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Fuck Ubisoft.

I was pretty hyped for the new prince of persia game (the lost crown), but come to find out it’s only available on ubisoft’s proprietary launcher or epic games. Nope, and nope.

I just want to have it available on my usual storefront, Steam, but it’s been decidedly omitted. As a long time fan of the old games, this kind of hurts. Especially since many of the others -are- available on Steam.

I wonder if/when it will come out for Steam. These platform exclusivity deals need to die.

Edit: It’s also available on several consoles, my post was just from a pc gamer’s perspective.

KeenFlame ,

Was the same with every platform. Enshittification does not care about you

krolden ,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

What video game worth playing isn’t on a proprietary platform?

beneeney ,
@beneeney@lemm.ee avatar

I’ve been playing Starsector lately, that’s been pretty fun. Native Linux version too. No launcher required

only0218 ,

Software Inc has drm free options

Pyr_Pressure ,

I don’t know how they all manage to do it but EA, Ubisoft, and Rockstar are all my most hated companies of all time. They can make some good stuff, but I just absolutely hate how they all force people to jump through so much hoops just to play the games you pay them for.

They force you to make accounts with them and use their stupid launchers which never work properly and are just advertisements. There have been so many times I just wanted to play a game and then forgot my password to the account and got locked out or the launcher needed an update and I had to wait like 20 minutes.

Fuck all large game corporations.

Blackmist ,

I’m sure the last few Ubisoft games I got from Steam all installed UPlay before letting me run them anyway…

I’m not buying it because £45 is not a budget price for what feels like an indie game experience. I can wait for a sale on that, or more likely for it to go to PSN Extra. Still got plenty on my backlog.

ombremad ,

Me in 2004: Yeah I’ll never play Half-Life 2 because I hate that it comes with a mandatory useless piece of software. « Steam », what the hell is that? Full of DRMs, ugly, bugged to the core, eating up my precious RAM.

TwilightVulpine ,

There are valid concerns but there are benefits to using one game manager. There’s nothing good about having to install a bunch of them because every other game is in a different store.

It still would be best if games came DRM-free and all of them were compatible with whatever game manager someone chooses, but a lot of them aren’t, especially from big publishers.

ombremad ,

« There are benefits in using one game manager »

That is very true, and that’s why your game manager software shouldn’t be tied to any storefront or online service.

rabiddolphin ,
@rabiddolphin@lemmy.world avatar

Ubisoft makes games for 13 year old mountain dew addicts

Wav_function ,

Drink verification can to continue

Kedly ,

Cue the BUT STEAMS MONOPOLY idiots that completely ignore that Valve does nothing to stop anyone from competing with them, its just that anyone who has tried (outside GOG) has only produced anti consumer garbage

shapis ,

DRM is never good for the end user.

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

Who downvoted this?

trk ,
@trk@aussie.zone avatar

Ubisoft

Kedly ,

People who understand nuance exists in this world. Steams DRM is a VERY RARE check to the internet that you own the game, and its an OPTIONAL thing that developers can choose. EA UBI and EPIC’s versions of DRM is FAR WORSE, and if you really want to be extreme in your hatred of even reasonable level DRM, GOG exists

Kedly ,

Steams DRM is a VERY REASONABLE compromise between the interests of the devs and the consumer not wanting to be unfairly punished/annoyed. Steams DRM has literally NEVER caused me a headache aside from ONCE when steam was super new, its a non issue at this point

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    Kedly ,

    Yeah, and when I show up to work, regardless of how much I like what I do or my coworkers, I expect to be paid for it, your point is? They created a form of DRM that is the least obtrusive out there, made it optional, and they gave us one of the best store fronts out there as compensation for it. Again, Ubi, EA, and Epic’s DRM is FAR WORSE.

    ombremad ,

    I would agree with you, but Steam is also anti consumer garbage.

    rimjob_rainer ,

    Is this a troll post? Who cares in which store it’s available, just get a physical copy.

    Steam shills are really mind boggling.

    memo ,

    Most PC games nowadays do not have physical releases.

    GeneralVincent ,

    Is this a troll comment? You seemed to have missed the point of the post.

    PC gamers love PC gaming because it’s more open and you’re not locked into a certain ecosystem. Ubisoft artificially limiting their online release to two launchers (both known for being poor quality/buggy/feature lacking) is frustrating. Buying a hard copy might be possible, but Ubisoft did this on purpose to squeeze out a little extra profit. It shows they’re more than happy to put profits over customers. A customer being annoyed this release excludes their preferred launcher doesn’t make anyone a shill.

