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n0m4n ,

I believe in truth and that facts do matter. I also teach young people. Being a wage earner was not a bad thing, but I yearn for the freedom to live an easier life, eventually. I want that for everyone. False beliefs are traps that hold people back from being their best selves. Carry flat-earth beliefs as a core foundation and look at what differences it would make. Geostationary satellites, and all the tech jobs that go with servicing that sector, just disappeared. Ditto solar. Travel to distant places, and time zones, becomes an insolvable problem. Your co-worker is holding his life back by believing in medieval superstitions.

It is a kindness to challenge people to find what is true.

Bertuccio , (edited )

I agree with all this but want to gripe about the misconception that flat Earth is medieval.

People have known Earth is round since at least 350 BC when Aristotle wrote On the Heavens. And he didn’t come up with it there, he was explaining how others knew it.

In medieval times they had not lost this knowledge and it was still widely understood that Earth is round. Flat Earth has been a fringe lunacy for thousands of years. In the 1800s it became popular for religious reasons and most flat Earthers today are actually creationists trying to dress up their beliefs as science.

Wahots ,
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This happened to me, except it was an antivaxxer coworker, and he gave me his preventable disease right before I was supposed to be going on an international ski trip with friends for my birthday. I wanted to murder him :)

fukurthumz420 ,

so this is where we’re at? fuck it? let them believe what they want? yeah, we’re fucked.

RandomGuy79 ,

Nah dude flat earthers actually show up to the polls, unlike anon. Gotta start showing up anon!

duderium2 ,

Haha, it’s so funny that this guy believes in ridiculous “science” like flat-earthism. Anyway, I’m going to wander crowded indoor areas without a mask during a pandemic, see ya!

Prunebutt , (edited )

At the wage-slave bit, I was hoping that anon would try to raise the coworker’s class-consciousness.

andrew_bidlaw ,
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In a sense, they are on the same side.

feedum_sneedson ,

It’s flat, we all are.

The_Terrible_Humbaba ,

Man, a lot of comments on here are giving me reddit debate lord vibes. People talking about “the truth matters”, but the way a lot of them are saying, it sounds like they just want to ego boost and dunk on/bully someone that they perceive as inferior; which I suppose could also be called “asserting intellectual superiority”.

Chances are that any argument you use on them is something they’ve already heard, and the more you push and demean them the more defensive they will probably get, and the harder it will be to convince them. And even if you did manage to pressure and shame them into believing the earth is round, that won’t suddenly make them good critical thinkers.

KevonLooney ,

The best way to convince these people of reality is to just say “You really believe that?” and “That sounds complicated” when they talk about it. Or you can laugh in a friendly way and say “Who told you that? They’re trying to trick you.”

These people respond to emotions, not facts. Just tell them someone is tricking them. They want to have friends and special knowledge.

some_guy ,

Given that stupid and uninformed (or misinformed) people get a vote on topics that affect me, no. I’m not gonna let slide that people believe outright provably wrong bullshit. It’s still a problem.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Political scientists get the same one vote as some Arkansas inbred

Nommer ,

There’s a lot more inbreds than scientists.

shimdidly ,

Fortunately those people got to see Biden-the-corpse for themselves in the last debate. I thought it was hopeless too, but the tide is turning. Hopefully we can blast through the deep-state/election fraud wall in November.

GreenSkree ,
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You want to put Trump back in…? Did you forget how he ran things 2016-2020, plus Jan 6th, a literal (but horribly executed) coup attempt?

Given the rulings from the recent rulings from the Supreme Court, Trump will be emboldened to do whatever he wants “with immunity”. I just can’t wrap my head around how anyone thinks this is a good idea.

shimdidly ,

You still believe the Jan 6 hoax?

GreenSkree ,
@GreenSkree@lemmy.world avatar

It’s clearly not a hoax.

ToucheGoodSir ,

Eh nah. Pointless debate and argument is kek

Corgana ,
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[lemmy disliked that]

boatsnhos931 ,

Anon has found the way of the masters

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