lots of animals have language. Crows have language

superkret ,

The answer is agriculture, which lowered the standard of living and health of the individual, but sustained more people, allowed for specialization, permanent settlement and building large structures.

loaExMachina ,

Language probably predates Homo Sapiens as our close relatives such as Homo Neandertalensis and Homo Denisova also had adaptations for articulated speech.

www.nature.com/articles/s41559-021-01391-6

Beside, populations today that have never had agriculture or traits we associate with civilization and who live secluded, like the North Sentinelese, all have languages.

I think it’s best explained by environmental factors, rather than something interior to humanity. After all, most of human’s existence was during the Pleistocene, but all recorded history is within the Holocene (except now we’re entering the Anthropocene). Many modern studies account for the climate shifts to explain the development of agriculture:

www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.1113931109

journals.sagepub.com/doi/…/0959683611409775

Most traits we associate with civilization are linked to agriculture and sedentary.

praise_idleness ,

about 70 years after human had its first flight, we stepped on the moon.

Deme ,
  • first powered flight. The first humans flew in 1783 on a hot air balloon.
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