    Cybersteel ,
    @Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s just another software it’s not like you have to buy separate hardware for it.

    Eggyhead ,
    @Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

    I’ve generally stopped buying Ubisoft games not because I don’t want to, but because of an issue with my Connect account. I think I had let my PS3 set one up for me back in the AC2 days with an email that is now long defunct (I deleted it after an acquisition that put my privacy at risk).

    Now they want me to verify that email so much that some games have actually refused to let me play. I contacted their “support” to request the option to update my email, proving that the registered email is inactive and that I am in complete control of the linked PlayStation account, but they pretty much told me to kindly F off because they care too much about my privacy (lol).

    I like some Ubisoft games, I just don’t have confidence spending money on anything they publish when I don’t know which ones might preemptively lock me out.

    I figure I’ll just replace the account entirely at some point, but only when there’s a game I absolutely think would be worth the hassle. It just sucks to see my OG account end up trashed over such a dumb reason.

    reksas ,

    i stopped buying ubisoft games when i noticed every single one of them just follows the same path of mediocrity. There is some story, you follow it and along the way there is some busywork like collecting pointless things. If there ever are new ideas its like something wished with monkey’s paw and its ultimately just more same old shit in new wrappings.

    Eggyhead ,
    @Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

    Yeah I get it, but I don’t really mind that sort of stuff. You know what to do, it’s only mildly challenging, traversal is kind of fun. For me it’s relaxing.

    I can’t stand rogue-likes or arena style multiplayer games, so I never touch any of that.

    bluetardis ,

    Steam or GoG

    Anything else is too much pain.

    avater ,
    @avater@lemmy.world avatar

    You’re missing out on a fucking great game.

    viking ,
    @viking@infosec.pub avatar

    Not at all, the cracked copy from fitgirl works just fine, for those who can’t be bothered to succumb to ubisoft DRM.

    MaximilianKohler ,

    It’s definitely convenient to have everything in once place, and Steam has way more features, but it’s good to avoid Steam becoming too monopolistic. We saw recently how badly that can go with reddit.

    Despite the widespread worshipping of Steam and GabeN, I’ve had lots of issues with Steam and Valve over the years.

    Kedly ,

    Convince other companies to be not shit competition then. Steam has its near monopoly because its competition is dogshit

    ombremad ,

    No, Steam gained its near monopoly through anti-consumer practices as well: being mandatory for playing Valve games, even offline, as soon as 2004; being DRM-ridden; locking consumers out of their right to sell their games on second-hand market; still enforcing an old revenue share system that’s hurting devs; or putting micro-transactions everywhere with their collectible system that you can’t really disable at all. Just to name a few.

    Steam is not better than others. You’re just used to its flaws.

    TwilightVulpine , (edited )

    Steam is better than Epic at least. On top of all that, Epic makes itself mandatory for third-party games too.

    ombremad ,

    Epic is worse on some points listed here, better on others.

    TwilightVulpine ,

    The only one that goes on Epic’s favor is the cut, but frankly I think the whole “old revenue share system that’s hurting devs” is nothing more than Epic’s propaganda trying to get marketshare. 70/30 in favor of the devs while Steam handles hosting, community platform, multiplayer and modding tools, so forth, is neither unusual nor ripping anyone off, certainly not worth how maligned it was. I understand devs who prefer Epic’s cut, but I don’t think Epic is doing this out of fairness, nor that it can be relied on if they ever do gain ground.

    In the other aspects, it’s either equal or worse. It has as much DRM. Steam provides options for people to trade extra copies they didn’t activate but as far as I know other stores don’t. Neither allows people to trade away activated copies so that’s no points for anyone.

    I assume the microtransaction thing is talking about Steam Trading Cards and such, they are a bit of an iffy worthless addition to get people to waste money… but if the person is concerned over how much money the devs are getting, they do get a cut from every transaction, so under that perspective it should be counted as a plus. Which, by the way, is entirely up to the dev to add or not.

    ombremad ,

    I don’t really remember asking for your opinion on what a fair cut should be or what you think is a rip off. But the fact is that Steam takes more money from developers than other powerful competitors around (but 30% is barely enough to get servers running if I listen to you :D ). Okay. Sure. Yes. Right.

    The microtransactions are so awful in Steam that with proposed laws in some countries (like the Netherlands) it would make the whole thing illegal. Some of the worst Valve practices already are, like the loot boxes (they’re banned there).

    I don’t tell you that you should switch to something else than Steam. I don’t tell you that there’s a better choice (maybe GOG?). But what I’m saying is that Steam is indeed predatory and has been known for its anti-consumer practices, despite what some True Gamers™ seem to believe.

    TwilightVulpine ,

    I don’t really remember asking for your opinion on what a fair cut should be or what you think is a rip off.

    Too bad, this is a public forum. I don’t need to ask for your permission to say whatever I want. But if that’s how you are going to go about it, then feel free to think whatever you want on your corner.

    ombremad ,

    What I was saying: “your opinion doesn’t state a fact and some devs are indeed complaining about the 30% cut, maybe you should listen to them”

    What you heard: MUUUUH FREEDOM OF SPEEEECH

    Kedly , (edited )

    Yeah, Steam has DRM. Its the least annoying DRM that exists entirely because they gave us one of the best shop fronts that exists on PC as a trade off. And all companies have the right to sell their own games on whichever store they wish. Unlike Epic, Steam doesnt buy the exclusive rights to OTHER companies games, its just their own games. Your imaginary competition utopian dreamland doesnt exist, and you’re turning optional mole hills into mountains in order to pretend the best option we have is bad. If you don’t like collectible trading cards and the least annoying DRM ever created, go buy on GOG, EPIC UBI and EA all have FAR WORSE practices

    Cybersteel ,
    @Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

    They bought out the Devs of portal to make portal for steam

    Kedly ,

    Valve saw a demo and was impressed by it to the point they funded the full game, damn you guys get desperate to paint Valve in a bad light.

    TwilightVulpine ,

    Avoid it in favor of GoG. Ubisoft can’t be trusted with a single drop of goodwill. As we can see by how they inject their clunky garbage manager even in games they sell through other stores.

    ColdWater ,
    @ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

    Pirate it

    TwilightVulpine ,

    That’s probably the best option. Considering how a Ubisoft exec said we should be “comfortable not owning games”, I wouldn’t trust anything purchased from them anymore.

    hogmomma ,

    Genuine curiosity, why does it matter which platform it comes out on? Asking from a comlnsole-only point of view. I only game on PS5, so I’ll never get to play Xbox-only games. But if you’re on a PC, you can just get the other platform?

    wildcardology ,

    Too many launchers nowadays. It’s becoming like movies and tv streaming services.

    MaximilianKohler ,

    It’s inconvenient for sure, but monopolies are worse.

    Kedly ,

    Steams competition is worse than a steam monopoly. Im not giving Ubi or EA or Epic money for their shitty ass store fronts and anti consumer bullshit

    Pwnmode ,

    Those companies have changed their own launcher so many times as well that it doesn’t give me any hope that they will continue to exist or continue to let me borrow the games I bought from them.

    cottonmon ,
    @cottonmon@lemmy.world avatar

    From the last time I had to use EA’s launcher, I still couldn’t easily pick an install location. It’s incredible how shitty it is.

    TwilightVulpine ,

    People say that theoretically but not only Steam doesn’t stop anyone from selling in other places, it delivers better services than any other platform (except maybe GOG that has the big benefit of being DRM-free)

    The Steam “monopoly” ends up being less detrimental than the “competition” of locking each game to a different platform.

    wildginger ,

    If it was only on their launcher I wouldnt care. Its the little exclusivity deal on epic that annoys me.

    Its one thing to only sell your stuff on your own personal store. Thats fine, whatever. But to create fake exclusivity on pc? Nah fuck off dude, especially from ubisoft

    potustheplant ,

    It’s “exclusive” on a different free platform that doesn’t have any extra requirements. Sure, it’s worse than steam in some ways but choosing not to play the game because it’s only on Epic is pretty dumb, honestly.

    wildginger ,

    Choosing not to use epic branded things because of the companies pretty nasty decisions and financial backers is completely justified. The world is not always about getting things for free.

    potustheplant ,

    The game is not being given away for free…

    wildginger ,

    I didnt say it was

    ExtraMedicated ,

    I haven’t bought a Ubisoft game since Farcry 3 when a friend invited me to join an online game (which is something I very rarely had the opportunity to do) but the game wouldn’t let me play because I didn’t have that subcription thing they had. I tried using the free signup code that came with the game, but my brother already used it. So yeah, I have a personal grudge against that shitty company.

    Also, I hate what they did to the Rainbow Six franchise. The original games (by Red Storm, I think?) are what those games should’ve been.

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